World of Tanks (Vol 2)
Discussion
I haven't got any tier 10s, but am close to eliting the M103 and the T54 (I REALLY like the T54!). I'll probably go for the tier 10 American heavy and the Object 140, though it will take some serious saving!
I was going to get the T57 Heavy but I think I've changed my mind on it.
Had a few more games in the O-I last night (at one point two of us in the platoon both took O-Is). I can't believe it won't get nerfed at some point. It can bounce tier 8 heavies if angled right and I destroyed a British tier 6 heavy (he was putting shot after shot into my front and doing no damage whatsoever, which has really put me off going down the British heavy line).
As it stands the O-I is definitely a keeper. I've a feeling the tier 7 might be a bit of a let down after it.
I was going to get the T57 Heavy but I think I've changed my mind on it.
Had a few more games in the O-I last night (at one point two of us in the platoon both took O-Is). I can't believe it won't get nerfed at some point. It can bounce tier 8 heavies if angled right and I destroyed a British tier 6 heavy (he was putting shot after shot into my front and doing no damage whatsoever, which has really put me off going down the British heavy line).
As it stands the O-I is definitely a keeper. I've a feeling the tier 7 might be a bit of a let down after it.
I love my Mediums, from my M4 Sherman to the Chinese T7-8, i have the full line up of American Med's up to T10 (my first and only T10!)
They are jack of all trades which is good as you can pretty much do what you want in a game and they are quick enough to move about the ma.
I much prefer the support role in games where as if i play a heavy i could roll out and take some hits moving forward while the rest of my team watches me die!
They are jack of all trades which is good as you can pretty much do what you want in a game and they are quick enough to move about the ma.
I much prefer the support role in games where as if i play a heavy i could roll out and take some hits moving forward while the rest of my team watches me die!
I've been mostly playing heavies the last few sessions, and certainly it feels like you are expected to do all the work in them - like Martin just mentioned it seems like people just watch and wait for you to do as much as you can before then deciding to get involved. Unfortunately though this seemed to extend to other heavies too, top tier or otherwise, everyone's a voyeur at the moment 
Also pretty sure I set some record last night for the amount of times set on fire in a session. I've never, ever, burned so much. Two games in a row my 110 I managed to go on fire 2 times per battle (with a prem extinguisher to boot), then my other tanks also seemed to get in the mood and no matter what I played a fire was never far away ...FV215B with it's oh so smart front fuel tanks managed 3 fires in 2 games(!)
Also pretty sure I set some record last night for the amount of times set on fire in a session. I've never, ever, burned so much. Two games in a row my 110 I managed to go on fire 2 times per battle (with a prem extinguisher to boot), then my other tanks also seemed to get in the mood and no matter what I played a fire was never far away ...FV215B with it's oh so smart front fuel tanks managed 3 fires in 2 games(!)
BigMon said:
I haven't got any tier 10s, but am close to eliting the M103 and the T54 (I REALLY like the T54!). I'll probably go for the tier 10 American heavy and the Object 140, though it will take some serious saving!
I was going to get the T57 Heavy but I think I've changed my mind on it.
I have the T57 and I regret buying it. It's more T69 than T54E1. It can be powerful, sometimes, but it's often too slow to get into better positions to take advantage of the autoloader. I caught an E100 coming round a corner the other day. Before his turret was clear - Bang - tracked & damaged him X4. Didn't finish him, but took 1500 health off him without reply, enabling a team mate to kill him. 23 seconds later I'm reloaded again. Always go for a tracking shot with an autoloader. If you can get them to use their repair kit, then you have them at your mercy.I was going to get the T57 Heavy but I think I've changed my mind on it.
The T110E5 was given a totally unnecessary buff recently and is a great all round tank. I actually have a decent crew ready for it from playing the Winter game mode. I hate fighting them, I just can't pen them frontally even knowing where the so-called weak spots are.
I've been finding teams become so much more important as you climb the tiers, low down if your in a good tank and all your team mates are potatoes you can carry the game easily, one of the best games I had was me in a td and a guy in a medium being the last ones left, me being on virtually no health but between us managing to wipe out a virtually full team, him distracting and me closing them down, but now I'm up around tier 6 battles either go well where everyone takes up strong positions and wipes the enemy out on their approach or a small defensive team stay back at the base while a strong small strike team go in down a flank and wipe them out from behind, or unfortunately what often happens a load of morons charge in to battle (usually after spamming the chat while the game was loading) get wiped out after 30 seconds then it's the Devils own job to just stay alive long enough to start picking them off, especially if they have good scouts and arties on their side harrying you.
I'm also damn sure since I've put the scope on my Sherman and stug I've got a big
Neon sign above me that lights up and says shoot here!
I'm also damn sure since I've put the scope on my Sherman and stug I've got a big
Neon sign above me that lights up and says shoot here!
Apparently tomorrow Quickybaby is releasing a video of a new T8 Premium Sherman of which he has said he thinks at this point has the best T8 gun. I'd like to see how that looks and plays.
I tried so hard to love the Shermans I've played both the US and UK variants however I always found it lacking a little, I guess from the gun damage unless the derp gun is used. Maybe also the speed is no better than say the T1 Heavy. Maybe the T8 version will bring the tank alive.
I'm a few k exp from the Firefly of which I also want to give a go.
I tried so hard to love the Shermans I've played both the US and UK variants however I always found it lacking a little, I guess from the gun damage unless the derp gun is used. Maybe also the speed is no better than say the T1 Heavy. Maybe the T8 version will bring the tank alive.
I'm a few k exp from the Firefly of which I also want to give a go.
The best gun of a tier 8 premium, he said.
There isn't a huge amount of competition, the Löwe is probably the next best, with high accuracy and pen, but the rest of the tank is the problem as it's so big and slow. The FCM 50 T has a great gun too, but has no real armour. On the flipside you can have something with great armour like the Super Pershing, but then you get a fairly poor gun (aside from the APCR round...) or the Jagdtiger 88 where you get a great gun and decent armour but s
te mobility. While that French Sherman thing looks like it could be strong, I'm sure it will have it's fair share of downsides.
I've got a fair few tier 8 premiums, I've got the Löwe, T34, Super Pershing, T95E2, Jagdtiger 88 and 112. Of all of them, I like the 112 the most and the T34 the least. The new wave of PC premiums have not arrived yet, the Kanonejagdpanzer, Rhm Skorpion, AMX CDC and that st Japanese premium, not really that interested in any of those, but they'll be here eventually. There is a premium tier 8 Walker Bulldog on the way, a Brazilian variant with a HESH cannon that can't load AP, APCR or HEAT, it looks pretty interesting, I may or may not purchase one of those.
There isn't a huge amount of competition, the Löwe is probably the next best, with high accuracy and pen, but the rest of the tank is the problem as it's so big and slow. The FCM 50 T has a great gun too, but has no real armour. On the flipside you can have something with great armour like the Super Pershing, but then you get a fairly poor gun (aside from the APCR round...) or the Jagdtiger 88 where you get a great gun and decent armour but s
te mobility. While that French Sherman thing looks like it could be strong, I'm sure it will have it's fair share of downsides.I've got a fair few tier 8 premiums, I've got the Löwe, T34, Super Pershing, T95E2, Jagdtiger 88 and 112. Of all of them, I like the 112 the most and the T34 the least. The new wave of PC premiums have not arrived yet, the Kanonejagdpanzer, Rhm Skorpion, AMX CDC and that s
t Japanese premium, not really that interested in any of those, but they'll be here eventually. There is a premium tier 8 Walker Bulldog on the way, a Brazilian variant with a HESH cannon that can't load AP, APCR or HEAT, it looks pretty interesting, I may or may not purchase one of those. BigMon said:
I had some good games tonight.
One of my clan mates suggested a different strategy for the derp cannon on the O-I. AP for anything tier 6 and below and HE for anything above.
It worked fantastically and, as I have a gun rammer, the reload is now around 20 seconds.
Good fun!
That is an ok strategy if you can safely say your next shot will be a lower tier tank, it could be a valid plan if you're top tier. Personally though, while we don't have Jap heavies on Xbox yet, I've played enough KV-2 to know that HE is generally the way to go - lower tier tanks generally get penned or at least lose most of their health to a surface hit, not to mention the extreme crew and module damage which may not be apparent until after the battle when you see the efficiency screen. The Japs may be different, but the AP on the KV-2 is just too unreliable - easy pens turn into bounces and when you're only firing 3 rounds a minute I want them to all be damaging shots. One of my clan mates suggested a different strategy for the derp cannon on the O-I. AP for anything tier 6 and below and HE for anything above.
It worked fantastically and, as I have a gun rammer, the reload is now around 20 seconds.
Good fun!
RJames said:
Apparently tomorrow Quickybaby is releasing a video of a new T8 Premium Sherman of which he has said he thinks at this point has the best T8 gun. I'd like to see how that looks and plays.
I tried so hard to love the Shermans I've played both the US and UK variants however I always found it lacking a little, I guess from the gun damage unless the derp gun is used. Maybe also the speed is no better than say the T1 Heavy. Maybe the T8 version will bring the tank alive.
It's the M4 Sherman Revalorisé (upgraded). Basically a Super-Sherman with a sawn-off French 105 mm gun & a big-ass muzzle brake. The French Army didn't adopt them, but the Israeli Army did.I tried so hard to love the Shermans I've played both the US and UK variants however I always found it lacking a little, I guess from the gun damage unless the derp gun is used. Maybe also the speed is no better than say the T1 Heavy. Maybe the T8 version will bring the tank alive.
200 pen and 390 alpha damage with standard rounds (Which is APCR at least, so they travel fast).
250 pen with premium, 390 alpha.
53 pen with HE, 480 alpha.
There's a review here:
https://youtu.be/XqI0B3FpDkQ
Beati Dogu said:
It's the M4 Sherman Revalorisé (upgraded). Basically a Super-Sherman with a sawn-off French 105 mm gun & a big-ass muzzle brake. The French Army didn't adopt them, but the Israeli Army did.
200 pen and 390 alpha damage with standard rounds (Which is APCR at least, so they travel fast).
250 pen with premium, 390 alpha.
53 pen with HE, 480 alpha.
There's a review here:
https://youtu.be/XqI0B3FpDkQ
Thanks for linky, thats going to be tough to play well at that tier. Effectively HE'able by most things, a 1 shot for same tier (and lower) arty, not that fast...I like funky tanks, and really the Shermans around tier 5/6 I have loved, but this might be stretching it a bit far. Will be interesting to see what price point it comes in at. 200 pen and 390 alpha damage with standard rounds (Which is APCR at least, so they travel fast).
250 pen with premium, 390 alpha.
53 pen with HE, 480 alpha.
There's a review here:
https://youtu.be/XqI0B3FpDkQ
edit - silly me, it will be a bundle with 10k gold, 6 months sub and a free toolbox. for 100€. Or something equally good value.
Edited by bstb3 on Friday 2nd October 23:13
Yes, a tier 5 hull in a tier 10 game. Yeah...no.
Funny you should say that about bundles. PointyHairedJedi had a bit of a rant about them.
https://youtu.be/kmfjsgH-P1g
I quite agree with him.
In WoT most premium tanks are worse than regular tanks. In Armoured Warfare, apparently they are just as good as regular tanks.
I like that approach.
Funny you should say that about bundles. PointyHairedJedi had a bit of a rant about them.
https://youtu.be/kmfjsgH-P1g
I quite agree with him.
In WoT most premium tanks are worse than regular tanks. In Armoured Warfare, apparently they are just as good as regular tanks.
I like that approach.
The M48, my word, I love this tank. It is old, unloved and nigh-obsoleted by power creep, but I just fking love it. It's armour is poor, forcing a sort of Leopard 1 playstyle, except it's much bigger, slower and has much worse gun stats than the Leopard. It can't go hull down like an STB-1 and it doesn't have the short-mid range prowess of the Russians whose mobility lets them run amok through the enemy lines. Yet still, I find myself absolutely drawn to this tank, determined to do well in it. Early results are promising, I'm topping my teams win or lose on good games and finishing top 3 on decent ones, which isn't always easy in tier 10s as the there is no bonus for attacking or spotting higher tiers.
I'm about half way through my STA-1 grind, which isn't a bad tank at all now it's fully upgraded - in fact I thought this one was pretty competitive even stock, and the Type 61 doesn't look like it will be painful, same zero armour playstyle but with strong guns from the word go. After that, the STB-1 will be researched and bought, tier 10 mediums ahoy.
king love it. It's armour is poor, forcing a sort of Leopard 1 playstyle, except it's much bigger, slower and has much worse gun stats than the Leopard. It can't go hull down like an STB-1 and it doesn't have the short-mid range prowess of the Russians whose mobility lets them run amok through the enemy lines. Yet still, I find myself absolutely drawn to this tank, determined to do well in it. Early results are promising, I'm topping my teams win or lose on good games and finishing top 3 on decent ones, which isn't always easy in tier 10s as the there is no bonus for attacking or spotting higher tiers. I'm about half way through my STA-1 grind, which isn't a bad tank at all now it's fully upgraded - in fact I thought this one was pretty competitive even stock, and the Type 61 doesn't look like it will be painful, same zero armour playstyle but with strong guns from the word go. After that, the STB-1 will be researched and bought, tier 10 mediums ahoy.
I come across some Russian in game shots of the new Chieftain and some of it's stats. As others have pointed out WG have had to nerf the crap out of it.
Armour / WoT Chieftain / Real World
Frontal / 85mm / 120mm (388mm effective)
Turret Front / 250mm / 195mm (390mm effective)
Hopefully the 85mm has a genuine higher effective value otherwise it's mince meat to everything unless completely hull down.
The full values for WoT currently are:
Armour: 85/50/25
Turret: 250/140/30
The gun fitted is the L11A1 120mm, 270pen and 400 alpha.
2200 hit points.
More info at: http://wot-news.com/main/postmsg/152778/33337/3/ch...
Also some info on the Centurion Action X : http://wot-news.com/main/postmsg/152777/33336/3/ce...
Armour / WoT Chieftain / Real World
Frontal / 85mm / 120mm (388mm effective)
Turret Front / 250mm / 195mm (390mm effective)
Hopefully the 85mm has a genuine higher effective value otherwise it's mince meat to everything unless completely hull down.
The full values for WoT currently are:
Armour: 85/50/25
Turret: 250/140/30
The gun fitted is the L11A1 120mm, 270pen and 400 alpha.
2200 hit points.
More info at: http://wot-news.com/main/postmsg/152778/33337/3/ch...
Also some info on the Centurion Action X : http://wot-news.com/main/postmsg/152777/33336/3/ce...
It was just one of those rare (for me) games when it all came together.
They had a GW Panther who didn't fire at me once!
We were defending sand river so I went left from the spawn point to that big rock where I could hide my lower glacis.
Shot after shot which just bounced off me and, which was amusing, a Super Pershing who attacked and was circling me but couldn't pen.
So it's not really that I played great, just that the opposing team didn't play very well TBH. And the KV4 top gun is so much better than the top KV3 one. Particularly at long distance.
They had a GW Panther who didn't fire at me once!
We were defending sand river so I went left from the spawn point to that big rock where I could hide my lower glacis.
Shot after shot which just bounced off me and, which was amusing, a Super Pershing who attacked and was circling me but couldn't pen.
So it's not really that I played great, just that the opposing team didn't play very well TBH. And the KV4 top gun is so much better than the top KV3 one. Particularly at long distance.
Edited by BigMon on Sunday 4th October 09:27
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