World of Tanks (Vol 2)
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Well that was a disappointment... Upgraded the gun to the 90 mm DCA 45 on the ARL 44 and was immediately struggling to hit anything. Went back to the other 90mm and got a top gun and 2.5k damage in the first game, didn't last though and I've been struggling since. Hoping it's just the RNG not playing ball rather than lost the complete ability to play!
Also, had some wierdness with sixth sense on lakeville, was peekabooming from behind a large rock (k7 I think) from different sides and I was being hit before it went off.. It didnt appear to be random fire either as it was from multiple enemy and would stop when I reversed for cover. Sigh.
Also, had some wierdness with sixth sense on lakeville, was peekabooming from behind a large rock (k7 I think) from different sides and I was being hit before it went off.. It didnt appear to be random fire either as it was from multiple enemy and would stop when I reversed for cover. Sigh.
All that jazz said:
cirian75 said:
my experience is the game upon gaining a new tank or upgrading the gun.
will troll you hard with RNG by design.
Only with a new tank or gun? will troll you hard with RNG by design.
You're new to the game, right? 
what I'm saying is the RNG on purpose rolls higher if its a new tank or new gun on the tank for the 1st few games.
You'll always be top tier in the first game with a new tank. That's the only leeway they ever give you.
At least the French heavies have good penetration on their guns, so they generally do damage every time.
I wish I'd stopped at the tier 8 AMX 50 100, as the tier 9 is a long long struggle.
At least the French heavies have good penetration on their guns, so they generally do damage every time.
I wish I'd stopped at the tier 8 AMX 50 100, as the tier 9 is a long long struggle.
Beati Dogu said:
I wish I'd stopped at the tier 8 AMX 50 100, as the tier 9 is a long long struggle.
I suspect i will stop at tier 8. I'm yet to get past tier 8 as i tend to find myself getting a bit bored with the grind once i've unlocked all the packages. I'll get there at some point but i find more enjoyment from trying different tanks.Ah fair enough, but really the advice is dont peek out if you know you are likely to be shot, or at least bait them to miss.
Picked up the Easy 8 a few nights ago, had both the e8 and e2 jumbo unlocked for ages but was earning crew xp and doing ok in the M4.
Well its fully upgraded and almost unlocked the a20 now after only 61 games and a 64% win rate. its an awesome machine lol. I know it used to be rated and has less of a rep now but its crazy fun to play.
Currently using the M1A2 76mm instead of the 105 derp but both are nicely playable.
Building on my medium skills nicely, use your mobility, dont get shot. Surviving near 50% of my e8 battles now.
Hows the rest of the line a20 -> pershing etc?
Picked up the Easy 8 a few nights ago, had both the e8 and e2 jumbo unlocked for ages but was earning crew xp and doing ok in the M4.
Well its fully upgraded and almost unlocked the a20 now after only 61 games and a 64% win rate. its an awesome machine lol. I know it used to be rated and has less of a rep now but its crazy fun to play.
Currently using the M1A2 76mm instead of the 105 derp but both are nicely playable.
Building on my medium skills nicely, use your mobility, dont get shot. Surviving near 50% of my e8 battles now.
Hows the rest of the line a20 -> pershing etc?
RobDickinson said:
Hows the rest of the line a20 -> pershing etc?
It's a good line all round really.The tier 7 isnt all that well loved, the dpm is a bit low, but its very good once understood I think and good practice for the rest of the line. The tier 8 is ace ( fully upgraded), same for the tier 9 though the stock grind is horrific. The tier 10 is thought of as poor in relation to the russian tx meds,and overall it is weaker, but i've found it very competitive in randoms.Nice! Well I am going to grind the e8 a fair while for now its too much fun. Might sell the m4 (no crew) as the e8 seems to do everything better apart from the derp aspect (same gun? higher tier mm).
Almost unlocked the m41 too, T37 has been good, played like a medium (with less aggression), but I am poor at trying to actually scout and get nailed too often, only 47% win rate on this as I've been trying to knock off lt15 but will go for that in the m41 I think, that seems very versatile.
Almost unlocked the m41 too, T37 has been good, played like a medium (with less aggression), but I am poor at trying to actually scout and get nailed too often, only 47% win rate on this as I've been trying to knock off lt15 but will go for that in the m41 I think, that seems very versatile.
RobDickinson said:
Ah fair enough, but really the advice is dont peek out if you know you are likely to be shot, or at least bait them to miss.
Picked up the Easy 8 a few nights ago, had both the e8 and e2 jumbo unlocked for ages but was earning crew xp and doing ok in the M4.
Well its fully upgraded and almost unlocked the a20 now after only 61 games and a 64% win rate. its an awesome machine lol. I know it used to be rated and has less of a rep now but its crazy fun to play.
Currently using the M1A2 76mm instead of the 105 derp but both are nicely playable.
Building on my medium skills nicely, use your mobility, dont get shot. Surviving near 50% of my e8 battles now.
Hows the rest of the line a20 -> pershing etc?
Here's my thoughts on the line, including where you are now and where you're going:Picked up the Easy 8 a few nights ago, had both the e8 and e2 jumbo unlocked for ages but was earning crew xp and doing ok in the M4.
Well its fully upgraded and almost unlocked the a20 now after only 61 games and a 64% win rate. its an awesome machine lol. I know it used to be rated and has less of a rep now but its crazy fun to play.
Currently using the M1A2 76mm instead of the 105 derp but both are nicely playable.
Building on my medium skills nicely, use your mobility, dont get shot. Surviving near 50% of my e8 battles now.
Hows the rest of the line a20 -> pershing etc?
E8: A devastator, can run riot on hilly maps, great gun stats with the 76mm - don't use the 105mm here, it's great on the M4 but poor against tier 8s that you will see.
T20: Feels slow and inflexible after the E8, never really feels like the wolf running among the sheep like the E8 did but my stats were broadly similar, indicating it's still a very strong tank when played right. Upgraded turret armour is good, gets a good gun but never feels amazing. Tier 7 is a bit of a slump tier for a lot of mediums imo, Comet excluded.
Pershing: Terrible stock, painful grind but a brilliant tank when upgraded. Very strong mantlet for a tier 8 medium, can hull-down very, very well. Can easily play conservatively to damage tier 10s from the side or rear, when top tier it can command the pace of the game very well by locking areas down. Has strong view range too, but doesn't have great camo, so use coated optics and peek and retreat on ridges to get sight over them, don't try to hide and spot or you just won't be able to fire without everyone spotting you.
M46 Patton: The most painful stock grind I've yet experienced, it's appallingly bad when it's not fully upgraded. Tier for tier it's turret armour, even fully upgraded, is a big step back over the Pershing, so hull-down is out. You have to play this thing more like a support tank / flanker. Even the top gun isn't amazing as far as tier 9 mediums go. Pain, pain, pain. It can have some good games but you'll always feel like a good player making the most of a poor tank.
M48 Patton: Needs another 60,000xp grinding to unlock the top gun - what a kick in the balls. I converted XP for that, I just couldn't bear to keep grinding that s
te gun on a tier 10 tank. With the proper 105mm gun it's a great tank. Big, not the fast, armour is troll rather than strong, has the best base view range in the game and the gun is a belter. Not the fastest firing, not the most accurate etc, but it has APCR as standard ammo with 268mm pen and HEAT as premium with 330mm pen. When used properly, you can tear through the opposition. It's still arguably the worst tier 10 medium, but a good player in an M48 can have a massive influence on the game. The problem with the M48 is it's the jack of all trades, so it's pretty underrated, you rarely see the best players in them usually because they're in Russian mediums. The M48 is still a beast though, or at least it can be.I'm currently grinding the follow tier 8's, t32, tiger 2, is3, kv4 and t44. Which line would people recommend the most?
My current thoughts:
IS8: I'm currently the closest from researching this (25k from is8) as i enjoy the is3 the most but from what I've read the is8 is more of a heavy medium which might be a bit of a disappointment after the is3.
E75: get on well with the tiger 2 but the e75 doesn't excite me..
M103: like the look of this but I'm not gelling so well with the t32 although i loved the t29..
T54: really want to get through to the obj 430 but I'm finding the t44 gun a bit painful at tier 8.
ST-I: have played the kv4 the least as its a big lumbering beast of a tank so the thought of playing X games puts me off abit..
My current thoughts:
IS8: I'm currently the closest from researching this (25k from is8) as i enjoy the is3 the most but from what I've read the is8 is more of a heavy medium which might be a bit of a disappointment after the is3.
E75: get on well with the tiger 2 but the e75 doesn't excite me..
M103: like the look of this but I'm not gelling so well with the t32 although i loved the t29..
T54: really want to get through to the obj 430 but I'm finding the t44 gun a bit painful at tier 8.
ST-I: have played the kv4 the least as its a big lumbering beast of a tank so the thought of playing X games puts me off abit..
sirbadger said:
I'm currently grinding the follow tier 8's, t32, tiger 2, is3, kv4 and t44. Which line would people recommend the most?
My current thoughts:
IS8: I'm currently the closest from researching this (25k from is8) as i enjoy the is3 the most but from what I've read the is8 is more of a heavy medium which might be a bit of a disappointment after the is3.
E75: get on well with the tiger 2 but the e75 doesn't excite me..
M103: like the look of this but I'm not gelling so well with the t32 although i loved the t29..
T54: really want to get through to the obj 430 but I'm finding the t44 gun a bit painful at tier 8.
ST-I: have played the kv4 the least as its a big lumbering beast of a tank so the thought of playing X games puts me off abit..
IS-8: Rubbish. Nice gun, painful grind, terrible armour for a heavy. Nothing like the dominating bully tank the IS-3 is. It's too big and slow to be a medium, it's not tough enough to be a heavy. Poor. IS-7 is not a great reward for playing this POS either.My current thoughts:
IS8: I'm currently the closest from researching this (25k from is8) as i enjoy the is3 the most but from what I've read the is8 is more of a heavy medium which might be a bit of a disappointment after the is3.
E75: get on well with the tiger 2 but the e75 doesn't excite me..
M103: like the look of this but I'm not gelling so well with the t32 although i loved the t29..
T54: really want to get through to the obj 430 but I'm finding the t44 gun a bit painful at tier 8.
ST-I: have played the kv4 the least as its a big lumbering beast of a tank so the thought of playing X games puts me off abit..
E-75 - Incredible front armour, a total fortress when angled right. Top gun packs a real punch. One of the most powerful tanks at tier 9, aka "World of E-75", its everything you were probably expecting the Tiger II to be. Leads to the E-100, which is a very strong tank at tier X.
M103 - troll hull armour, poor turret. Gets a fantastic gun with 350mm penetration HEAT ammo, which will slice through pretty much any tier 10 with ease as long as you know how to use HEAT effectively. Not much fear factor as so many tanks can shred the turret / sides with ease.
T54 - Strongest tier 9 medium, fast, small and well armoured. Lacks gun depression but is small and fast enough to not suffer to badly from that. Has an amazing gun with 330mm penetration HEAT ammo. Like any medium, it needs a decent player to make it work. Leads to two different tier X mediums, both of which are incredibly strong and probably both in the top 3 mediums at tier X, if not 1st and 2nd best.
ST1 - Very strong armour, small weakspots. Slow and not the best gun handling, but can bully lower tier tanks mercilessly. Leads to the IS-4, which is generally regarded as worse than the IS-7, which I've already said I don't really rate.
Really it depends on how you want to play. I prefer medium tanks, as their speed and flexibility lets you have a bigger impact on the game if you play well. If you like heavies then personally I'd go down the E-75, despite looking like a Tiger II it's a very different tank in terms of playstyle, because you end up with worse gun handling, but epic armour and punch with the 128mm gun, plus you can grind it on to the E-100, which is way better than an IS-7 or IS-4 at tier X.
The T32 isn't OP like the T29, but it's still a good tank. The M103 is fine and the T110E5 was over-buffed recently and is stupidly OP. I just bought one as it's top of the tree at the moment. I also had a 3 skill crew to drop into it from the winter 8 bit games ages ago.
The IS-8 was also buffed when it went HD recently and it's better than it was armour wise. It's not ridiculously OP like the IS-3 is now, but it's fine. It's not a POS, I did more damage in mine than any other tier 9 heavy, despite having to grind the top gun & everything else from scratch. Yes, its mobility is good and that allows you to get into positions first and flank easier.
The ST-I is also a decent tank. People struggle to damage you and although it's not exactly fast, it's big and ugly with a nice intimidatory factor. The driver does get knocked out pretty much every other game though. It has the same gun as the IS-8 and IS-4 so you don't need to unlock it twice. Fire premium ammo and it'll go through the flat turret front of an E-100 no problem.
The E-75 isn't as good as I thought it would be. It's fun when it's top tier as you get to bully people. They're very common though, so people know it has a cripplingly long reload and where its weak points are. I used high octane fuel instead of a fire extinguisher to make it move its fat arse. I prefer the ST-I or the WZ-111 1-4, which is like an IS-8 with the E-75's gun & a better rate of fire.
The T-54 has ridiculously high pen gold ammo, which is why most players spam it constantly. I didn't fire enough of it, which is a common failing of mine. They really need to nerf this, but it's Russian, so they won't. It also has a better engine and frontal armour than the tier 10s, which along with the gun, make it so OP.
The IS-8 was also buffed when it went HD recently and it's better than it was armour wise. It's not ridiculously OP like the IS-3 is now, but it's fine. It's not a POS, I did more damage in mine than any other tier 9 heavy, despite having to grind the top gun & everything else from scratch. Yes, its mobility is good and that allows you to get into positions first and flank easier.
The ST-I is also a decent tank. People struggle to damage you and although it's not exactly fast, it's big and ugly with a nice intimidatory factor. The driver does get knocked out pretty much every other game though. It has the same gun as the IS-8 and IS-4 so you don't need to unlock it twice. Fire premium ammo and it'll go through the flat turret front of an E-100 no problem.
The E-75 isn't as good as I thought it would be. It's fun when it's top tier as you get to bully people. They're very common though, so people know it has a cripplingly long reload and where its weak points are. I used high octane fuel instead of a fire extinguisher to make it move its fat arse. I prefer the ST-I or the WZ-111 1-4, which is like an IS-8 with the E-75's gun & a better rate of fire.
The T-54 has ridiculously high pen gold ammo, which is why most players spam it constantly. I didn't fire enough of it, which is a common failing of mine. They really need to nerf this, but it's Russian, so they won't. It also has a better engine and frontal armour than the tier 10s, which along with the gun, make it so OP.
Thanks for the short reviews! I've elited the is3 today but will stop there on that line. Will concentrate on the t54/obj 140 and t57 heavy lines I think. (Didn't include t57 in my post but I'm only on the bulldog so a bit of a way off)
Edited by sirbadger on Saturday 14th November 20:32
I have the T57 Heavy and I don't like it. I wish I'd bought the T110E5 at the time instead. Even by WoT standards, the gun handling is terrible (they nerfed it). It's also fairly slow and very situational. I do get a decent game with it now and then, but largely it's a pain.
As with any autoloader, it's best to immobilise your enemy first. If you're smart, you'll wait for them to use their repair kit, then track them again with your second shot. It takes some discipline to do that though.
I remember catching a full health E100 as he was coming round a corner at right angles. I tracked & damaged him before his gun could be brought to bear. Then I shot him 3 more times in the same place, taking 1600 health off before a team mate took him out from behind. 22 seconds later I was back in business.
As with any autoloader, it's best to immobilise your enemy first. If you're smart, you'll wait for them to use their repair kit, then track them again with your second shot. It takes some discipline to do that though.
I remember catching a full health E100 as he was coming round a corner at right angles. I tracked & damaged him before his gun could be brought to bear. Then I shot him 3 more times in the same place, taking 1600 health off before a team mate took him out from behind. 22 seconds later I was back in business.
Has anybody seen anything about Xmas discounts?
I'm really hoping for a 15% across the board discount. If I can time it just right I can get an ST-I, O-Ho, T54 lwt and either an RU251 or FV207 (I need more tier 8 lights to give me a better chance in LT15 for the T28 HTC).
If there is a discount it will need me to sell various tanks for 'full' price just before the discount, as well as having saved up about 7 million credits (I'm at about 5 so far).
Complicated stuff!
I'm really hoping for a 15% across the board discount. If I can time it just right I can get an ST-I, O-Ho, T54 lwt and either an RU251 or FV207 (I need more tier 8 lights to give me a better chance in LT15 for the T28 HTC).
If there is a discount it will need me to sell various tanks for 'full' price just before the discount, as well as having saved up about 7 million credits (I'm at about 5 so far).
Complicated stuff!
Dear WoT,
how about removing the ability to start another game, whilst you still have a tank alive in your current match? You know, so that you can't run multiple matches concurrently? Sure, you can quit out of a game if you like but you can't start another match until your tank in the original game is dead?
Can't be that hard....surely?
how about removing the ability to start another game, whilst you still have a tank alive in your current match? You know, so that you can't run multiple matches concurrently? Sure, you can quit out of a game if you like but you can't start another match until your tank in the original game is dead?
Can't be that hard....surely?
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