World of Tanks (Vol 2)
Discussion
robemcdonald said:
The gun it comes with belongs several tiers below. It won't penetrate armour of tier 8-10. The more powerful gun is 1400000 points. That's a hell of a grind when you've only got a peashooter. Yup I could use gold to transfer xp, but would need convincing that the do couldn't be better spent elsewhwre
Welcome to tier 9, the last big push before tier X. It's deliberately set up to be a brutal grind on almost every tank in order to promote you to buy gold to convert XP. You can do that, you can do what most of us do and grit your teeth and get to work. The gun isn't 140,000xp, that's just the cost of all of the top modules. With each package you unlock, you'll notice the top package cost reduces. This still means you'll need to earn 140,000xp before you can use the top gun, but it's not quite as bad as it first looks as each package makes the tank more competitive and therefore easier to play.The T30 may not be one of the stellar TDs of tier 9, but it's far from weak. Played correctly, hull down when spotting, aiming and firing and dipping down below the ridge on the long reloads, it can be a nigh-unmovable rock upon which the enemy attack falters. I generally don't fight them from the front while they're hull down unless I'm in a tier X TD or medium so I can fire HEAT through the front of the turret and even then, I'd tend to look for another way round in a medium.
It sounds from your posts that you need to learn the game mechanics better. You are getting shot when you're not spotted, you've either been spotted and not realised, or been spotted, become unspotted and not moved, or the enemy is watching your shell tracers. Alternatively, you might just be sitting in a predictable location. How many crew skills does your T30 crew have, and what skills / perks are you using? What equipment are you using? It might be worth spending a bit longer at the lower tiers training a decent crew, learning the maps and the mechanics.
As someone mentioned a few pages back, the hardest thing about getting to the top of the game in WOT is knowing where to go and when, what to shoot first and how to attack and defend to maximise your damage output and protect your health. Once you know all that, you'll be carrying games on a much more regular basis, but before you get there you've got to learn the basics.
My favourite tank is the t67. When I play that and don't get matched against 12 hammer tigers I usually clear up. Generally between 3-5 kills per battle (I got 8 a couple of times).
As soon as I get the detected ping I move well away from last location. In terms of equipment I always seem to use a camo net, periscope sight and the thing that speeds up loading.
In terms of crew ranks mt t67 are level 4 (my best crew) I have prioritised the camouflage skills as this seemed to be best for the tank destroyer route.
I think my main problem is being stuck in a battle with a tank that won't damage the opposition even at point blank range on unarmoured parts of the tanks.
I know it sound like a moan. I am enjoying it, but find always having the lowest rank tank very tough.
As soon as I get the detected ping I move well away from last location. In terms of equipment I always seem to use a camo net, periscope sight and the thing that speeds up loading.
In terms of crew ranks mt t67 are level 4 (my best crew) I have prioritised the camouflage skills as this seemed to be best for the tank destroyer route.
I think my main problem is being stuck in a battle with a tank that won't damage the opposition even at point blank range on unarmoured parts of the tanks.
I know it sound like a moan. I am enjoying it, but find always having the lowest rank tank very tough.
Z06George said:
You guys went down the wrong TD line, the T110E3 line is much better. Tier IX T95>T30.
I went down both but stopped before getting the t28. I have an ISU-152 elited that will do me for casemate td's I think (once i can afford the tier9)...T30 is slow - ok not as slow as the t28p, but huge and made out of paper. yes the turret has armour but really it gets pen'd enough in wot with gold spam.
And it damned needs it too as the gun takes forever to aim and thats only an approximation.
Absolutely nothing like the t28p with a snappy fast aim gun that can hurt the enemy.
At tier 9 I am doing far less damage than my tier 8 scorp with poorer aim time etc. Ok that has a tier 10 gun and I dont have the 155 yet but still.
its the only td in that line I absolutely hate, I know how your supposed to play it, a 2nd line HT/TD hull down etc its just no fun.
What put you off buying the T28? I dislike the 2nd line sniping game play which is why I love the T95/T110E3, with their massive gun and really good armour you can quite happily bully the enemy. The T95 has the extra fun of idiots thinking they'll get a ram kill and just die as they bounce off of you. Also the 'E3 paired with Mastodon's JPE100 results in much hilarious double barrel shot gunning. 
Z06George said:
You guys went down the wrong TD line, the T110E3 line is much better. Tier IX T95>T30.
I don't know how you can play the T95. I found the T28 Prototype pretty bad and that was like a racecar compared with the T95!Maybe better if you're playing with others who can protect you but surely something so slow is massively situational plus in any open maps with a few arty on the other side you're just a constant target with no speed to react.
I've had the Type 4 Heavy for a few months and, pre buff, I imagine that was pretty similar. The odd great game interspersed with loads of massively frustrating ones where you either get blown to smithereens by arty, your team annihilates the other and you are too slow to catch them up and put out any damage, or your team crumbles and you fight a rear guard action before being overran.
housen said:
I went down a rando route on my ps4
and have the Churchill tank
is it any good ?
I guess there must be a vanilla route to tanks people go through with research to get the best one ?
either way I like this game a lot
Having now played using the IS-2, I much prefer my Churchill VII! Whilst the Churchil is a very slooow tank, it's gun is accurate and is great for sniping with. It has good frontal armour but there is still the ever present risk of being tracked...and have the Churchill tank
is it any good ?
I guess there must be a vanilla route to tanks people go through with research to get the best one ?
either way I like this game a lot
mikelima said:
housen said:
I went down a rando route on my ps4
and have the Churchill tank
is it any good ?
I guess there must be a vanilla route to tanks people go through with research to get the best one ?
either way I like this game a lot
Having now played using the IS-2, I much prefer my Churchill VII! Whilst the Churchil is a very slooow tank, it's gun is accurate and is great for sniping with. It has good frontal armour but there is still the ever present risk of being tracked...and have the Churchill tank
is it any good ?
I guess there must be a vanilla route to tanks people go through with research to get the best one ?
either way I like this game a lot
love this game
my son got me in to on my iphone but when I saw it was on ps4 ....wow
BigMon said:
Z06George said:
You guys went down the wrong TD line, the T110E3 line is much better. Tier IX T95>T30.
I don't know how you can play the T95. I found the T28 Prototype pretty bad and that was like a racecar compared with the T95!Maybe better if you're playing with others who can protect you but surely something so slow is massively situational plus in any open maps with a few arty on the other side you're just a constant target with no speed to react.
I've had the Type 4 Heavy for a few months and, pre buff, I imagine that was pretty similar. The odd great game interspersed with loads of massively frustrating ones where you either get blown to smithereens by arty, your team annihilates the other and you are too slow to catch them up and put out any damage, or your team crumbles and you fight a rear guard action before being overran.
Who said the WZ-111-14 was good? Who was it? 
It's a Chinese T10 if ever I saw one, top gun looks good but the frontal armour is unreliable to say the least, it's quick but a massive target. I'm still a way off the top gun, the 100mm is passable but nothing more. The 113 should be worth it, once the console gets the PC buffs applied, if they haven't already gone on.
It's a Chinese T10 if ever I saw one, top gun looks good but the frontal armour is unreliable to say the least, it's quick but a massive target. I'm still a way off the top gun, the 100mm is passable but nothing more. The 113 should be worth it, once the console gets the PC buffs applied, if they haven't already gone on.TEKNOPUG said:
I just had a battle where 9 (nine) players on my team managed to do 0 (zero) damage 
lol sounds typical. So many games where I play well but ultimately get screwed by the rest of the team.Spent some gold unlocking xp for the 155mm on the t30. its nice to be able to hit things harder but still, very derpy, not snappy at all, and with 20 second reload you cant afford to miss. in that time I could have 3 shots out of the scorp at 500-600 damage each vs 2 for 700ish. it has some more armour but getting into position and getting aimed is a pain in comparison
Well to add some positivity to all the crapness and I'll admit I've seen my fair share recently I've had a couple of belters a few days ago. Finally got mastery in the T110E3 with a 7 kill, 7.5k dmg game. Also I've finally blocked more thank 10k dmg in a game with it, 11,390 to be exact, it was a loss in the end with the team being s
te but I've been wanting to block 5 figures for ages.
te but I've been wanting to block 5 figures for ages.As I've started again I had a few belter of rounds last night in my Cruiser III and got onto the tier 3 one. Seems that as soon as you win a couple of rounds all you get after that is being the bottom tier and on lights I just don't have the skills to overcome 
Spotted a couple before I got one-shotted by a tier V on the couple of battles I did.
Working my way to TD's (SU100) on USSR and the Cromwell in the UK. Then I'll start with the USA though not sure where to go with them will have a check back through the thread
Edit: to save people going back this is the recommendations I've been using when I asked first time round:
Spotted a couple before I got one-shotted by a tier V on the couple of battles I did.Working my way to TD's (SU100) on USSR and the Cromwell in the UK. Then I'll start with the USA though not sure where to go with them will have a check back through the thread
Edit: to save people going back this is the recommendations I've been using when I asked first time round:
bstb3 said:
In general:
USSR - easy to play, best starter nation overall - the KV1 heavy line / T-34 medium lines worth playing. Su-100 TD line also very good. Avoid SU101 / a-43 medium lines as they are pretty hard to play.
USA - good mix of tanks and styles, probably the best all round nation (if you wanted to focus on just one). Most lines very good, the TD's a little weak after tier 7 relative to other nations. The light tanks are excellent.
UK - harder to play, never really the best in class, but some real gems (Cromwell for exmample). Medium line that goes to the Centurion AX best bet for UK.
German - rarely as good as the USA / USSR line. The occasional good tank often surrounded by mediocrity. But if you want to play a Tiger its the only way to go. Would recommend the Tiger HT line, just because it's usually ok.
French - Quirky. Usually rely on mobility over armour, can be very good but takes a bit of know how to get the best out of them. I'd go up the heavy line first, if any, simply because the tier 5 BDR is a lot of fun. Avoid the TD's like the plague, the tier 5 is ok, the rest garbage (though the tier 4 is good for a laugh)
China - Clones of USSR tanks, usually with a higher rate of fire but other weaknesses to compensate (lack of gun depression). Best left alone really.
Japan - Pretty new, only mediums (ok, not great, tier 7 is a joke) and massive heavies (currently very overpowered at tier 5/6, so-so after that).
Czech - Very new, mediums only. Tier 9 & 10 very good, before that not really good to start with. Tend to be lightly armoured so need to play with caution.
USSR - easy to play, best starter nation overall - the KV1 heavy line / T-34 medium lines worth playing. Su-100 TD line also very good. Avoid SU101 / a-43 medium lines as they are pretty hard to play.
USA - good mix of tanks and styles, probably the best all round nation (if you wanted to focus on just one). Most lines very good, the TD's a little weak after tier 7 relative to other nations. The light tanks are excellent.
UK - harder to play, never really the best in class, but some real gems (Cromwell for exmample). Medium line that goes to the Centurion AX best bet for UK.
German - rarely as good as the USA / USSR line. The occasional good tank often surrounded by mediocrity. But if you want to play a Tiger its the only way to go. Would recommend the Tiger HT line, just because it's usually ok.
French - Quirky. Usually rely on mobility over armour, can be very good but takes a bit of know how to get the best out of them. I'd go up the heavy line first, if any, simply because the tier 5 BDR is a lot of fun. Avoid the TD's like the plague, the tier 5 is ok, the rest garbage (though the tier 4 is good for a laugh)
China - Clones of USSR tanks, usually with a higher rate of fire but other weaknesses to compensate (lack of gun depression). Best left alone really.
Japan - Pretty new, only mediums (ok, not great, tier 7 is a joke) and massive heavies (currently very overpowered at tier 5/6, so-so after that).
Czech - Very new, mediums only. Tier 9 & 10 very good, before that not really good to start with. Tend to be lightly armoured so need to play with caution.
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