World of Tanks (Vol 2)
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They’ve utterly wrecked the console version with the new update. Reddit has gone into meme meltdown, even Youtuber “Space bandit” can’t really put much of a positive spin on it.
They’ve nerf’d the crews into oblivion , 9 skills max and the gameplay is utterly awful now. Consumables are charged if used or not , ammo cost defaults to Gold and a lot of gamers are out, myself included.
They’ve nerf’d the crews into oblivion , 9 skills max and the gameplay is utterly awful now. Consumables are charged if used or not , ammo cost defaults to Gold and a lot of gamers are out, myself included.
Came back to the game for a while, seems not much has changed apart from lots of new tanks shooting me now 
(also those wheely b
ds are still annoying as feck).
Since the 'Tour of Duty' change it looks like the VBRJ clan has been building up reserves just by peeps playing the game. It's possible to use these reserves to generate clan bonuses (work in the same way as personal reserves) for credits, XP boosts and so on. Doesn't look like anyone did anything with them, but not sure who in the clan would have had enough clan permissions to do it, so I've upgraded the stronghold to tier 4, which gives decent-ish boosts. It's about as far as we can go given the rate we seem to be earning points vs the cost to do it.
For the people in the clan who are still active (looks like 7 in the last month)- I raised your clan rank so you can all make and use the reserves & manage the stronghold. You need to do it through the clan tab in the garage. Suggest just using them as you wish when playing, every little helps.
(also those wheely bds are still annoying as feck).Since the 'Tour of Duty' change it looks like the VBRJ clan has been building up reserves just by peeps playing the game. It's possible to use these reserves to generate clan bonuses (work in the same way as personal reserves) for credits, XP boosts and so on. Doesn't look like anyone did anything with them, but not sure who in the clan would have had enough clan permissions to do it, so I've upgraded the stronghold to tier 4, which gives decent-ish boosts. It's about as far as we can go given the rate we seem to be earning points vs the cost to do it.
For the people in the clan who are still active (looks like 7 in the last month)- I raised your clan rank so you can all make and use the reserves & manage the stronghold. You need to do it through the clan tab in the garage. Suggest just using them as you wish when playing, every little helps.
How on earth does anyone get to the wheeled vehicles without spending £?
The lower tier French tanks are terrible - they are really slow and pretty weak.
I've just unlocked the AMX 40 - which, from the stats, looked like it might be decent. It's as slow as the AMX 38.
I'm thinking I might need to spend £10 on some gold.
The lower tier French tanks are terrible - they are really slow and pretty weak.
I've just unlocked the AMX 40 - which, from the stats, looked like it might be decent. It's as slow as the AMX 38.
I'm thinking I might need to spend £10 on some gold.
omniflow said:
I've just unlocked the AMX 40 - which, from the stats, looked like it might be decent. It's as slow as the AMX 38.
You must be quackers!
It's a crappy tank, but the tier 4 to 5 grind isn't that bad - especially with the doubles. Which is all I had when I elited the AMX40. You've now got premium with it's 50%, the 5x assignable bonuses, blueprint fragments and personal reserves.
Admittedly, I got given the AMX ELC because of a change in the tech tree and never had to play it, but iirc, it replaced something much worse.
It's won't take long to get past both.
I dont think the AMX 40 grind would take that long relatively speaking.
If you were to free xp I would only go as far as the gateway ELC. I wouldn't want to miss out on playing that (even though its been nerfed from its god like status) Everything is slow up to the ELC
But yeah, im all for skipping with free xp. Tend to only use blueprints on the high tier vehicles as the low tier stuff is quick to research.
Good luck with your grind
If you were to free xp I would only go as far as the gateway ELC. I wouldn't want to miss out on playing that (even though its been nerfed from its god like status) Everything is slow up to the ELC
But yeah, im all for skipping with free xp. Tend to only use blueprints on the high tier vehicles as the low tier stuff is quick to research.
Good luck with your grind
Before gold amo the AMX40 was an interesting tank to play - guns too weak to hurt much of the opposition, but little that could damage it. You basically teamed up with a TD or two and drover forwards taking fire and lighting up targets for the hidden snipers behind you.
ELC was a seriously good tank back then as well but now is a PoS due to power creep and the pay to win nature of the game.
Slightly off topic - anyone else see/read that SirFoch is quitting WoT with a live uninstall this weekend. He finally got fed up with the game.
ELC was a seriously good tank back then as well but now is a PoS due to power creep and the pay to win nature of the game.
Slightly off topic - anyone else see/read that SirFoch is quitting WoT with a live uninstall this weekend. He finally got fed up with the game.
dapprman said:
Before gold amo the AMX40 was an interesting tank to play - guns too weak to hurt much of the opposition, but little that could damage it. You basically teamed up with a TD or two and drover forwards taking fire and lighting up targets for the hidden snipers behind you.
ELC was a seriously good tank back then as well but now is a PoS due to power creep and the pay to win nature of the game.
Slightly off topic - anyone else see/read that SirFoch is quitting WoT with a live uninstall this weekend. He finally got fed up with the game.
I thought he did his final stream for WOT a few weeks back? I'm surprised he held on as long as he did, the game is in a dire state now. ELC was a seriously good tank back then as well but now is a PoS due to power creep and the pay to win nature of the game.
Slightly off topic - anyone else see/read that SirFoch is quitting WoT with a live uninstall this weekend. He finally got fed up with the game.
Mastodon2 said:
I thought he did his final stream for WOT a few weeks back? I'm surprised he held on as long as he did, the game is in a dire state now.
I might have picked up an older video than I believed - thought it was just a day or two old - must have been a week or two.I'd argue it's been in a dire state for at least a few years now, and we're now seeing pay-2-win ships appearing in WoWS every more (WoWP has always been seriously unbalanced, however some of the really over powered stuff if researchable, but that does not stop improving them by cash type methods).
dapprman said:
I might have picked up an older video than I believed - thought it was just a day or two old - must have been a week or two.
I'd argue it's been in a dire state for at least a few years now, and we're now seeing pay-2-win ships appearing in WoWS every more (WoWP has always been seriously unbalanced, however some of the really over powered stuff if researchable, but that does not stop improving them by cash type methods).
It's the same in WarThunder - the top tanks at each tier are generally paid for tanks and are more often than not captured tanks - the German KV-1, etc. Though that game is even worse as the developers just pander to the hundred or so players that just buy their way to every new vehicle in the game (we're talking thousand+ dollars a month) so all development is going into modern machinery.I'd argue it's been in a dire state for at least a few years now, and we're now seeing pay-2-win ships appearing in WoWS every more (WoWP has always been seriously unbalanced, however some of the really over powered stuff if researchable, but that does not stop improving them by cash type methods).
I've had a shocking 6 weeks playing WoT. Seemed to have gone downhill massively. I might play well once or twice in 10 games played. I really enjoy the game but make poor choices (combination of impatience/trying to make an impact for the team/not keeping up with things as the games unfold (so getting caught out of position etc). Just when I think I've nailed it (after a good game - a good game for me is killing 3 or more tanks/2,500 damage and 1,000 spotting) the next game I get killed almost immediately and the next and the next and the next............arghhhhhh!
My favourite TD is the su-130pm that i bought 4 years ago i think but I gave the game up for 2.5 years and I think it's been nerfed perhaps? I'm slowly going off it (but I've got a great crew in it - perhaps I should swap them into something else). I've also got a obj430 that I've grinded up to......and hate it. Gun handling is poor - wish I kept the crew in the t-44 or even the t34-85.
I've got a great crew in my cromwell too but I've gone off that aswell (like the 75mm gun but I must be using it wrong as it's not the greatest brawler).
I'm currently grinding swedish td's - I've an ikv-103 at the moment but want to move on from that as quickly as possibly. Playing for the clan has added a certain amount of pressure too (in a good way actually). Every match really counts now - before - a bad game didn't matter - it was just me that was affected.
My favourite TD is the su-130pm that i bought 4 years ago i think but I gave the game up for 2.5 years and I think it's been nerfed perhaps? I'm slowly going off it (but I've got a great crew in it - perhaps I should swap them into something else). I've also got a obj430 that I've grinded up to......and hate it. Gun handling is poor - wish I kept the crew in the t-44 or even the t34-85.
I've got a great crew in my cromwell too but I've gone off that aswell (like the 75mm gun but I must be using it wrong as it's not the greatest brawler).
I'm currently grinding swedish td's - I've an ikv-103 at the moment but want to move on from that as quickly as possibly. Playing for the clan has added a certain amount of pressure too (in a good way actually). Every match really counts now - before - a bad game didn't matter - it was just me that was affected.
All thats happening is the strategy needed is changing.
Forget all that bullst about pay to win and OP tanks, the biggest problem is people dont adapt to what is going on around them.
There does seem to be an issue witha lot of new players, but that will always be an issue with a popular game.
Remember those noobs are on both sides, so just bide your time and pounce.
These days you cant just push forwards killing everything.
Patience really is the key and picking your moment.
Im actually enjoying the T8 Italian heavy at the mo. Its not perfect but is making me think more about what and when i do something. That in the long run will help your oeveral skill.
Forget all that bulls
t about pay to win and OP tanks, the biggest problem is people dont adapt to what is going on around them.There does seem to be an issue witha lot of new players, but that will always be an issue with a popular game.
Remember those noobs are on both sides, so just bide your time and pounce.
These days you cant just push forwards killing everything.
Patience really is the key and picking your moment.
Im actually enjoying the T8 Italian heavy at the mo. Its not perfect but is making me think more about what and when i do something. That in the long run will help your oeveral skill.
The_Jackal said:
All thats happening is the strategy needed is changing.
Forget all that bullst about pay to win and OP tanks, the biggest problem is people dont adapt to what is going on around them.
There does seem to be an issue witha lot of new players, but that will always be an issue with a popular game.
Remember those noobs are on both sides, so just bide your time and pounce.
These days you cant just push forwards killing everything.
Patience really is the key and picking your moment.
Im actually enjoying the T8 Italian heavy at the mo. Its not perfect but is making me think more about what and when i do something. That in the long run will help your oeveral skill.
What's the right strategy for playing light tanks at Tier VForget all that bulls
t about pay to win and OP tanks, the biggest problem is people dont adapt to what is going on around them.There does seem to be an issue witha lot of new players, but that will always be an issue with a popular game.
Remember those noobs are on both sides, so just bide your time and pounce.
These days you cant just push forwards killing everything.
Patience really is the key and picking your moment.
Im actually enjoying the T8 Italian heavy at the mo. Its not perfect but is making me think more about what and when i do something. That in the long run will help your oeveral skill.
My understanding is that the primary role is to go and spot, but when I do that I pretty much always get killed and don't collect much experience. I can't damage much as my tank is too weedy, so how should I be playing it? I suspect I should be hanging back a bit more than I currently am, and finding somewhere to hide. I don't really want to invest too much money in this tank (AMX ELC Bis) because I am grinding to the 1st wheeled vehicle.
Well there isn't really one strategy - it's dynamic depending on the map, the team compositions and the way you have set up your tank.
Essentially as a light you have two basic options - active spotter or passive spotter. Some LT excel at one or the other, some at both, but be aware that passive spotting (parking in a bush and waiting) is limited in use on many maps. Active spotting is more useful across most maps, but also higher risk as you will be spotted yourself most likely. Don't worry about damage dealing, especially in early game, since that is not your role - you can get damage later in a game once enemies are thinned down and isolated, where your mobility and stealth can be more easily employed. Also don't be bullied by your team into spotting early if it will for sure kill you for no benefit (often the team can't get early shots anyway, even if you do spot). Early game spotting is fine, but mid to late game it can really win the battle and you can't do that if you are already back in the garage.
Thing is, LT is the most difficult class to play well - you have to really make a plan for each battle dependent on the map, where your team goes, how much arty, what tanks the enemy has, are you top tier LT or bottom? If enemy has higher tier LT, especially wheeled ones, then you have to be very careful as they will for sure outmatch you one to one and you need to plan around avoiding them. If you are top tier LT you need to think about countering the enemy LT too if you think they might be trying to get to a strong passive spot on some maps. There is a lot to consider to do it well.
For an ELC, generally it does better as a passive spotter, especially since the nerf, so using it's camo with gear to max out stationary view range (bino, commander vision system, camo net) might give the best results if you know the maps well - but accept on quite a few maps it won't work. Otherwise active spotting (cautiously) is the way to go, and take equipment that maximise your on the move vision and camo - coated optics, vision system and low noise exhaust.
Top tip - if passive spotting make sure you know how camo mechanics work and never, never, shoot from your spotting location until you are 100% sure everyone is spotted and accounted for. That cheeky shot to kill a low health tank can ruin a game if you get spotted for it.
edit to add - I saw you say grinding for the wheeled. In that case go active, as the equipment for that you can take to the wheeled vehicle when you are ready. Passive spotting is not at all viable for wheelies.
Essentially as a light you have two basic options - active spotter or passive spotter. Some LT excel at one or the other, some at both, but be aware that passive spotting (parking in a bush and waiting) is limited in use on many maps. Active spotting is more useful across most maps, but also higher risk as you will be spotted yourself most likely. Don't worry about damage dealing, especially in early game, since that is not your role - you can get damage later in a game once enemies are thinned down and isolated, where your mobility and stealth can be more easily employed. Also don't be bullied by your team into spotting early if it will for sure kill you for no benefit (often the team can't get early shots anyway, even if you do spot). Early game spotting is fine, but mid to late game it can really win the battle and you can't do that if you are already back in the garage.
Thing is, LT is the most difficult class to play well - you have to really make a plan for each battle dependent on the map, where your team goes, how much arty, what tanks the enemy has, are you top tier LT or bottom? If enemy has higher tier LT, especially wheeled ones, then you have to be very careful as they will for sure outmatch you one to one and you need to plan around avoiding them. If you are top tier LT you need to think about countering the enemy LT too if you think they might be trying to get to a strong passive spot on some maps. There is a lot to consider to do it well.
For an ELC, generally it does better as a passive spotter, especially since the nerf, so using it's camo with gear to max out stationary view range (bino, commander vision system, camo net) might give the best results if you know the maps well - but accept on quite a few maps it won't work. Otherwise active spotting (cautiously) is the way to go, and take equipment that maximise your on the move vision and camo - coated optics, vision system and low noise exhaust.
Top tip - if passive spotting make sure you know how camo mechanics work and never, never, shoot from your spotting location until you are 100% sure everyone is spotted and accounted for. That cheeky shot to kill a low health tank can ruin a game if you get spotted for it.
edit to add - I saw you say grinding for the wheeled. In that case go active, as the equipment for that you can take to the wheeled vehicle when you are ready. Passive spotting is not at all viable for wheelies.
Edited by bstb3 on Sunday 31st January 10:44
Is the T71 still the spotting Queen? I haven't played for over 5 years but used to have great fun getting to the right location fast then turn around so I was ready to run away like a baby if spotted. The whole thing was set up for passive spotting (binocs, camo etc) - from what was available at the time at least as I guess things have changed now.
Some games I could have gone and made myself a cup of tea, come back and scored the best in my team through spotting assistance (pinch of salt needed there but you hopefully get my gist)
Some games I could have gone and made myself a cup of tea, come back and scored the best in my team through spotting assistance (pinch of salt needed there but you hopefully get my gist)
They were doing that when I played - T71 had enough HP to absorb a shot of two before it got a bit tasty - I remember an E50 (?) on Malinkova (?) taking a pot shot and hitting me but then thinking I couldn't have been there as I didn't move and then turning the air blue in chat when I eventually had to shift
Forget all the meta from 5 years ago, alot has moved on.
Better, faster, more camo, more view range. A lot of hte tanks have got better and there are so many new tanks. There are medium tanks with light tanks levels of camo and view range.
Just try all the lines, Tier 8 and 9 is the sweet spot. There are so many new tanks.
A good start is to watch the tech tree reviews from Skill4ltu and Quickbaby. It will give you a great idea of what tanks you may like and aim for.
Then there are the premium tanks, there are some very nice ones. I got a Bourrasque in the Xmas event and love it. Within a month it was my most played tank.
Better, faster, more camo, more view range. A lot of hte tanks have got better and there are so many new tanks. There are medium tanks with light tanks levels of camo and view range.
Just try all the lines, Tier 8 and 9 is the sweet spot. There are so many new tanks.
A good start is to watch the tech tree reviews from Skill4ltu and Quickbaby. It will give you a great idea of what tanks you may like and aim for.
Then there are the premium tanks, there are some very nice ones. I got a Bourrasque in the Xmas event and love it. Within a month it was my most played tank.
The_Jackal said:
Just try all the lines, Tier 8 and 9 is the sweet spot.
Yep, this. I got to level 10, without paying except for a few boxes over Xmas, and it's not worthwhile! The cost of running a T10 tank is just not possible without paying, and the Battle Royale or whatever their called, with 25 tanks per side, is just carnage and tbh I don't find it very enjoyable. You can't move without being seen somewhere and getting hit.
Level 8 or 9 are good though. You can make it work without spending money, and you get a range of opponents to fight against.
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