World of Tanks (Vol 2)

[The_Jackal]

Saying that, I love my STB in 7v7.
I've never played so well at Tier X. Even manage to make credits.

[MKnight702]

Jeez, what have they done?

I used to love playing tank destroyers, but now they are, at best, capable of delivering a nasty scratch to the enemy tanks paint. They seem to be favouring the charge in regardless firing wildly approach.

[Checkmate]

MKnight702 said:

Jeez, what have they done?

I used to love playing tank destroyers, but now they are, at best, capable of delivering a nasty scratch to the enemy tanks paint. They seem to be favouring the charge in regardless firing wildly approach.

What tanks are you playing, and when did you last play that you are comparing it to?
The WoT meta is pretty fluid. Current meta favours fast, high DPM (or burst DPM) tanks. Armour is fairly irrelevant as gold is pretty much everywhere, so speed and gank are king, gun handling is highly valuable. The aggressive team almost always wins, unless it's one of "those" maps. TDs tend to be fairly passive in play style, and can't see, so when overrun by fast aggressive packs, after your heavies have fallen due to lack of ideas, it's largely going to be a loss.
That's not to say that TDs can't be effective, just you need to find a good spot. TDs tend to have high pen guns, so if you find a good spot where the opposite team are approaching into your sights, you can have some great shooting galleries.
That said, I don't play TDs anymore, I play fast meds and fast heavies.

[FiF]

Checkmate said:

MKnight702 said:

Jeez, what have they done?

I used to love playing tank destroyers, but now they are, at best, capable of delivering a nasty scratch to the enemy tanks paint. They seem to be favouring the charge in regardless firing wildly approach.

What tanks are you playing, and when did you last play that you are comparing it to?
The WoT meta is pretty fluid. Current meta favours fast, high DPM (or burst DPM) tanks. Armour is fairly irrelevant as gold is pretty much everywhere, so speed and gank are king, gun handling is highly valuable. The aggressive team almost always wins, unless it's one of "those" maps. TDs tend to be fairly passive in play style, and can't see, so when overrun by fast aggressive packs, after your heavies have fallen due to lack of ideas, it's largely going to be a loss.
That's not to say that TDs can't be effective, just you need to find a good spot. TDs tend to have high pen guns, so if you find a good spot where the opposite team are approaching into your sights, you can have some great shooting galleries.
That said, I don't play TDs anymore, I play fast meds and fast heavies.

I recently rejoined after about 6 years. My favourite tank used to be an M8A1 fwiw, which used to be quite handy, even got one loser screaming hacker at me as I sat hunkered down in a good sniping spot guarding our flag and just shotting them as they approached. One of my team mates commented back, nope he's just better than you. Bearing in mind I'd unlearnt the maps, plus new maps, just couldn't get to grips with the game, even on maps that were fairly familiar to me. To be fair was never especially good at brawling, so uninstalled it and moved on.

Off topic.

Now playing World of Submarines, much simpler game, but you can see the same things occurring you saw in early WoT days. Folks not learning the maps, not picking good route 1 in and out of any battle area, just sitting there in the open like sitting ducks, no situational awareness. To be fair the battle matching is terrible, to the extent that if I go in with a maxed out fully upgraded sub, it's often a turkey shoot, to the extent have started playing low tier subs that aren't particularly upgraded much in order to make it interesting. It's hilarious when you take down a higher tier upgraded monster. To put it in WoT terms,there isn't any fun sitting in a fully upgraded Chieftain clobbering a relative noob in a PanzerIII, yes matching can be that bad. Other way round though, for the LoLs.

[Digger]

World of Submarines?

[Hedobot]

I assume World Of Warships, which I believe has added submarines..

I doubt he's playing Silent Service on an Amiga, but possible

Used to love Silent Service on my old ST

[Digger]

I did wonder if he was referring to WoWs.

[FiF]

that seems to have raised some off topic interest.

Nope, not WoW, World of Submarines, GD Company on Android link

If you read feedback some of the review comments it backs up the criticisms I made. Nowhere near as sophisticated ( is that a valid description?) as WoT or WoW, but it's OK for a bit of brain out running around shooting stuff where if you apply a little effort you can usually come out on top even if team mates are poor.

Example of comments
Ptah M
Graphics are great and it's the only arcade submarine game game of its kind. However progression is slow and rng based. Matchmaker often puts you in very uneven games where a very high level player with a low tier but boosted ship will obliterate everything, and the game doesn't tell you who are bots or players. Still there is a bit of skill involved, and submarines look great.

and
John Campbell-White
This is exactly I what searched for ages, so yes you got 5 stars across the board , I like the authenticity of subs etc the adjustment of graphic quality ,the gameplay is great, if i can make a suggestion the price of sub pens could come down abit ,as being an Free to play player in general, it takes ages to add any new subs available. also with the Typhoon ,mike classes etc are counter measures available, perhaps wishful.thinking lol? OH THE MODERATOR IS AN INFERIOR AI! PLEASE Hire People .

Can't say I've particularly noticed bots but there are some players so dumb they could be.

Disagree with the review by one guy complaining about the grind. I tend to dislike pay to win games that are designed to push you towards paying avoid excessive grinding. Tend not to rush up the tiers and get loads of kit but concentrate on upgrading what I have. If I've managed to get a top tier 5 and fully upgraded Astute, along with a couple of other fully upgraded subs and others that are works in progress then the grind can't be that bad. Just bought a tier 3 Russian Kilo, v fast, like a fox running amok in the chickens.

Clearly some folks do spend money, eg Typhoon costs £92.99. Not spent a penny yet.

Now have 3 bases, HQ off somewhere in BVI, No2 Gibraltar, and No3 Falklands, 4 subs in each. Next one will be Cape Town.

Big downside, communication in game is diabolical, AI moderator is a spot on complaint, I got a short ban for swearing, called someone a tosser, and no chat between team mates during a battle, so you cannot control team tactics. Also if someone challenges you to a battle, if you accept without checking what tier first you can be taking a blunt knife to a gun battle.

In game Englebert Endrass ID GDH-4KB send friend request and will send gifts, gold & silver currency, torpedoes, upgrades etc.

[dapprman]

I hope GDCompany are related to Wargaming.net else they could be open to a whole lot of hurt if the latter decides to branch out in that direction - it's not just the game title, the logos and branding also mimic the World of Warships style, still it does look interesting.

[MKnight702]

Checkmate said:

MKnight702 said:

Jeez, what have they done?

I used to love playing tank destroyers, but now they are, at best, capable of delivering a nasty scratch to the enemy tanks paint. They seem to be favouring the charge in regardless firing wildly approach.

What tanks are you playing, and when did you last play that you are comparing it to?
The WoT meta is pretty fluid. Current meta favours fast, high DPM (or burst DPM) tanks. Armour is fairly irrelevant as gold is pretty much everywhere, so speed and gank are king, gun handling is highly valuable. The aggressive team almost always wins, unless it's one of "those" maps. TDs tend to be fairly passive in play style, and can't see, so when overrun by fast aggressive packs, after your heavies have fallen due to lack of ideas, it's largely going to be a loss.
That's not to say that TDs can't be effective, just you need to find a good spot. TDs tend to have high pen guns, so if you find a good spot where the opposite team are approaching into your sights, you can have some great shooting galleries.
That said, I don't play TDs anymore, I play fast meds and fast heavies.

It's all of my TDs, damage from the round appears to be only double figures, penetration is non existent, some games I can fire 10 rounds with 9 hits and maybe 3 pen. It's got to the point where I have about given up playing TD and switched to heavies instead.

[The_Jackal]

Was that a subtle advert?

[FiF]

The_Jackal said:

Was that a subtle advert?

If referring to my post, no definitely not. Clearly folks didn't know about the game so gave good and bad review, that's all. Could do with some more decent players though.

[anonymous-user]

Hedobot said:

I assume World Of Warships, which I believe has added submarines..

I doubt he's playing Silent Service on an Amiga, but possible

Used to love Silent Service on my old ST

That was a great game.

[Condi]

Strange thing just now - went downstairs to watch the F1 and left the game logged in. Came back 2 hours later and it had disconnected, yet when I reconnected to the server my tank was in a battle (not the tank I had been using), and also find myself in a platoon. Someone, or something, had been playing on my account.

I will change my password, but that seems very odd, as my email address isn't shown, and my password is hardly something anyone would guess. Everything was there - all the credits and tanks etc, so why would anyone else play using my account?!

Appears the displayname was also changed to "bogdan_332". Weird.

Edited by Condi on Sunday 23 May 16:58

[Mastodon2]

Your account has definitely been hacked, or your login was sold to someone who thought it was an abandoned account.

You're lucky they didn't change your password as the first thing they did after logging in.

[Condi]

Mastodon2 said:

Your account has definitely been hacked, or your login was sold to someone who thought it was an abandoned account.

You're lucky they didn't change your password as the first thing they did after logging in.

Think I was lucky, tried to reset password online and looked like the account logins had been changed, but going back in via the desktop application was fine, and from there I could change password and set up 2FA.

Phew!

[texaxile]

Bit of a thread bump. X box console version is the subject.

I've recently had a look back at WOT since binning it off after the update 6 came out.

Overall it is actually a good game now, similar to before the disastrous update. Consumables are used regardless of each battle, easy to sort out, each one costs 1600 to use or replace but you can opt to remove from the tank. Crews still limited to 9 skills. Tech tree a bit hard to get to grips with but similar to before.

P2W still very much the case, however there is now the option in WW2 mode (and I think cold War but have not explored that yet) to go for a different kind of game:

AFAIK "Multiplayer" is PVP teams but "Co-Op) is P V Bot teams, The AI is actually very good, they don't follow the lemming trains seen on some maps and can be a challenge, Each team is matched tank for tank.

I'm getting my mojo back now, more often than not a Co op ends in a win, but the multiplayer platform is more balanced now.

[youngsyr]

Anyone still playing on PC?

Started 6 weeks ago and am mostly enjoying it. Would be good to team up with some other PHers to get some semblance of tactics going.

[RobB_]

youngsyr said:

Anyone still playing on PC?

Started 6 weeks ago and am mostly enjoying it. Would be good to team up with some other PHers to get some semblance of tactics going.

It's a great game and can be rewarding but it's also addictive

Not telling you to suck eggs you may know all this but some tips I wish I knew:

• If you're sitting back from the front then patience is a virtue - let them pop out and pick them off when they are in the open
• Watch YouTube for how camouflage, view ranges and side scraping works as I found it invaluable
• Find a tank type/line you like and stick with it to get the enjoyment from the game (there's lots of tanks in a tree which are pants with a gem somewhere along it)

• www.wgmods.net is your friend, it can really boost you in game giving you more information in a battle
• It is P2W (pay to win) so be ok with that - people will shoot "gold" which is expensive ammo they supplement with real money
• If you're on a losing streak and getting anoyed then give it a break and come back later
• A premium tank (real $) can be a good credit booster in game, and give you something fun to play (go with a tank type you enjoy of the same nation you working on so it trains the normal tank crew up too)
• Tier 10 is the target of a line, but players get more skilled the higher you go and they aren't necessarily more enjoyable to play (I prefer T8)

good websites:
https://tanks.gg/list for tank stats and weak points
https://skill4ltu.eu/ for tank equipment and crew skills

[texaxile]

RobB_ said:

It's a great game and can be rewarding but it's also addictive

Not telling you to suck eggs you may know all this but some tips I wish I knew:

• If you're sitting back from the front then patience is a virtue - let them pop out and pick them off when they are in the open
• Watch YouTube for how camouflage, view ranges and side scraping works as I found it invaluable
• Find a tank type/line you like and stick with it to get the enjoyment from the game (there's lots of tanks in a tree which are pants with a gem somewhere along it)

• www.wgmods.net is your friend, it can really boost you in game giving you more information in a battle
• It is P2W (pay to win) so be ok with that - people will shoot "gold" which is expensive ammo they supplement with real money
• If you're on a losing streak and getting anoyed then give it a break and come back later
• A premium tank (real $) can be a good credit booster in game, and give you something fun to play (go with a tank type you enjoy of the same nation you working on so it trains the normal tank crew up too)
• Tier 10 is the target of a line, but players get more skilled the higher you go and they aren't necessarily more enjoyable to play (I prefer T8)

good websites:
https://tanks.gg/list for tank stats and weak points
https://skill4ltu.eu/ for tank equipment and crew skills

I play console and echo these sentiments (although its not possible to mod the console game as I understand it)

Cold War era is fun, higher rewards and there is a premium tank given gratis. From the console perspective, with WW2 they've kind of balanced out the Artillery, and improved the game but matchmaking still sucks a bit. Be interesting to know how the PC format is these days,

From the console perspective, Tier 6/7/ 8 is fun in WW2. Era 1 in Cold War (no artillery, no AGM vehicles and good old fashioned slugfests most of the time. High level Era 1 tanks like the "stbarn" FV4007 can 1 shot a low level Era 1, and it is a grind to improve then tanks a bit more in Cold War, but I do find it more rewarding. There's also Co op mode against bots which gives limited xp and silver, and doesn't affect KD ratios etc.

Cold War also has the "true vision" which means you can see a enemy tank even if it is not yet spotted, which is a bit rubbish at times and tends to favour PC players.