World of Tanks (Vol 2)

[bstb3]

The quality of play does seem to be plumbing new depths right now, and the mediums mission to get the type 62 is making things so much worse.

Jayfish - how could you sell that beautiful Type 59? I so want one of those...

[Jayfish]

bstb3 said:

The quality of play does seem to be plumbing new depths right now, and the mediums mission to get the type 62 is making things so much worse.

Jayfish - how could you sell that beautiful Type 59? I so want one of those...

TBH I should have kept it but I was on horrendous village internet at the time and always shot second in any duel, my winrate pre fibre was 3% below my current....

[Martin_Hx]

Is6 and jagd 8.8 for me, both really good and fun money makers! Bought both really cheap when on offer

[Mastodon2]

Martin_Hx said:

Is6 and jagd 8.8 for me, both really good and fun money makers! Bought both really cheap when on offer

Now that is interesting, from what I can see the IS6 has the same stats for both PC and Xbox - most tanks do, some of the PC buffs and nerfs are late / missing in action, but the Xbox community forum seems to think the IS6 is a bit of a lame duck. IIRC, they thought it was a bit weak on pen for a heavy and didn't really excel at armour or mobility, so neither fish nor fowl. At a heavy discount I'd be interested though.

I've just had a game in my S35 739. For the price of lunch, or a pint and a half of lager, I've got this tank, 3 days premium, a garage slot and some premium ammo. I never really consider premium ammo a selling point on a bundle as they can be bought with silver, but I think I'll have a lot of fun in this. My first match was World of Bounces, I took a cool headed medal and I couldn't have been far off a steel wall, if you can even get those in tier 3 tanks. It's great to fire several dozen rounds and refill the ammo rack for 300 silver too.

I've never played these lower tiers seriously since I graduated away from them about 3000 battles ago, and they can be noob central, but I think I'll enjoy trashing them in my FCM36 and S35 739.

Does anyone else bother with the lower tiers? I find the higher tiers to be like armoured chess, where the lack of mobility leads to tactics and gameplans. The lower tiers can feel a bit more like a skill / reaction game at times, particularly when you're trying to hit a 2 man scout tank at a range of 550m, as it travels downhill at 55kmph...

[Dr Banjo]

Low tiers for me as for me the maps dont scale as you go up the tiers.

My highest tier tank is the Tiger at 7 which obviously meets Tier 9 on bad days but dont play it that often. Dont massively enjoy those games

I just feel that that Tier 5 there or thereabouts works best with this BigWorld engine and the sodding maps. Heck a T5 Grille can shoot across all of the maps ..

No desire to grind up to tier 10 when I can "now and then" have fun at T3 --> T5

[Martin_Hx]

Is6 can bounce alot, it's not thick but is well angled, so is brilliant in the right hands! the gun requires you to aim for weak spots and has high alpha, the people who say is crap can go buy the point and click no skill T34 :-P

Personally I think it's good and a decent brawler, the 8.8 prints money if you can play non turret tds

[Beati Dogu]

The IS-6 is the only tier 8 I would actually buy.

[tomash]

Mastodon2 said:

Right you noobs, who has the biggest Dicker Max? Is there a bigger wallet warrior than me here?

Can't beat your list but please accept my humble offering.

I have:-
T2 - Small but very fun
KV-220 - Nice T5 brawler heavy, fun in urban areas, good for cool headed and steel wall
T26E4 - Slow medium actually its a semi heavy, I seem to be almost resanoable in this one.
IS-6 - Better than a stock IS3 worse than a full spec IS3

So VBRJ have a TS if you want details PM me or ask in chat.

[Alan O'Hagan]

jimmyjimjim said:

The advantage of the racing is that it's a quick crew trainer for the American light line. 10 wins in, I've a 150% crew. If you get the 50 wins under your belt, you get extra xp.

Edited by jimmyjimjim on Wednesday 1st October 15:39

Racing pro tip. Put controlled impact on your driver and equip a light spall liner and become a veritable ramming missile. It adds a whole new dimension of fun to this mode. It really is hilarious to smack someone for 150 to 200 damage while only scraping your own paintwork. It works great when you jump lanes at the ramps and they come barrelling over and smash into you and end up spitting teeth.

Re premium tanks. I am afraid I am to be counted amongst the more wallety of the wallet warriors. Not counting the silly little gift tanks and such, I must have all the premium tanks except for the FCM 50T, the Excelsior and the 112, the KV5 and ofcourse the Type 59

Edited by Alan O'Hagan on Thursday 2nd October 09:05

[Big Pants]

TX1 said:

Yes there are some arses at the moment, couple days back was platooning with bigpants and one of our teammates who was very keen always rushing ahead to get his kills and not really thinking took it out with arty, tried to shoot the arty but took shot too quick cos I knew this tt would be dead if I did not shoot in time, anyway I missed and this idiot started calling me noob etc.
Anyway big pants got stuck into him big time, great having platoon friend coming to the rescue.

Pleasure. I'm loving the platooning when I get time - work is pretty demanding so finding much time is tricky - but when I do get the chance I'm a big believer in a "Three Musketeers" mentality for VBRJ platoons. All for one and one for all!

[superlightr]

Got a few prem Sir ! Love the Pz 2 J


105leFH18B2 french arty


German
T15
Pz II Auft J rare
pz IV Hydrostat T5 not common
pz IV Schmalturm
pz s35 739 (f)
Dicker Max
E25
Jagtiger 88

UK
Excelsior
Tog 2

Yank
T2 Light Tank
Ram II

USSR
Tetrach
Maltilda IV
Churchill III
IS6

Jap
Type 97 Te-Ke

[superlightr]

Alan O'Hagan said:

Re premium tanks. I am afraid I am to be counted amongst the more wallety of the wallet warriors. Not counting the silly little gift tanks and such, I must have all the premium tanks except for the FCM 50T, the Excelsior and the 112, the KV5 and ofcourse the Type 59

Edited by Alan O'Hagan on Thursday 2nd October 09:05

have you the super rare Pz2 J ???

Edited by superlightr on Thursday 2nd October 13:15

[Alan O'Hagan]

superlightr said:

have you the super rare Pz2 J ???

Edited by superlightr on Thursday 2nd October 13:15

I don't have any of those oddball rarities. I would love a 2J but they are selling on Ebay for well over £100 so I think I will pass.

To be honest I am not entirely sure what low tier premiums I have. Now and then another one pops into existance when WG has a birthday, Christmas or some other random event and I never really look near them, even to sell.

One Tier 4 premium I do have is the German Pz B2. It is the uncommon premium variant of the French tier 4 B1 (basically the Germans captured a B1 and tweaked it for their own use). It isn't generally on sale in the premium shop or for gold but WG do sell it as part of a package from time to time. I do recommend you pick one up if you havent already.

It has a fairly rubbish gun but, and heres the kicker, it gets very preferential Match Making. It can never see a higher tier than 4 (unless you fail platoon). This means you will always be top tier, and your armour is decent against tier 4 guns. Your gun is rapid firing and the underwhelming penetration is mostly adequate against tier 4 opponants. You can spam premium ammo for those more tricky customers like DW2, Valentine and B1s.

Your real nemesis will be the Matilda and tier 4 TDs like the Marder II and SU85B.

These things are especially fun when platooned together. 380 games with 68% win rate can't be wrong.

Many clubs were sealed

[jimmyjimjim]

Alan O'Hagan said:

Racing pro tip. Put controlled impact on your driver and equip a light spall liner and become a veritable ramming missile. It adds a whole new dimension of fun to this mode. It really is hilarious to smack someone for 150 to 200 damage while only scraping your own paintwork.

Yes...I worked this out at about 60% on the skill. Contra-indicated for a light tank, but works well for this racing malarkey.

Amusingly, someone just jumped lanes, then parked at the top of the ramp, blocking me and a team-mate. I fell off (spinning comically in mid air), and raced around to catch up.

The team mate stopped at the top, finished the blocker off, then sniped the cap, the remaining team member managed to survive long enough to help the sniper finish off one of the two enemy remaining and stop the cap, for me to get there and circle long enough to win.

Pro tip 2 - your side armor is much better than your front or rear armor, apparently.

[Mastodon2]

superlightr said:

Got a few prem Sir ! Love the Pz 2 J


105leFH18B2 french arty


German
T15
Pz II Auft J rare
pz IV Hydrostat T5 not common
pz IV Schmalturm
pz s35 739 (f)
Dicker Max
E25
Jagtiger 88

UK
Excelsior
Tog 2

Yank
T2 Light Tank
Ram II

USSR
Tetrach
Maltilda IV
Churchill III
IS6

Jap
Type 97 Te-Ke

That's a pretty good list! In particular I'd like a go in the Schmalturm and the Hydro. The Schmalturn has not been introduced on the Xbox yet, and the Hydro retains it's status as a rare premium, I think it may have had a public sale but only for a very short time.

Another German premium I'd be interested to try is the Panzer V/IV, apparently it can be a bit of a beast due to it's combination of armour and mobility, letting it's otherwise poor gun find flanks for easy damage. The real fun sounds like it's ramming ability; apparently it's size, weight and high speed make it a dangerous ramming tank, especially when using a spall liner and controlled impact. Apparently it's very easy to get the Kamikaze medal through this method, as it's bigger and heavier than some tier 7s, so you can barrel at them and cause massive damage if you connect. Again, this premium was only offered as a gift to beta testers.

Evening update: Holy st, the Jagtiger has evolved! I've got all the top modules on this tank now, and clutch breaking about 47% trained. Due to it's bulk, it's still not that flexible in a tactical sense, but never mind, because when it gets a good scenario, it can seriously dish it out. In my second game with the long 128mm, I scored 5977 damage, 4 kills and 1882 spotting, a new high score for me, taking 1748xp and a Mastery Class 1. This thing cuts through tier 9 armour like butter. Only 207,000xp to go to unlock the Jagdpanzer E-100 for an Xbox achievement, and then I doubt I'll buy it. More than likely, I'll save my money and then horde crew XP on my German heavy crew for a run a the Maus. I'll glad the Jadgtiger turned out not to be a total turd, it's the gun that makes all the difference. Due to premium spamming, I don't think it's the monster it could be, if premium ammo was disabled and you actually had to shoot weakspots it would be a beast.

Edited by Mastodon2 on Thursday 2nd October 21:51

[jimmyjimjim]

Beati Dogu said:

It's really stupid though. There's no skill, you just auto aim.

Oh and you need to buy gold ammo because the standard ammo will mostly bounce.

The best tactic I have found it to jump into the other lane and throw away your tank to delay 2 of theirs. There's no repair costs and your team mates can just cap in 30 seconds flat.

That's reliant on your 2 team mates being able to navigate the circuit, which is of course a stretch for many of these window lickers.

Edited by Beati Dogu on Wednesday 1st October 14:08

The best tactic is, IF you're ahead of two in the other lane at the set of double jumps, is to jump into their lane on the last of the two, then stay ahead of them until the final jump.

At which point you park sideways about 1 tank length before the jump. They can try to avoid you, which usually slows them down enough to miss the jump, brush past you, which slows them down enough to miss the jump or ram you, which slows them down enough to miss the capping.

I've had a couple now where I've knocked two off, got a run up and made the jump myself and helped finish the cap.

After they miss the jump, I usually say something like 'oh dear'.

4 more races then I'm done with it.

[Mastodon2]

How do you guys feel about these special mini game things? I've seen the football and now the racing, do you think they're a worthwhile investment of WG resource, or would you rather see new maps and tanks? New tanks are probably tough to come by, but new maps could be made fairly easily I'd have thought.

I'm just having a quick look through my stats tonight, as it feels like I've been struggling with the Pz. S35 (I haven't according to my stats...) this really is a tank of two halves. I struggle in tier 5 games as I'm used to playing heavies and TDs, I feel the urge to have a cheeky pop at enemies two tiers higher than myself and get into trouble - a TD could do this reliably but the little S35, with it's tier 2 gun, just bounces off tier 5 heavies sides and turrets, even when shooting premium rounds. Instead, I've purchased a camo net and binocs for it, and turned it into a mobile passive spotting post for tier 5 games. When played top tier, this tank is hilarious, it's like a micro-mouse from the front - everything just bounces off it, and the gun shreds - fasest aim time in the game and 2 second reload, but it's fully aimed before the gun is reloaded anyway, so you can just keep throwing them down the pipe at the enemy.

I'm actually really enjoying playing a medium, even if it is a pseudo-heavy as there are no true tier 3 heavies. Quickybaby talks about his gravitating towards mediums due to their flexibility, being a gun wherever a gun is a needed, instead of just picking a side of the map and being so slow to relocate to a collapsing flank. This has got me thinking that I need to get playing some mediums in the future. Possible grind to an E50M or a Leopard 1 on the cards? Which of the two is better? From what I read, they both absolutely rip when played properly.

[Martin_Hx]

I have mostly mediums, much prefer them, Is6 and E75 aside!

[Jayfish]

Lots of effort gets put into areas of the game that not everyone is interested in; Clan Wars, E-Sports tournaments, Historical Battles, Team Battles, Silly sport related stuff, Strongholds...
Personally I just play random battles but I don't feel my choice of game style should deserve more dev time than any other.

[All that jazz]

Mastodon2 said:

Right you noobs, who has the biggest Dicker Max? Is there a bigger wallet warrior than me here? I will list my premiums. Beat my list.

Tier 2: T1E6-X
Tier 3: FCM36Pak40 (and possibly a Pz.Kpfw. S35 739(f) before the end of the day)
Tier 5: Matilda BP, T14
Tier 6: TOGII*, Dicker Max
Tier 7: SU-122-44

That's 7 for me, probably 8 before the day is out. I expect you PC types will have vast fleets of premium gear, let's hear it. Of all of them, they're all great fun apart from the T14, and the Matilda BP is fun but tactically redundant and barely competitive at it's own tier.

My line up is

Tier 3 - BT-SV. Rare gift pack tank. No view range, no armour, no traverse, but fairly nippy with a fast punchy gun and you can have a lot of fun with it in a platoon.

Tier 3 - FCM36Pak40. Only recently purchased this with a 100% crew but tbh not enjoying it at all. View range is comical on maps like Province but that's about where the good stuff ends.

Tier 6 - Boxtank (SU-100Y). Hilarious fun one-shotting the enemies, but if you get spotted it's game over.

Tier 7 - E-25. ELC AMX on steroids with an auto cannon if you fit the rammer. Great little tank and my 2nd favourite after the SU-85B. Get 6th sense on it and load some gold ammo for the higher tiered stuff and nothing will be able to touch you.