World of Tanks (Vol 2)
Discussion
I've just added the T-25 to the garage, it was on sale for 750 silver, so I thought what the hell. I don't know how much I'll enjoy it, I find mediums frustrating at times but I know they are supposed to make you a better player. Playing bottom tier in my S35 has been a big reminder that I can't remind on stealth and huge firepower all the time, so I'm hoping to work on my flanking game with the T-25. It's also another crew trainer, so I now have 4 German premiums, which will net some big bonuses on doubles for crew XP. Time to keep smashing in matches in the premiums until the Porsche line gets introduced.
The T-25 seems to have a great gun, aim time aside, and it's fast. Shame it's a bloody big target and the armour is s
t. Turret traverse is fking awful. Silver earnings are massive though.
This Panzer 38H though, what a laugh. It's practically invincible to autocannons, but that doesn't tend to put most players off. I've already had a few Steel Walls in it, which is amazing for a 160hp tank.
The T-25 seems to have a great gun, aim time aside, and it's fast. Shame it's a bloody big target and the armour is s
t. Turret traverse is fking awful. Silver earnings are massive though.This Panzer 38H though, what a laugh. It's practically invincible to autocannons, but that doesn't tend to put most players off. I've already had a few Steel Walls in it, which is amazing for a 160hp tank.
Edited by Mastodon2 on Monday 20th October 21:27
bstb3 said:
jimmyjimjim said:
You get another 10 hp, iirc, too.
And you don't get wet when it rains. In fairness the closed roof does help slightly on the very rare occasion someone shoots HE at you (unless it's high calibre), but as upgrades go its pretty disappointing. Still I wouldn't rush to the T28 Proto, especially if you haven't got the 105mm AT gun unlocked from the T25AT.The t25/2 is ok plays for me more like a medium than a td - the gun is terribly unreliable.
Liking my su85 (elited, not yet moved on), so mebe the jackson and t25at will do, any recs for another non turret td line? I like stealth sniping..
RobDickinson said:
I might have to go back and do the T25AT line.
The t25/2 is ok plays for me more like a medium than a td - the gun is terribly unreliable.
Liking my su85 (elited, not yet moved on), so mebe the jackson and t25at will do, any recs for another non turret td line? I like stealth sniping..
Can't recommend another TD line but I pretty much live in the Jackson/T25AT/T28. Almost got my 5th crew skill in the T25AT now. Can't wait for the T95!The t25/2 is ok plays for me more like a medium than a td - the gun is terribly unreliable.
Liking my su85 (elited, not yet moved on), so mebe the jackson and t25at will do, any recs for another non turret td line? I like stealth sniping..
Beati Dogu said:
I really rate the T-25. It's quick and has a good gun. 610 hit points isn't too shabby either. Even tier 5 heavy tanks like the KV-1 and T1 Heavy don't get that much.
The only down sides are the slowish turret & the turning circle of an oil tanker.
The T-25 is a decent enough tank. Pretty fast with a good gun. It has well sloped armour and good gun depression so you can use slopes effectively.The only down sides are the slowish turret & the turning circle of an oil tanker.
Just don't try to circle strafe or out turn anyone because as already said, it turns like an oil tanker.
In other news, why didn't anyone tell me how much fun the British mediums are? The Cromwell was great fun, the Comet was a DPM demon and this weekend I got the Centurion Mk1 and early impressions are really good too. I am thouroughly enjoying this tank.
Matchmaker could be kinder. My first 10 games...in a row...all bottom tier games against tier 9 or tier 10
. Still, this thing is more than capable of holding its own in such company.The thing is, I don't really know why. Its a big lug of a thing, sluggish for a medium and poorly armoured generally. However the turret can bounce some shots and it has a really good gun and that makes the difference.
The other good news is the stock grind was basically non existant. All the modules were already unlocked as I had finished the British Heavy grind and most of the modules are shared with that. I only needed to unlock the suspension and top turret which I did with free xp
The British medium line is excellent fun, and the good news is if you like the Centurion 1 then the tier 9 Cent 7/1 just gets better, the top 105mm gun on it is excellent for its tier. They aren't really brawling tanks, but get hull down in a sniping / support position and they are deadly.
It's a nice bonus too that there is so much crossover between the Heavy and Medium lines, makes the grind a lot easier - I did it the other way (meds first, then heavies).
Like Rob I kept my Cromwell as it is just too much fun to sell.
It's a nice bonus too that there is so much crossover between the Heavy and Medium lines, makes the grind a lot easier - I did it the other way (meds first, then heavies).
Like Rob I kept my Cromwell as it is just too much fun to sell.
I kept the Cromwell and Comet but moved the Cromwell crew into the new Centurion 1. With the double crew xp last weekend I managed to grind the commander skill up to 6th sense so that was cool.
Unfortunately my Cromwell has no crew now until a crew retraining event comes along.
My comet crew on the other hand are 50% into their 4th skills! Oh yes!
Unfortunately my Cromwell has no crew now until a crew retraining event comes along.
My comet crew on the other hand are 50% into their 4th skills! Oh yes!
I do all right with the British heavies, but I'm not really a fan of the British mediums above the Cromwell as they're too big & soft for my liking. They're OK when you can use the terrain to your advantage, but so few maps are like that. I still need the top engine on the Centurion 7/1, so I shall reserve judgement on that.
Mind you I wasn't a fan of the Tiger II either at first, but I got the Ace Tanker yesterday, despite being scumbagged.
Replay:
http://wotreplays.com/site/1259186#self
Mind you I wasn't a fan of the Tiger II either at first, but I got the Ace Tanker yesterday, despite being scumbagged.
Replay:
http://wotreplays.com/site/1259186#self
I'm still not sold on this T-25 (not to be confused with the American T-25 
), perhaps it's because I'm not that wild about Mediums, but I can't figure it out. The hull and turret traverse are just st, and I'm not sure about the gun either. The hitpoints are amazing for a medium at tier 5, the armour is on par with it's competitors, and it's fast in a straight line. On the flipside, it's terrible traverse means it has the grace of a bus and cannot dance around heavies picking them to bits - and it's hampered as a sniper by having poor view range, necessitating binocs, and it's a massive target, I had forgotten how big it is, so it struggles to hide when sniping at range.
I'm sure I'll get there, the fact I've just had a few matches bottom tier, finished off with a bottom tier drubbing on Himmelsdorf (where this tank has literally nothing to offer) is getting on my wick. I hear mediums platoon very well, I've seen platoons of mixed meds (Cromwells, Comets, T-25s, T-34s etc) have amazing games, where their combined might could dart around the battlefield where it was needed. Solo medium can be a tough game to play, as lack of armour and unremarkable guns can hamper them. You can hide, flank and play the tactical game for so long, but when the team melts and you're thrown to the lions, it can be hard to salvage some silver and XP from the mess.
), perhaps it's because I'm not that wild about Mediums, but I can't figure it out. The hull and turret traverse are just st, and I'm not sure about the gun either. The hitpoints are amazing for a medium at tier 5, the armour is on par with it's competitors, and it's fast in a straight line. On the flipside, it's terrible traverse means it has the grace of a bus and cannot dance around heavies picking them to bits - and it's hampered as a sniper by having poor view range, necessitating binocs, and it's a massive target, I had forgotten how big it is, so it struggles to hide when sniping at range. I'm sure I'll get there, the fact I've just had a few matches bottom tier, finished off with a bottom tier drubbing on Himmelsdorf (where this tank has literally nothing to offer) is getting on my wick. I hear mediums platoon very well, I've seen platoons of mixed meds (Cromwells, Comets, T-25s, T-34s etc) have amazing games, where their combined might could dart around the battlefield where it was needed. Solo medium can be a tough game to play, as lack of armour and unremarkable guns can hamper them. You can hide, flank and play the tactical game for so long, but when the team melts and you're thrown to the lions, it can be hard to salvage some silver and XP from the mess.
Beati Dogu said:
No, you can't really circle a tank with it. But you can keep popping the turret up & sniping from a distance.
Its standard view range is comparable with the other German tier 5 mediums. I wouldn't put binocs on a medium tank, but optics is always a good choice.
Normally I'd run coated optics on a medium, or a sniper heavy like the Tiger or Tiger II. I thought I'd have a go with binocs as I'd read the T-25 was good for sniping early in the battle then flanking later as the match progressed, but I think I will just end up with coated optics.Its standard view range is comparable with the other German tier 5 mediums. I wouldn't put binocs on a medium tank, but optics is always a good choice.
Even if I never gel with it - I certainly won't fall in love with it like I have with my S35, it only cost about £3.50 and it's worth having for the doubles alone. But I think it's a good thing to have as I'm always concerned about improving my game, even if I try not to pay attention to my stats.
Panther mastery, just had the ideal game for the tank defending Erlenberg, suppourted Heavies down the east and we over whelmed them, rolled round the back took out the Arty and then flanked the remainder who insisted on trying to cap rather than find some cover 
My hit rate was low but most of those we're low percentage shots where I could see a sliver of turret over a hill, the ammo on this thing is cheap.
My hit rate was low but most of those we're low percentage shots where I could see a sliver of turret over a hill, the ammo on this thing is cheap.
Beati Dogu said:
Good one. The Panther still eludes me. It's hard to kill tanks with that needle gun. You usually end up just softening them up for your team to kill, which is what looks like happened to you.
Can you post the replay please?
http://wotreplays.com/site/1260465#erlenberg-jayfish007-pzkpfw_v_pantherCan you post the replay please?
Edited by Beati Dogu on Tuesday 21st October 20:56
996 of the damage was from 300m +
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