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I've been away so done nothing except NFs and a 34 prison earlier in the week.
Interesting about the Spear. I use final round, but never burn ammo to get there. If it 1 shot, kneecap, double downs people then I might try it for trials. I think Final Round is no longer on the roll table, don't know about Iron Banner though.
I have an arc spear and am up for anything later. Still no bloomin' Horsemen though.
Interesting about the Spear. I use final round, but never burn ammo to get there. If it 1 shot, kneecap, double downs people then I might try it for trials. I think Final Round is no longer on the roll table, don't know about Iron Banner though.
I have an arc spear and am up for anything later. Still no bloomin' Horsemen though.
I've done a little this week, but still need to do Nightfall x 1, Weekly Heroic x 2, PoE 34/35 x 3 and PoE 32 x 1.
Been playing a bit of crucible the last week as well, and enjoying it much more with the recent changes. Rewards seem more frequent, though Ive still seen instances where players who have contributed almost nothing to the result get legendaries and the higher end of the board gets nothing! Hadn't used the Mythoclast much until very recently, and it really is still a force to be reckoned with.
Been playing a bit of crucible the last week as well, and enjoying it much more with the recent changes. Rewards seem more frequent, though Ive still seen instances where players who have contributed almost nothing to the result get legendaries and the higher end of the board gets nothing! Hadn't used the Mythoclast much until very recently, and it really is still a force to be reckoned with.
SimianWonder said:
seen instances where players who have contributed almost nothing to the result get legendaries and the higher end of the board gets nothing!
Erm, yeah that will be people like me 
I've picked up at least 3 legendaries from The Crucible despite not really being a top flight assassin. I'm quite good at capturing control points though 
I seem to be doing less and less at the moment now that the level cap has gone up. Done no PoE at all, haven't done the weeklies or even the new strike in normal mode. Trials is out due to low level and lack of experience and Iron Banner will be the same for the same reasons. Managed a NF this week but my alt char will struggle now being a 31 against a now 32 lvl strike. But that's about it as I've spent all my time in The Crucible grinding out the Thorn bounty and finally gaining Bad Juju (yay!)
I'll be on tomorrow doing more of the same and if anyone feels inclined to help in my Crucible quest, I'd welcome that with open arms. Would be nice to do the 3v3 mode, Skirmish I think it is, with a fireteam for a change too.
Need to make a concerted effort though to get at least one char up to 34 else I think it's game over for me as I'll simply be left behind
A Reddit poster commented that Trials of Osiris will quickly evolve into a competition for elite players only, due to the average player getting smashed by the elite players and never returning, leaving the good players to get smashed and not returning and so on.
Seems like it's already going that way from my experience this week, I'd rate myself as only an above average player, but I've teamed up with good players the past two weeks to make a pretty good team and the competition seems to be getting harder. Yesterday I don't think there was one team I played against that didn't have a flawless emblem on at least one player.
Obviously connection quality still has a big impact and is largely down to luck, but I wonder if it's not going to get ridiculously hard over the coming weeks as more and more casual players knock it on the head.
Seems like it's already going that way from my experience this week, I'd rate myself as only an above average player, but I've teamed up with good players the past two weeks to make a pretty good team and the competition seems to be getting harder. Yesterday I don't think there was one team I played against that didn't have a flawless emblem on at least one player.
Obviously connection quality still has a big impact and is largely down to luck, but I wonder if it's not going to get ridiculously hard over the coming weeks as more and more casual players knock it on the head.
Or casual players, like myself, never even attempt it because we just know we'd be completely outclassed, leaving it as end game content only for the top tier of players especially since as well as the skill that is required, having the right guns and gear is important too and casuals are less likely to have the right stuff
I think Iron Banner will be much the same since I can't see how it is any different to Trials of O
I think Iron Banner will be much the same since I can't see how it is any different to Trials of O
Iron Banner is about perseverance, ToO has a time limit to do well during.
I don't really have any issue with some endgame content being more exclusive to the higher skilled players, otherwise there's no incentive to be good at the game and be able to show that off. So far pretty much all endgame content can be done by all players.
I don't really have any issue with some endgame content being more exclusive to the higher skilled players, otherwise there's no incentive to be good at the game and be able to show that off. So far pretty much all endgame content can be done by all players.
Had an awful day in ToO today - even getting shut out!
Wondering if this had anything to do with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDnvGXUu-No
Is that what lag switching looks like?
Wondering if this had anything to do with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDnvGXUu-No
Is that what lag switching looks like?
Agree with all of the above.
There should be content aimed at better players, but that doesn't mean those of lower ability should be shut out. There could be a 3 tier league to ToO based on player's k/d, so you're matched with players of a similar skill level. I also think that people are being more selective with whom they play, as smaller teams mean that there's nowhere to hide, and a 6 man team can afford to have some weaker players, whereas a 3 man can't. By weaker I don't necessarily mean not as good, a person can be really good but not put in as much time, so might not have the best equipment. This for me is harming the social element of the game.
PoE is starting to feel stale for me already. Speck, Penguin and I attempted level 35 today. We failed at the fourth level due to not having the most effective guns (IMO. Not having a Horsemen didn't help). The telling thing is that Speckle's assessment before we started, and one with which I agreed, was that we wouldn't complete, and rage quit. The fact is that we didn't rage quit, we boredom quit. There was no real emotion there, or desire to complete, it just got boring. I felt enthusiastic last week when I got a scout rifle/shotgun/rocket launcher that I liked, and actually felt enthused to get them ranked up. That was the only time since launch (Dead Orbit launcher is a PvP beast straight off the bat if anyone's interested).
The good thing for me is that I've started PvP'ing with my Hunter, and I like it.
There should be content aimed at better players, but that doesn't mean those of lower ability should be shut out. There could be a 3 tier league to ToO based on player's k/d, so you're matched with players of a similar skill level. I also think that people are being more selective with whom they play, as smaller teams mean that there's nowhere to hide, and a 6 man team can afford to have some weaker players, whereas a 3 man can't. By weaker I don't necessarily mean not as good, a person can be really good but not put in as much time, so might not have the best equipment. This for me is harming the social element of the game.
PoE is starting to feel stale for me already. Speck, Penguin and I attempted level 35 today. We failed at the fourth level due to not having the most effective guns (IMO. Not having a Horsemen didn't help). The telling thing is that Speckle's assessment before we started, and one with which I agreed, was that we wouldn't complete, and rage quit. The fact is that we didn't rage quit, we boredom quit. There was no real emotion there, or desire to complete, it just got boring. I felt enthusiastic last week when I got a scout rifle/shotgun/rocket launcher that I liked, and actually felt enthused to get them ranked up. That was the only time since launch (Dead Orbit launcher is a PvP beast straight off the bat if anyone's interested).
The good thing for me is that I've started PvP'ing with my Hunter, and I like it.
Edited by lovechild on Sunday 31st May 20:40
I haven't done close to enough PoE to feel bored of it; I haven't yet touched the 34/35 variants, to my shame!
I didn't get as much done today as I'd have liked, but did pull my third Gjallarhorn in the last six weeks, and this despite not having seen one in six months previous! I also did a two-man run through HM Crota, both of us at level 33, which was actually pretty good fun right up until Crota. Finally got Abyss Defiant from the Bridge (though we did cheese it, I'm ashamed to say!), but Crota was being a finnicky sonofa*****, and seemed a bit laggy. So, he wasn't going down. We called it quits then. Even a 365 Gjally can only do so much when his shields on more than one occasion managed to regen mid-wolfpack rounds.
I didn't get as much done today as I'd have liked, but did pull my third Gjallarhorn in the last six weeks, and this despite not having seen one in six months previous! I also did a two-man run through HM Crota, both of us at level 33, which was actually pretty good fun right up until Crota. Finally got Abyss Defiant from the Bridge (though we did cheese it, I'm ashamed to say!), but Crota was being a finnicky sonofa*****, and seemed a bit laggy. So, he wasn't going down. We called it quits then. Even a 365 Gjally can only do so much when his shields on more than one occasion managed to regen mid-wolfpack rounds.
Finally got to try out ToO today. Bought all 3 buffs, went 9-0 with an unused loss buff. Annoyingly went to The Lighthouse with full emblems so didn't get the Exotic emblem, really annoyed about that. Not to mention getting an Auto Rifle. Oh well.
365 Corrective Measure and VOC and 34 Titan though, so it's not all bad.
365 Corrective Measure and VOC and 34 Titan though, so it's not all bad.
lovechild said:
PoE is starting to feel stale for me already. Speck, Penguin and I attempted level 35 today. We failed at the fourth level due to not having the most effective guns (IMO. Not having a Horsemen didn't help). The telling thing is that Speckle's assessment before we started, and one with which I agreed, was that we wouldn't complete, and rage quit. The fact is that we didn't rage quit, we boredom quit. There was no real emotion there, or desire to complete, it just got boring. I felt enthusiastic last week when I got a scout rifle/shotgun/rocket launcher that I liked, and actually felt enthused to get them ranked up. That was the only time since launch (Dead Orbit launcher is a PvP beast straight off the bat if anyone's interested).
It wasn't the wrong guns, it was the wrong mindset, on my part at least. We'd already been at it for 2 hours and none of us were really in the mood to continue. PoE badly needs checkpoints, so many people can't be bothered to even start an attempt due to the unknown time commitment. Surely they could implement a restriction whereby players can only use a checkpoint if they have already successfully completed all the rounds before it?Edited by lovechild on Sunday 31st May 20:40
The social side is dying for me due to weekends being dominated by ToO, which I have no interest in and the lack of 6 man pve content. or checkpoints for lvl 35 PoE.
I don't feel much incentive to play at the moment. I've had materials to get my warlock to lvl 34 for a week now but, they're still in the vault. The new guns don't excite me at all so, why grind for them? I already have the best guns, 365 Fatebringer, voc, gjallauorn et al.
Iill probably just run night falls and lvl 35 poe (successfully or otherwise) from now on.
Speckle said:
lovechild said:
PoE is starting to feel stale for me already. Speck, Penguin and I attempted level 35 today. We failed at the fourth level due to not having the most effective guns (IMO. Not having a Horsemen didn't help). The telling thing is that Speckle's assessment before we started, and one with which I agreed, was that we wouldn't complete, and rage quit. The fact is that we didn't rage quit, we boredom quit. There was no real emotion there, or desire to complete, it just got boring. I felt enthusiastic last week when I got a scout rifle/shotgun/rocket launcher that I liked, and actually felt enthused to get them ranked up. That was the only time since launch (Dead Orbit launcher is a PvP beast straight off the bat if anyone's interested).
It wasn't the wrong guns, it was the wrong mindset, on my part at least. We'd already been at it for 2 hours and none of us were really in the mood to continue. PoE badly needs checkpoints, so many people can't be bothered to even start an attempt due to the unknown time commitment. Surely they could implement a restriction whereby players can only use a checkpoint if they have already successfully completed all the rounds before it?Edited by lovechild on Sunday 31st May 20:40
The social side is dying for me due to weekends being dominated by ToO, which I have no interest in and the lack of 6 man pve content. or checkpoints for lvl 35 PoE.
I don't feel much incentive to play at the moment. I've had materials to get my warlock to lvl 34 for a week now but, they're still in the vault. The new guns don't excite me at all so, why grind for them? I already have the best guns, 365 Fatebringer, voc, gjallauorn et al.
Iill probably just run night falls and lvl 35 poe (successfully or otherwise) from now on.
I actually think PoE would be better suited to a 6 man team just for sheer drama, so many enemies and players in a closed space, constant deaths and revives, rockets flying, could be awesome.
Davie / teampenguin
We are starting to fracture at the weekends which is sad to see.
The problem is, ToO is a lot of fun. I'm sure that the novelty will wear off especially given the amount of rampant cheating going on. If you guys haven't seen Youngsy's video then I suggest you take a look. Truly shocking.
After a horrific start to ToO on Saturday (
), we went for 4 games:-
1. Flawless
2. 8-1
3. 8-1
4. 8-1
We should have gone flawless on each occasion but were just silly- we didn't buy the mercy on the first 8-1. We then lost a 4-0 lead against a team of average players on the 2nd 8-1 run to finish. When I say that it was a car-crash, I mean, we had won the final round and so I decided to jump through the failed Titan-smash arc wave which took my health down to red and Mars began to dance. A Warlock then self-rezzed...
The pressure was just too much on the last run. Silly mistakes against a team of good players so fair play. Had we of played our usual game it may have been a different result but we didn't rush like we usually do and were perhaps too cautious.
Still, I managed to get to Mercury and bag my second Jewel of Osiris, this time with Solar damage, got the shader, ship, Sol sniper rifle, 42 boots, another scout rifle, the rocket launcher (great perks) and I bought the fusion rifle. I can't really complain at all that.
The problem is, ToO is a lot of fun. I'm sure that the novelty will wear off especially given the amount of rampant cheating going on. If you guys haven't seen Youngsy's video then I suggest you take a look. Truly shocking.
After a horrific start to ToO on Saturday (
), we went for 4 games:-1. Flawless
2. 8-1
3. 8-1
4. 8-1
We should have gone flawless on each occasion but were just silly- we didn't buy the mercy on the first 8-1. We then lost a 4-0 lead against a team of average players on the 2nd 8-1 run to finish. When I say that it was a car-crash, I mean, we had won the final round and so I decided to jump through the failed Titan-smash arc wave which took my health down to red and Mars began to dance. A Warlock then self-rezzed...
The pressure was just too much on the last run. Silly mistakes against a team of good players so fair play. Had we of played our usual game it may have been a different result but we didn't rush like we usually do and were perhaps too cautious.
Still, I managed to get to Mercury and bag my second Jewel of Osiris, this time with Solar damage, got the shader, ship, Sol sniper rifle, 42 boots, another scout rifle, the rocket launcher (great perks) and I bought the fusion rifle. I can't really complain at all that.
Ran a couple of weeklies with Stimps yesterday and that was good fun mainly because I hadn't done the strike before although when we met the boss man for the first time, I did think "hmm, that was over all very quickly" Quite a good strike I thought, a lot more variety than some of them although those arc shielded Wolf Captains are a bit persistent
Played with a random both times and what a difference that makes. First one was a lvl 33 and took a very measured approach and we beat it easily, second one was a 32 with a gung ho, run and gun style and he died, a lot - don't know whether he was trying to speed run it or what, but it didn't work
I've hit 100 Crucible marks for the week for the first time, so that's something different - can't spend them on anything since the Crucible rep is still at 0. Picked up yet another HoW legendary gun, this time the scout rifle which I think I'll re-roll until I get it with Firefly as I don't have a primary with that perk
I too am missing the 6 man strikes although I get there is almost no point (for most) to running them aside from the social side - I'd still like Hunger of Crota and Word of Crota though so if anyone fancies running them, count me in. I can imagine being a 33 or 34 must make HM Crota a piece of cake aside from the glitches. Oh and Fatebringer is still on the wish list too
Quite a good strike I thought, a lot more variety than some of them although those arc shielded Wolf Captains are a bit persistentPlayed with a random both times and what a difference that makes. First one was a lvl 33 and took a very measured approach and we beat it easily, second one was a 32 with a gung ho, run and gun style and he died, a lot - don't know whether he was trying to speed run it or what, but it didn't work
I've hit 100 Crucible marks for the week for the first time, so that's something different - can't spend them on anything since the Crucible rep is still at 0. Picked up yet another HoW legendary gun, this time the scout rifle which I think I'll re-roll until I get it with Firefly as I don't have a primary with that perk
I too am missing the 6 man strikes although I get there is almost no point (for most) to running them aside from the social side - I'd still like Hunger of Crota and Word of Crota though so if anyone fancies running them, count me in. I can imagine being a 33 or 34 must make HM Crota a piece of cake aside from the glitches. Oh and Fatebringer is still on the wish list too
Flat-out said:
The problem is, ToO is a lot of fun. I'm sure that the novelty will wear off especially given the amount of rampant cheating going on. If you guys haven't seen Youngsy's video then I suggest you take a look. Truly shocking.
With the amount of lag in the Crucible anyway, often it's hard to tell whether it's cheating or just a poor connection. I routinely seem to have a half-second to a second delay against opponents - to the extent where I hit a guy with a final round from a sniper and the game takes a second to register the kill.
When it's competitive 3 on 3 Crucible, that half second makes it almost impossible to win.
Of course, sometimes it goes in your favour and you're just a wrecking ball, but I'd much rather it was always a fair connection. There are only 6 people playing in the game, it surely can't be that hard to get a good connection between them?
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