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Moog72

1,598 posts

177 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Speckle said:
We'd already been at it for 2 hours and none of us were really in the mood to continue. PoE badly needs checkpoints, so many people can't be bothered to even start an attempt due to the unknown time commitment.
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Digitalize said:
Ugh this game.

After completing 34 PoE 2 man 33/34 earlier in the week in under an hour, we decided to do it again tonight, after 2 hours stuck on the boss we got another 33 in, 2 more hours and he finally dies. I am drained.
Have to say that does put me off. 4+ hours straight to complete the boss is madness without the ability to take a proper break or come back to it at some point in the future. I personally don't have 4 hours to sit in front of a computer game, any computer game and to get that far and know if you quit, you start all over again from the beginning? No thanks.

We've all spent time trying to take down Crota or Atheon and that's fine (and usually a laugh when trying to do so), but you also have the luxury of knowing that if you don't at least you can come back tomorrow and have another go.

Perhaps this mode is getting a little too hard core for more casual players such as myself, dunno.

Edited by Moog72 on Monday 1st June 09:54

dunmow70

198 posts

163 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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I too am getting a little bored of HoW. PoE has very quickly become a grind. Every weapon I've received so far has been dismantled as they would not replace any of my current sets of (raid) weapons. Lovechild called it right yesterday when he said they peaked too early with the weapons. Maybe they should never have allowed old weapons to be re-leveled?

The only time I completed the level 34 PoE this week was with a team of three titans for bubbles and three max gallys (on the XBox) using the gally-spam method as soon as the fight started. Every other combination of legit attempts, fewer than three level 34s, fewer than three gallys, led to someone rage quitting. It just wasn't fun.

I also agree that the three man teams are having an adverse reaction on the social side of the game. Those doing trials or arena need to communicate a lot, so it doesn't make sense to remain in a party if you're not playing in the game with them.

As I'd rank myself at below average in PvP, Trials isn't for me, but I would be interested in running some six man crucible/IB stuff due to its less serious nature and there being guaranteed rewards for persevering with it (plus I may randomly drop a Gally smile).

youngsyr

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14,742 posts

192 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Anyone know what happened here?

I register a hit of 57 on him with Thorn and he has a sliver of health left, but he doesn't die (Thorn does 21 poison damage after the initial hit) ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kICeE7S1pc

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Going to start running VoG again for better armour rolls to Etheric Light.

Might try Skolas tonight now that we have 3 34s. Sort of wanted to try last night but decided to run Crota because it was quicker.

Gazzas86

1,709 posts

171 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Anyone on this afternoon, from lunchtime? Fancy doing some ToO or raid etc etc?

Moog72

1,598 posts

177 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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youngsyr said:
Anyone know what happened here?

I register a hit of 57 on him with Thorn and he has a sliver of health left, but he doesn't die (Thorn does 21 poison damage after the initial hit) ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kICeE7S1pc
Hard to tell, but would seem to be a classic case of lag, hits not registering correctly or something. What sort / speed of internet connection do you have?

I've not seen any noticeable instances of this sort of lag behaviour in my time in the Crucible. The only time I have seen it was the bridge section of the Crota raid where the thrall would occasionally teleport across the map or judder whilst walking, but that doesn't make much difference whereas it clearly does in something like the ToO. It could be down to the quality of connection of the opponent too

youngsyr

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14,742 posts

192 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Moog72 said:
youngsyr said:
Anyone know what happened here?

I register a hit of 57 on him with Thorn and he has a sliver of health left, but he doesn't die (Thorn does 21 poison damage after the initial hit) ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kICeE7S1pc
Hard to tell, but would seem to be a classic case of lag, hits not registering correctly or something. What sort / speed of internet connection do you have?

I've not seen any noticeable instances of this sort of lag behaviour in my time in the Crucible. The only time I have seen it was the bridge section of the Crota raid where the thrall would occasionally teleport across the map or judder whilst walking, but that doesn't make much difference whereas it clearly does in something like the ToO. It could be down to the quality of connection of the opponent too
I have fibre to the cabinet broadband, a test just now returned 30ms Ping, 55Mb down, 16Mb up.

The more I play Crucible, the more I see weird stuff happening, especially in ToO, where you'd hope lag would be lower with only 6 people playing in a match. frown

Today I went 10-0 before my first Death in Crucible, so well into the second match before I was even killed. In the third match I went 1-8, there's simply no way my playing standard dropped that much over the course of 1 match. Truth is I'm neither a 10-0 nor a 1-8 player, but somewhere in between and it's the connection skewing the results, which is really frustrating in a competitive game mode like ToO. frown

And it's certainly not my internet that's at fault!




Edited by youngsyr on Monday 1st June 12:46

lovechild

912 posts

158 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Speckle said:
It wasn't the wrong guns, it was the wrong mindset, on my part at least.
I think it was both. The ideal load out seems to be based around 4th Horsemen. You were the only one with it, so if you died before/during the target, it was too hard to kill him. If either Penguin or I died, you could kill the target but succumb to the ads. At least that's my interpretation of it.

Moog72

1,598 posts

177 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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PSN network down for maintenance, which also knackers being able to play Destiny frown

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Moog72 said:
PSN network down for maintenance, which also knackers being able to play Destiny frown
https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/explore/playstat...

?

But does seem like it's down for everyone. Really hoping there's no malicious reason.

Moog72

1,598 posts

177 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Digitalize said:
https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/explore/playstat...

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But does seem like it's down for everyone. Really hoping there's no malicious reason.
This webpage was saying all was fine when I checked it about 45 mins ago when I noticed it was down, but now it does look like there are issues

https://status.playstation.com/en-us/

paul99

800 posts

243 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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I should be online later, hoping to do a 32 PoE if anyone's about and needs to run it aswell?

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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SimianWonder

1,144 posts

152 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Did 32 PoE in around thirty minutes with a team of three 33s - one hunter and two titans, one of which was myself - earlier, was nice and straightforward. Urrox? Solar Burn? Pfft. Between two Gjallarhorns, three Abyss Defiants and an Ice Breaker he didn't last long at all, and two Wards of Dawn specced for Blessing of Light made his rage attack nothing more than a trivial inconvenience.

We then decided to hit level 34. For myself and one other, this was our first foray into a 34 PoE. Straight into a boss? Okay, he's a big minotaur bullet sponge. Took a while but got him down. Onwards. Mines? Done. Next. Another boss, a big servitor? Okay, another bullet sponge. Dead, move on. Round 4 was tough. Really tough. I'm not sure if progress is identical for everyone, but we ended up with two targets to eliminate. Thing is, the target Minotaur is level 35, and spawns with one other level 35 Minotaur as well as two or three others at level 34. And we're all 33s, so they kill us very quickly whilst our damage output is severely reduced. After around an hour of different approaches, we got through both elimination round by popping a Helm of St 14-enhanced Weapons of Light over his spawn point and using shotguns to try and take him down quickly. Finally, done.

Onto the boss! A Vex Gate Lord? Fun. Except we're all dead within seconds. One of the other guys in the team has run this before, but also failed at this hurdle, so he explains the mechanics. Which, quite frankly, seemed a bit broken. Another hour of failed attempts (nothing seems able to burst the detainment fields, even with the buff) we youtube a few successful attempts. Most of which involve bursting the boss down with Gjallarhorn. Two of us have Gjally, the other has Truth. We give it a go. A couple of rockets miss the boss - Truth wasn't upgraded, so no tracking - and its user dies, leaving two Gjallys in an ultimately futile attempt at boss-killing. Two 33s simply don't have the firepower to kill him before the debuff kills us. A short while later, feeling a touch frustrated, the Mrs called to ask me to come and pick her up. I was actually glad for the excuse to call that a day.

End result, I'm still sitting on three 33s, and two weeks after HoW dropped, I still haven't seen a single piece of etheric light, nor beaten 34 / 35 PoE. Roll on Iron Banner! :P

lovechild

912 posts

158 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Bad luck Sims. But what the hell is a level 33 doing with an unmaxed Truth? Fair enough if it's his best launcher but surely he's had it longer than a week or two. If a random turned up with that, I'd be annoyed. He may just have had bad RNG luck, but it's been sold before and not exactly rare.

We did it with 3 hunters, and as long as you gjally him on the way in you only need to survive 1 containment. The trickiest part was that the wolfpacks would kill the second 'eye buff minotaur thing' too early and the 2nd buff would run out before the containment shields appeared.

That was the first Destiny encounter that 2 of us were getting bored and starting to think that there's better things we could be doing. It was only after that we both mentioned we nearly said we were quitting.

Moog72

1,598 posts

177 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Gotta love the new weapon reforging process. Took an already decent-ish roll HoW scout rifle and rolled it (eventually) with Luck in the Chamber, High Caliber or Armour Piercing Rounds and Firefly

Suspect that this will become my new favourite weapon for a while whilst I get back to PvE bounties and such to upgrade the bugger biggrin

Ended up quite expensive at something like 15 motes, 4000 odd glimmer and about 40 weapon parts but I really wanted Firefly!

Keep up at the back and all that, but my Hunter is now the grand old level of 32, oh yes - full HoW armour saw to that and in a testament to not playing when you've had a few, I still don't know how I acquired the helmet, chest or boots that I logged in one day and saw him wearing whistle

Speckle

3,452 posts

216 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Bad luck indeed! We even found that having a 2 x lvl 34s with maxed gallys and a lvl 33 with an unmaxed gallys wasn't anough for the lvl 34 boss. Gazza upgraded to lvl 34 mid attempt and, hey presto, 2nd attempt after that was successful. You really need the levels and firepower for the rocket strategy to work.

All I seem to be reading about PoE are tales of frustration and giving up after hours upon hours of failed attempts. This can't be what they intended surely? I think people will get very bored, very quickly and will stop even trying before long. I mean, who wants to spend 4hrs + on what might ultimately be a futile attempt without any save points to try again the next day?

AlexHat

1,327 posts

119 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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The level 28 and 32 PoE are relatively nice, the 34 which I've tried once at level 33 is, at least last week when I tried it, far harder compared to the 32 (which I don't mind, obviously it can't be so easy to get Etheric Light right?) I just had boss fight after boss fight and we all quit after about an hour on the end boss, not what I think was planned for everyone to do

Moog72

1,598 posts

177 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Good news rolleyes the NF this week is the Archon Priest (AGAIN) and the weekly heroic is Omnigul (AGAIN)

NF burns are arc, solar and it also has the primary weapon damage preferred modifier

Brawler is the only modifier on the weekly

What happened to all of the other strikes that are out there?

Flat-out

832 posts

195 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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I have 11 bits of Etheric Light with nothing to do with them. These are going to quickly become the new Ascendant Shards. I could upgrade some new HoW armour (to be different) but the perks are usually rubbish. Nearly everybody still uses the CE boots for the extra rockets etc.

Still. IB is here. Don't forgot to equip the shader, class item and emblem for the XP boost. shoot

I'm more likely than ever to delete a character and start a Titan as I'm getting bored. Anybody fancy starting over?! It'll probably be after this IB week. I NEED the new hunter cape. smile