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SimianWonder said:
I. Hate. Rift.
Played eleven games in IB today, not won a single one. It's been an exercise in frustration.
I'm the complete opposite; really enjoyed it.Played eleven games in IB today, not won a single one. It's been an exercise in frustration.
Seems like the only times I've seen complete randoms play the objective.
You have to adjust your load out though, ultra speed if your going to run, or ultra tanky if you're going to block.
Dick Dastardly said:
Anyone fancy a go on this Crimson Doubles today? I had a blast doing IB for the weekend last month and this Crucible mode is chucking out 320 ghost shells as rewards, amongst legendary and exotic stuff. There's no level advantages so you can use year one guns.
I've been away and it finishes in the morning but I'm around most of today.
Apparently they messed up the loot drop chances (way too low) so are now guaranteeing everyone who completes the quest (finish 7 matches, win or lose) a 320 ghost at the post master on the 23rd. So, if you're at all bothered about levelling up it's a good way to do it.I've been away and it finishes in the morning but I'm around most of today.
Also, it's quite a lot of fun. I finished it on all three characters with randoms and it's a really good game mode, if a little "sweaty" at times. Getting the hand of the speed of movement when you're buffed takes a little practice!
mike62 said:
youngsyr said:
No love on here fore the new Iron Rising DLC? Looks reasonably impressive and I haven't played since before the last update, so there should be a bit for me to do.
Leaving behind the PS3 should make for a better experience too.
Not for those of us with only a PS3Leaving behind the PS3 should make for a better experience too.
There are rumours of a PS4.5 / PS4K release being announced this month, if that does happen you'll probably find a lot of used PS4s going cheap on Ebay.
Edited by youngsyr on Tuesday 14th June 09:26
So what's the deal with levelling up - picked up my old 317 Warlock yesterday and ground out to level 5 IB, but no items dropped higher than my existing gear and vendor gear is only level 280?!
Played through level 41 Prison of Elders today, no higher gear dropped.
So, I'm still at 317 after several hours of playing "End Game" content?
Played through level 41 Prison of Elders today, no higher gear dropped.
So, I'm still at 317 after several hours of playing "End Game" content?
zeDuffMan said:
youngsyr said:
So what's the deal with levelling up - picked up my old 317 Warlock yesterday and ground out to level 5 IB, but no items dropped higher than my existing gear and vendor gear is only level 280?!
Played through level 41 Prison of Elders today, no higher gear dropped.
So, I'm still at 317 after several hours of playing "End Game" content?
RNG wasn't on your side if you played at 317 and nothing dropped above that. The lvl 3 package from IB is a guaranteed 320 artefact...Played through level 41 Prison of Elders today, no higher gear dropped.
So, I'm still at 317 after several hours of playing "End Game" content?
Lvl 41 PoE drops at maximum 315.
You need to get into the Challenge of Elders for up to 335 gear. Or play lots of lvl 28 PoE, hoarde Strange Coins, cash them in for Three of Coins with Xur on Fri/Sat, and grind for exotic engrams. These can decrypt 335 as well, and you can use these as infusion fuel.
Bit long winded but don't need to raid for it. I've never done a raid (although would like to) and have two characters at 335.
Edited by zeDuffMan on Tuesday 5th July 13:12
I only had 2 or 3 IB drops and they were all either at or below the item I had equipped at the time.
How do you do Level 42 Challenge of Eldars (recommended level 320) when you can't drop items above 317?
I'm not interested in grinding - I did that to death on previous light levels.
SimianWonder said:
youngsyr said:
If you only get gear that's around 5 light levels more than your current set, surely it will take an age to make any real progress?
Is the highest light level now 335? That's too much grinding old content for me.
Yes, the April update raised the cap to 335 and whilst getting there may require a bit of patience, getting to 330 is relatively easy and certainly doesn't take an age. Why? One of the things the update changed was how you are rewarded; as previously mentioned, it will drop loot slightly higher than your current level. Secondly, there are numerous ways to get said loot now. King's Fall Hard Mode and Challenge of Elders will drop armour and weapons up to 335 light. King's Fall Normal Mode will drop up to 320 (which bearing in mind even the toughest encounters are a max of 300 light makes it far easier than it once was), Nightfall can drop exotics up to 335 and legendaries up to 330. Faction packages (be it Crucible, Vanguard, House Judgement etc) can drop items up to 330. If you've got a surplus of Motes of Light, you can trade five motes for 100 rep with your chosen faction (FWC, Dead Orbit, New Monarchy) so if, like me, you've had hundreds in your vault you can burn through a few of those to get easy reward packages. Gunsmith quests are worthwhile as well, they too will drop weapons up to 330 for simply ranking up.Is the highest light level now 335? That's too much grinding old content for me.
Three of Coins can also be used to acquire exotic drops from Ultras, and seem to have a drop rate of roughly one in five / six. Decrypted exotics will pretty regularly drop at 5 light levels higher than your current average, and CoE gives three bosses to fight, so you are highly likely to get at least one exotic for half an hour / forty minutes play.
Basically, if you're playing even semi regularly (say one hour a day) you've got several relatively easy ways to get your light level up in no time at all. (See, also, Moog's post above - thirty light levels in three weeks.)
This coupled with the extremely limited amount of new content is not really appealing.
Re the auto rifles, try Suros Regime on the larger maps (remember to waste the first half of the magazine immediately on spawn) and Hard Light on the smaller more confined maps.
With Hard Light you can shoot around corners and hit someone with your rebounded missed shots if you're inside a tight room/tunnel.
I still need to do kill Oryx on hard I think, I absolutely cannot stand any jumping tasks - whoever thought including them in a game where there are 6 or 7 different jumping mechanics across the character is a sadist!
With Hard Light you can shoot around corners and hit someone with your rebounded missed shots if you're inside a tight room/tunnel.
I still need to do kill Oryx on hard I think, I absolutely cannot stand any jumping tasks - whoever thought including them in a game where there are 6 or 7 different jumping mechanics across the character is a sadist!
Iron Banner last week was a lot of fun when it wasn't an absolute lag-fest - there's still no game that can match Destiny's gun play, IMO.
The amount of progression available through IB alone seems limited though - it rarely dropped anything other than boots and sniper for me, which means once you have the maximum level drop available (5 levels above your average) at your current level for both items, if you don't tick over into the next light level, you can't progress any further until you get the level 5 reward and even then you might get a duplicate sniper or boots.
So, despite getting all my characters to level 5 with plenty of drops, I still couldn't get any of them above level 325.
The amount of progression available through IB alone seems limited though - it rarely dropped anything other than boots and sniper for me, which means once you have the maximum level drop available (5 levels above your average) at your current level for both items, if you don't tick over into the next light level, you can't progress any further until you get the level 5 reward and even then you might get a duplicate sniper or boots.
So, despite getting all my characters to level 5 with plenty of drops, I still couldn't get any of them above level 325.
SimianWonder said:
Basically, King's Fall is a very technical Raid that demands near perfection in execution to complete. Thing is, it leaves a very sour taste in the mouth when you and your team are able to nail the mechanics but are denied by one of said mechanics suddenly going a bit wonky. Bungie seem to demand perfection from us, but are unable to give the same back.
And that just seems unfair.
Visually and conceptually Kings Fall is amazing, but I agree that making the Oryx encounter an exercise in getting 6 people to co-ordinate perfectly for 15-30 minutes is adding difficulty from the wrong aspect.And that just seems unfair.
It makes it very difficult to play in a public group with randoms and causes a lot of frustration. Even at level 335 with the perfect gear and the perfect group class make up, one small mistake from any one of the 6 of you means a wipe and start again. It's for this reason that I didn't even bother attempting it the first time around at levels below 315.
VoG had it right in my opinion - painfully difficult (after they fixed pushing Atheon off the platform glitch) in the early days, but as you get more experienced in the mechanics and got better gear you could carry the odd mistake.
Digitalize said:
IB is still monthly, just everyone's playing less so it seems more often.
PvP is the main thing people do on Destiny now, it's a massive part of the game, and I'm glad ROI is adding more to it, custom games are going to be a good laugh and the new game mode looks good fun.
Yeah in the original road map D2 'should' have been out next month, that quickly changed when they realised how much they could expand this game, and what they need to learn and redevelop. I imagine originally D2 was going to be a COD style new game where it's really just a big expansion, running on basically the same game underneath, but I think they've gone back to the drawing board to change a lot of how the game works fundamentally and is coded, to make it a better game overall. Remember the heavy ammo bug? Supposedly D1 is coded in a way that's very interconnected so fixing bugs can take a long time to make sure something else hasn't been broken in the process.
Plus if they're taking their time so it's fleshed out, to a level that D1 now is, with dedicated servers (or both, dedicated for light dependant serious stuff) and 60fps, then it's fine by me. That's my wish list at least.
Call me cynical, but delays in releases are never about putting out the best product - they're about not having a playable product by the deadline and needing more time to get something that is at least acceptable. Like all other games, Destiny releases have been delayed in the past and they've still not delivered everything that the player base has been complaining about for months previously.PvP is the main thing people do on Destiny now, it's a massive part of the game, and I'm glad ROI is adding more to it, custom games are going to be a good laugh and the new game mode looks good fun.
Yeah in the original road map D2 'should' have been out next month, that quickly changed when they realised how much they could expand this game, and what they need to learn and redevelop. I imagine originally D2 was going to be a COD style new game where it's really just a big expansion, running on basically the same game underneath, but I think they've gone back to the drawing board to change a lot of how the game works fundamentally and is coded, to make it a better game overall. Remember the heavy ammo bug? Supposedly D1 is coded in a way that's very interconnected so fixing bugs can take a long time to make sure something else hasn't been broken in the process.
Plus if they're taking their time so it's fleshed out, to a level that D1 now is, with dedicated servers (or both, dedicated for light dependant serious stuff) and 60fps, then it's fine by me. That's my wish list at least.
Destiny has got a lot better at this over the past year or so, but it seems that the current norm is for AAA games to be released absolutely full of bugs and for these to only be ironed out after months of play testing by the community, it started back with BF4 as far as I can tell, then Destiny wasn't too bad, but had its content cut significantly and it's now continuing with The Division.
Moog72 said:
Mattygooner said:
I thought the light limit was 385 but someone just dropped a hand cannon in the crucible at 387!!
Upper light level is 400 (HM Raid). Perhaps they forgot to implement the 385 soft cap in the meantime, dunnoSpeckle said:
Count me in for a raid attempt this week.
And you can count me out - I'm just not progressing up the scale at the moment and stuck back on 350 at the very best. Got Sepiks Perfected done yesterday evening with some randoms and it wasn't very enjoyable - why is everyone obsessed with speed running things? Especially when they speed run up to the walker and then die in a difficult to revive location 
Have you people never heard of sniper rifles or something? Last guardian standing ...Onwards to the heroic strike playlist, need some drops - Bond Brothers, crap. With this week's burns, almost impossible I'd say. Boss room and everyone dies left right and center, over and over again. The two randos quit, I sit down and wait, two more join. Everyone dies again, one rando quits after just one attempt! Two of us have another few goes, yep, we both die again and again. Call it a night, waste of blummin' time
If it works like I think it does, I think 6 level 350s could get through the first stage, not sure if you get any rewards for it though.
The grind seems to be back with a vengeance in The Rise of Iron - what exactly do you have to do to get a Ghost above level 350?!! 
I've got one character up to level 5 Iron Banner plus another one sitting at level 3, but the second one I'm only playing for the chance to get a Ghost and I've only seen 2 drop in that entire time, neither for me.
I genuinely can't be bothered to keep replaying the same content only to see my light level go up two to three points/sub-levels every hour - I must have sunk around 15 hours into the game since the update and I'm still only at level 359. At this rate, I might be ready for the Raid by Xmas!
I've got one character up to level 5 Iron Banner plus another one sitting at level 3, but the second one I'm only playing for the chance to get a Ghost and I've only seen 2 drop in that entire time, neither for me.
I genuinely can't be bothered to keep replaying the same content only to see my light level go up two to three points/sub-levels every hour - I must have sunk around 15 hours into the game since the update and I'm still only at level 359. At this rate, I might be ready for the Raid by Xmas!
Digitalize said:
There is only a chance of a ghost from a faction package, there's more chance of a class item dropping as there's more of them.
Bearing in mind your ghost has to be 10 light below everything else to be holding you back 2 light levels, it usually seems worse than it is.
My Ghost is 350, my other gear is 360-362, so it must be holding me back at least one light level, possibly 2.Bearing in mind your ghost has to be 10 light below everything else to be holding you back 2 light levels, it usually seems worse than it is.
I guess you're right though - even if I dropped a 360 ghost, I'm still only going to be 361 at best and I'm not sure I can be bothered to grind out strikes to raise my level any further.
Flat-out said:
It is- I find HDR to be a bigger deal than 4k in all honesty. As for Netflix, I'm looking forward to seeing what the fuss is about- have earmarked House of Cards and that one with the creepy kids. Happy to hear suggestions.
Heard that the download is 68GB.
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Breaking Bad is excellent if you haven't seen it, as is the spin off Better Call Saul.Heard that the download is 68GB.
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The first season of Fargo is worth a watch too.
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