Destiny (Xbox One)
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1, I don't think that Crota is glitched, I do think there are niggles with prolonged game play in one area.
2, Well done to all of us that completed the raid over the weekend, showing patience and tenacity.
3, I am amazed the way some teams kill Atheon - wow wow wow, helped Irrational last night, we could have killed him 10 times over if we had done it our way.
4, Need 2 more runs at the big daddy crota on hard if possible.
Got the hand cannon, shards, energies and the mighty No mans land.
2, Well done to all of us that completed the raid over the weekend, showing patience and tenacity.
3, I am amazed the way some teams kill Atheon - wow wow wow, helped Irrational last night, we could have killed him 10 times over if we had done it our way.
4, Need 2 more runs at the big daddy crota on hard if possible.
Got the hand cannon, shards, energies and the mighty No mans land.
Innocent - yes they seemed pretty against the centre strategy - I wonder if they have had bad experiences with pickup groups or something because I can't see how their way could ever be any easier/better. Aetheon was jigging about like a mad thing.
Tank - VoG is still the best way to get ASS shards - I assumed Bungie were relying on that to keep people interested..But if those people have a big stockpile already ;-)
To cheer you all up, and make you feel better about your hard fought victories over the glitches...here are people two-manning Crota on Hard! As ever Fatebringer and G-Horn seem the weapons of choice!
Ironically the person recording the video doesn't look *that* good as he misses a few "easy" headshots with the sniper and doesn't get his 3 shot re-fill bonus. (Especially on second sword bearer).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3EWZkLqzVE&fe...
Tank - VoG is still the best way to get ASS shards - I assumed Bungie were relying on that to keep people interested..But if those people have a big stockpile already ;-)
To cheer you all up, and make you feel better about your hard fought victories over the glitches...here are people two-manning Crota on Hard! As ever Fatebringer and G-Horn seem the weapons of choice!
Ironically the person recording the video doesn't look *that* good as he misses a few "easy" headshots with the sniper and doesn't get his 3 shot re-fill bonus. (Especially on second sword bearer).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3EWZkLqzVE&fe...
InnocentShadows said:
1, I don't think that Crota is glitched, I do think there are niggles with prolonged game play in one area.
2, Well done to all of us that completed the raid over the weekend, showing patience and tenacity.
3, I am amazed the way some teams kill Atheon - wow wow wow, helped Irrational last night, we could have killed him 10 times over if we had done it our way.
4, Need 2 more runs at the big daddy crota on hard if possible.
Got the hand cannon, shards, energies and the mighty No mans land.
Count me in for tonight. I'll be on around 8 ish for a few hours..... sucker for punishment.2, Well done to all of us that completed the raid over the weekend, showing patience and tenacity.
3, I am amazed the way some teams kill Atheon - wow wow wow, helped Irrational last night, we could have killed him 10 times over if we had done it our way.
4, Need 2 more runs at the big daddy crota on hard if possible.
Got the hand cannon, shards, energies and the mighty No mans land.
tankslappa said:
Additional nodes to increase exotic damage levels would be a guess, and should have been in place the last time around.
I would like to see the next raid start at level 32, and anyone who isn't at level 32 to be at a big disadvantage when attempting it. Vanguard gear should be kept at 31 max, they cant reverse this now.
They need to force players through the levelling process by way of playing the raids. They got it drastically wrong with Crotas End. The VoG became a ghost town overnight when you could buy your way straight to level 31.
They could even add another difficulty to the VoG to drop armour to get you to level 32. Then at least there will be 2 methods to get there.
There are plenty of players at level 30+ who haven't even stepped into the VoG on normal. Which is a real shame because the its still the best content and most fun to be had playing Destiny.
Only issue with making progress related to conetibg the raids is that not everyone can commit to the time it takes to complete raids. This would then mean the game would be dead to me. I would like to see the next raid start at level 32, and anyone who isn't at level 32 to be at a big disadvantage when attempting it. Vanguard gear should be kept at 31 max, they cant reverse this now.
They need to force players through the levelling process by way of playing the raids. They got it drastically wrong with Crotas End. The VoG became a ghost town overnight when you could buy your way straight to level 31.
They could even add another difficulty to the VoG to drop armour to get you to level 32. Then at least there will be 2 methods to get there.
There are plenty of players at level 30+ who haven't even stepped into the VoG on normal. Which is a real shame because the its still the best content and most fun to be had playing Destiny.
phil-sti said:
Only issue with making progress related to conetibg the raids is that not everyone can commit to the time it takes to complete raids. This would then mean the game would be dead to me.
I think the way checkpoints work is there so you don't have to do all of a raid in one go, not just to save progress. To make them even more accessible for those that don't get on for hours they could add matchmaking but that brings more potential problems although nothing that can't be fixed with a vote to boot/kick option.
What did you guys do at Ogres? Still trying to do a simultaneous takedown like during the first few nights with a few people in each room or the more popular everyone into the right room, kill the first and snipe the second
InnocentShadows said:
1, I don't think that Crota is glitched, I do think there are niggles with prolonged game play in one area.
This is funny http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2t...REDDIT said:
Crota here.
Good news! Bungie patched my arthritis/knee glitch for Hard Mode and I'm finally able to stand up again. And since Guardians can no longer cheese me, its time for us to cheese some Guardians!
I'll be on XBL all weekend cheesing Guardians, and I'll have plenty of open fireteam slots for any level 33 Hive looking for some easy loot drops. I have the HM CE Guardian checkpoint on all 3 toons. We are going to be exploiting a long list of known glitches to cheese Guardians, so minimal playing skill is required. Just join up and get your loot drops.
First, a few ground rules. I'm only taking level 33's. Don't even message me if you're 32. Why? Well because it's a level 32 raid and Guardians are capped at level 32. So, we’ll just be 33, get a damage buff and we’ll take 30% less damage. I mean, LOL, right? I know, I can't believe we’re getting away with this either. The level designers really don’t like Guardians.
Secondly, anyone who suggests we "just kill the Guardians legit" is getting insta-booted from fireteam and GT blocked. No exceptions. We're not doing it legit, this is purely payback for making the last month of my life hell in normal mode. Damn cheaters, sword flying across my bridge, going to orbit when I'm kneeling... We'll show them some cheese. Anyway, I need the following players:
lvl 33 Gatekeeper:
You're basically just here to troll the Guardians who used to go camp the middle room. At first I was going to just close the door when I first enter the fight, but I think this is way funnier. You are invulnerable to everything but a sword, so you can basically phone this one in. edit My neighbor's 5-year old daughter volunteered for this role, so I don't need anyone else atm. She just keeps pushing the RT button randomly, so I figure she's perfect for this role.
lvl 33 Sword-bearer:
Your role here is crucial. The only way I can die is if the Guardians' timing is pretty much perfect. So your job is to TOTALLY F**K their timing. If Guardians are left, run right. If Guardians are right, run left. If they're in the center, just go hide or stay in the doorway or something. If you can buy me 20 seconds, then I can run to one side after their first sword attack & prevent a 2nd attack, and if we do that a couple times, it's almost mathematically impossible for us to lose. Also, on occasion, we’re going to not spawn you using a known glitch. I mean hey, they can’t kill me if you don’t spawn and die, right? LOL. There is one more glitch you can utilize, and that’s the vaporizing sword trick. Before you come out, grab the prop sword made of paper mache, and when it drops, it will just turn to dust. And then hilarity ensues!
lvl 33 Hallowed Knights:
Listen carefully, I know you’re technically supposed to be restricted to your "boomer tower" only. Not anymore. There's a glitch that allows you to basically warp down onto the bridge. And since you're a 33, you can literally 2-shot the sword-carrier Guardian. Titan class Guardians will try to put their stupid bubbles around you in your tower so you can't shoot the sword-carrier. If that happens, try and cheese: glitch down onto the bridge and shoot the sword-carrier in the back. This one is real funny
lvl 33 Thrall:
I don't typically speak to thrall. Whatever, join or don't, you guys are worthless. I mean seriously. I give you guys one simple task! Kill 6 Guardians who can't double-jump or sprint in a PITCH BLACK MAZE. Oh and by the way, you outlevel them and you outnumber them about 1,000:6. I swear I'd kick you all from the clan and we'd be no worse off. Obviously after the Abyss debacle, you can’t help me here. You idiots do more harm than good at the Guardian checkpoint; soaking up bullets from Red Death, giving health back to Guardians. Just hide or something! sigh Tell you what. If you’re a thrall, I want you to run into the crystal room while they’re standing on the outside ledge and bite the guardians through the closed windows. The windows are glitched so you can literally bite and claw them THROUGH the closed window. That’s the only possible way you can be useful. Just don't bring any ammo and try not to turn into an orb of light or a heavy ammo drop please.
Lvl 33 Acolytes & Hallowed Knights:
You’ll stand outside of the crystal room as I’m spawning and shoot into the crystal room. Knights; please remember to glitch through the closed windows before they open. And everyone, make sure to empty your heavy ammo before the fight starts so you don’t drop any when you die.
Lvl 33 Ogres:
You are programmed to spawn after the 2nd and 4th sword disappears, but we can have a little fun with you guys. There is a glitch we can exploit that will spawn you after only the 1st sword, and then again after the 2nd. That’s always disorienting for Guardians. Not many other glitches for you guys, but hey, you’re a full level above the guardians, they can’t regen health, you’re Hive Majors, and YOUR FACE IS A FRIGGIN GATLING GUN.
Alright. Now even though the Guardians can’t regen health and you’re a FULL LEVEL above them, I don’t expect you to stop them from tearing through you and smacking me with our own swords. Fortunately for all of us, you are talking to the cheese master. They say “the moon is made of cheese.” Well that’s because I live here.
Take a look at my new hat!
http://i.imgur.com/zG3Hz0D.jpg
So here’s what I’m gonna do. I have a whole plethora of cheeses & glitches that I'm going to take advantage of to kill some Guardians. I'll detail a few of them here so everyone knows how the Guardian fight is going to work.
Server Timing glitches:
I’m going to basically mess with the timers on all my actions by using the standby function on my router. So normally a blade-dancer, if timed right, can get 4 sword smashes on me when my shield is down. Well I can press “standby” and my shield comes back in just two hits. Since it takes 18 hits to kill me, if they only get 2 hits per attack, its basically impossible for them to win. I can literally do this all night. Like literally, the Guardians will have to sign off and try again the next day. I can sustain this glitch for hours. Seriously this Rambo clown and his friends spent like 2 hours, two nights in a row getting cheesed by this glitch. I did the glitch the ENTIRE night! They literally gave up, TWICE! They came back the next day and tried instancing on European servers to avoid this cheese, lololololol!
Here’s a gif of Rambo trying to pwn me only to discover my shield is back in half the time, LOL!
http://i.imgur.com/0IEfXfW.gif
Movement timer glitch:
As implied, I can also glitch my movement timer. This one is harder to pull off but I can still do this cheese every few attempts. Basically what’s going to happen is the Guardians are going to down the sword-bearer in like 10 seconds, which would normally give them time for 2 or even 3 sword attacks with that single sword, but I’m going to start running to the other side after the first sword attack. I run a 40 yard dash in like 1.5 seconds, so they can’t possibly get a 2nd sword attack in before it disappears.
No-kneel glitch:
One of my most common cheese moves is via the “ignore-aggro/no kneel” glitch. Traditionally, I am bound by the rules of most bosses in terms of drawing aggro. Rockets hit me, I put my hand up to cover my eyes, then my shield comes off and I kneel to regroup. But I’m not retarded. I’ve done this a few times. I know what’s going on here. Those jerks on the ledge are trying to draw my aggro while the guy carrying the ONE WEAPON that can hurt me sneaks in behind me when my shield is down. Well I’ve discovered an loophole in the coding that allows me to not-kneel when my shield comes off and ignore the aggro that the rocket guys are trying to draw, then I’m free to unleash hell on the sword-carrier while I’m under heavy rocket fire.
Watch this Rambo guy get pwnd when he thinks I’m about to kneel. They saw my shield come off, they thought they timed it perfect, but all they got was a mouthful of cheese! LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detai...
Insta-kill glitches:
I’m also working on some new “insta-pwn” glitch moves. There are quite a few of them. I like to combine them with my fast-stand-up/instant-stomp glitch and wipe out the sword-carrier. I’ve also got a super-death-laser that can be glitched to 1-hit a sword carrier. Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCnwXkF9GIg&x-...
So basically that’s my plan. If somehow, somebody manages to circumvent my cheeses, the coding requires that I give them something. In which case I've had our seamstress knit up a few thousand glow-in-the-dark shaders so the Guardians will be easier to see in the dark, and probably easier to see in Crucible. That way they can kill each other off and save me the trouble. I've got a few ugly ships that no Hive want that I can throw their way too...
Here's the best part; most of these Guardians are hoping for something they call the "Crux of Crota." It's not a literal object. It's just a figure of speech; My glitches are the literal "crux of Crota." L-O-friggen-L!
Msg "Crota" on XBL if you want to help with the cheese
Good news! Bungie patched my arthritis/knee glitch for Hard Mode and I'm finally able to stand up again. And since Guardians can no longer cheese me, its time for us to cheese some Guardians!
I'll be on XBL all weekend cheesing Guardians, and I'll have plenty of open fireteam slots for any level 33 Hive looking for some easy loot drops. I have the HM CE Guardian checkpoint on all 3 toons. We are going to be exploiting a long list of known glitches to cheese Guardians, so minimal playing skill is required. Just join up and get your loot drops.
First, a few ground rules. I'm only taking level 33's. Don't even message me if you're 32. Why? Well because it's a level 32 raid and Guardians are capped at level 32. So, we’ll just be 33, get a damage buff and we’ll take 30% less damage. I mean, LOL, right? I know, I can't believe we’re getting away with this either. The level designers really don’t like Guardians.
Secondly, anyone who suggests we "just kill the Guardians legit" is getting insta-booted from fireteam and GT blocked. No exceptions. We're not doing it legit, this is purely payback for making the last month of my life hell in normal mode. Damn cheaters, sword flying across my bridge, going to orbit when I'm kneeling... We'll show them some cheese. Anyway, I need the following players:
lvl 33 Gatekeeper:
You're basically just here to troll the Guardians who used to go camp the middle room. At first I was going to just close the door when I first enter the fight, but I think this is way funnier. You are invulnerable to everything but a sword, so you can basically phone this one in. edit My neighbor's 5-year old daughter volunteered for this role, so I don't need anyone else atm. She just keeps pushing the RT button randomly, so I figure she's perfect for this role.
lvl 33 Sword-bearer:
Your role here is crucial. The only way I can die is if the Guardians' timing is pretty much perfect. So your job is to TOTALLY F**K their timing. If Guardians are left, run right. If Guardians are right, run left. If they're in the center, just go hide or stay in the doorway or something. If you can buy me 20 seconds, then I can run to one side after their first sword attack & prevent a 2nd attack, and if we do that a couple times, it's almost mathematically impossible for us to lose. Also, on occasion, we’re going to not spawn you using a known glitch. I mean hey, they can’t kill me if you don’t spawn and die, right? LOL. There is one more glitch you can utilize, and that’s the vaporizing sword trick. Before you come out, grab the prop sword made of paper mache, and when it drops, it will just turn to dust. And then hilarity ensues!
lvl 33 Hallowed Knights:
Listen carefully, I know you’re technically supposed to be restricted to your "boomer tower" only. Not anymore. There's a glitch that allows you to basically warp down onto the bridge. And since you're a 33, you can literally 2-shot the sword-carrier Guardian. Titan class Guardians will try to put their stupid bubbles around you in your tower so you can't shoot the sword-carrier. If that happens, try and cheese: glitch down onto the bridge and shoot the sword-carrier in the back. This one is real funny
lvl 33 Thrall:
I don't typically speak to thrall. Whatever, join or don't, you guys are worthless. I mean seriously. I give you guys one simple task! Kill 6 Guardians who can't double-jump or sprint in a PITCH BLACK MAZE. Oh and by the way, you outlevel them and you outnumber them about 1,000:6. I swear I'd kick you all from the clan and we'd be no worse off. Obviously after the Abyss debacle, you can’t help me here. You idiots do more harm than good at the Guardian checkpoint; soaking up bullets from Red Death, giving health back to Guardians. Just hide or something! sigh Tell you what. If you’re a thrall, I want you to run into the crystal room while they’re standing on the outside ledge and bite the guardians through the closed windows. The windows are glitched so you can literally bite and claw them THROUGH the closed window. That’s the only possible way you can be useful. Just don't bring any ammo and try not to turn into an orb of light or a heavy ammo drop please.
Lvl 33 Acolytes & Hallowed Knights:
You’ll stand outside of the crystal room as I’m spawning and shoot into the crystal room. Knights; please remember to glitch through the closed windows before they open. And everyone, make sure to empty your heavy ammo before the fight starts so you don’t drop any when you die.
Lvl 33 Ogres:
You are programmed to spawn after the 2nd and 4th sword disappears, but we can have a little fun with you guys. There is a glitch we can exploit that will spawn you after only the 1st sword, and then again after the 2nd. That’s always disorienting for Guardians. Not many other glitches for you guys, but hey, you’re a full level above the guardians, they can’t regen health, you’re Hive Majors, and YOUR FACE IS A FRIGGIN GATLING GUN.
Alright. Now even though the Guardians can’t regen health and you’re a FULL LEVEL above them, I don’t expect you to stop them from tearing through you and smacking me with our own swords. Fortunately for all of us, you are talking to the cheese master. They say “the moon is made of cheese.” Well that’s because I live here.
Take a look at my new hat!
http://i.imgur.com/zG3Hz0D.jpg
So here’s what I’m gonna do. I have a whole plethora of cheeses & glitches that I'm going to take advantage of to kill some Guardians. I'll detail a few of them here so everyone knows how the Guardian fight is going to work.
Server Timing glitches:
I’m going to basically mess with the timers on all my actions by using the standby function on my router. So normally a blade-dancer, if timed right, can get 4 sword smashes on me when my shield is down. Well I can press “standby” and my shield comes back in just two hits. Since it takes 18 hits to kill me, if they only get 2 hits per attack, its basically impossible for them to win. I can literally do this all night. Like literally, the Guardians will have to sign off and try again the next day. I can sustain this glitch for hours. Seriously this Rambo clown and his friends spent like 2 hours, two nights in a row getting cheesed by this glitch. I did the glitch the ENTIRE night! They literally gave up, TWICE! They came back the next day and tried instancing on European servers to avoid this cheese, lololololol!
Here’s a gif of Rambo trying to pwn me only to discover my shield is back in half the time, LOL!
http://i.imgur.com/0IEfXfW.gif
Movement timer glitch:
As implied, I can also glitch my movement timer. This one is harder to pull off but I can still do this cheese every few attempts. Basically what’s going to happen is the Guardians are going to down the sword-bearer in like 10 seconds, which would normally give them time for 2 or even 3 sword attacks with that single sword, but I’m going to start running to the other side after the first sword attack. I run a 40 yard dash in like 1.5 seconds, so they can’t possibly get a 2nd sword attack in before it disappears.
No-kneel glitch:
One of my most common cheese moves is via the “ignore-aggro/no kneel” glitch. Traditionally, I am bound by the rules of most bosses in terms of drawing aggro. Rockets hit me, I put my hand up to cover my eyes, then my shield comes off and I kneel to regroup. But I’m not retarded. I’ve done this a few times. I know what’s going on here. Those jerks on the ledge are trying to draw my aggro while the guy carrying the ONE WEAPON that can hurt me sneaks in behind me when my shield is down. Well I’ve discovered an loophole in the coding that allows me to not-kneel when my shield comes off and ignore the aggro that the rocket guys are trying to draw, then I’m free to unleash hell on the sword-carrier while I’m under heavy rocket fire.
Watch this Rambo guy get pwnd when he thinks I’m about to kneel. They saw my shield come off, they thought they timed it perfect, but all they got was a mouthful of cheese! LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detai...
Insta-kill glitches:
I’m also working on some new “insta-pwn” glitch moves. There are quite a few of them. I like to combine them with my fast-stand-up/instant-stomp glitch and wipe out the sword-carrier. I’ve also got a super-death-laser that can be glitched to 1-hit a sword carrier. Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCnwXkF9GIg&x-...
So basically that’s my plan. If somehow, somebody manages to circumvent my cheeses, the coding requires that I give them something. In which case I've had our seamstress knit up a few thousand glow-in-the-dark shaders so the Guardians will be easier to see in the dark, and probably easier to see in Crucible. That way they can kill each other off and save me the trouble. I've got a few ugly ships that no Hive want that I can throw their way too...
Here's the best part; most of these Guardians are hoping for something they call the "Crux of Crota." It's not a literal object. It's just a figure of speech; My glitches are the literal "crux of Crota." L-O-friggen-L!
Msg "Crota" on XBL if you want to help with the cheese
Makes sense to me.
Jumped into an LFG group this afternoon and bagged myself an Oversoul Edict, nothing else of note. time to start leveling this thing up. At least this wasn't a completely wasted week.
Still didn't finish Crota though.
Found the bridge section a bit more difficult with Fatebringer, though we blitzed through the shriker corridor first time with no losses, same with Ir Yut.
Can't wait to give this another try next week
Jumped into an LFG group this afternoon and bagged myself an Oversoul Edict, nothing else of note. time to start leveling this thing up. At least this wasn't a completely wasted week.
Still didn't finish Crota though.
Found the bridge section a bit more difficult with Fatebringer, though we blitzed through the shriker corridor first time with no losses, same with Ir Yut.
Can't wait to give this another try next week
Need a hand tonight guys please??? After yet another nightmare run with some random's and 2x12 year old american kids who called everyone sir, I am now left with 1 Crota normal CP and 1 Deathsinger normal CP , although would be happy to help to help out with a Crota hard Cp although I am guessing most of those slots will be filled. Will be on from 7ish. Have 32 Hunter/31 Titan.
Please don't make me do it with more randoms!!
Please don't make me do it with more randoms!!
The Racing Rat said:
Need a hand tonight guys please??? After yet another nightmare run with some random's and 2x12 year old american kids who called everyone sir, I am now left with 1 Crota normal CP and 1 Deathsinger normal CP , although would be happy to help to help out with a Crota hard Cp although I am guessing most of those slots will be filled. Will be on from 7ish. Have 32 Hunter/31 Titan.
Please don't make me do it with more randoms!!
If i can get on i will help!!Please don't make me do it with more randoms!!
that's a big IF tho!!
The Racing Rat said:
Need a hand tonight guys please??? After yet another nightmare run with some random's and 2x12 year old american kids who called everyone sir, I am now left with 1 Crota normal CP and 1 Deathsinger normal CP , although would be happy to help to help out with a Crota hard Cp although I am guessing most of those slots will be filled. Will be on from 7ish. Have 32 Hunter/31 Titan.
Please don't make me do it with more randoms!!
If you'd have hung around for ten minutes last night then you would have had a chance at completing crota on hard. Please don't make me do it with more randoms!!
I had to jump out to give some guys a hand as they had helped me complete it earlier in the day. Just repaying the favour.
We ended up having to fill two slots with randoms to get a team together in the end.
I need to get my titan up to crota on hard first, then I'm happy to help anyone with some sword chopping on normal or hard if you need it later.
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