Destiny (Xbox One)
Discussion
Irrotational said:
Doing 34's with average (random) players is already a pretty tough challenge and can take an hour with some very stressful sections...even if one or two of them have Ghorns...making that even 5 percent or 10 percent harder could be the difference between completion and giving up.
For me good communication, the right mix of class of characters, and switching weapons to reflect modifiers/enemies are more important than packing a Ghorn. The main reason for non-completion on PoE 34's for me has been when we don't have everyone on mics, or don't have a hunter to go invisible, or a titan to drop a bubble. That can make all the difference, particularly for dismantle mines. I've done 34's quite easily with 2 lvl 34's and a lvl 33, so long as the communication is there.
Silverbullet767 said:
Just watched my OH turn in a purple heavy weapon engram and get a gjallarhorn. Her 8th as she pointed out.
The irony is that with the new 2.0 handcannon nerf you'd either be out of bullets or not at close enough range for a OHK 
p.s. 8 gallys!?
Newnameneeded - I am definitely pro communication etc - but I'm not sure those LFG posts really matter? I think they are a matter of perception rather than practicality....People can just make their own posts if they want to.
I use reddit/fireteams (if people here are doing other things or have run PoE etc) and people turn up after a couple of minutes. As an aside I've seen very few "Gjally only" posts...sometimes people request experienced Skolas runners only - but that seems a fair enough request to me.
If they make it harder to spam Ghorn to clear adds for the mine phases...then those same LFG people will specify defender titans or invisi-hunters...
Anyway, I kind of agree (but am sad) that Ghorn is nerfed...but I think Bungie may then have to re-balance other missions (PoE particularly) as they'll see completion rates drop.
Maybe PoE won't matter once TTK comes out anyway!?
EDIT - forgot in all the excitement that Xur is out, celestial nighthawk with a good roll is being sold, and Xur has forgotten to sell a weapon!
Irrotational said:
Anyway, I kind of agree (but am sad) that Ghorn is nerfed...
The thing is (and this isn't directed at yourself) nobody knows what level of nerf this is, or what real difference any of the others will have yet. Gjallahorn is so (disgustingly 
) overpowered that I can't see anyone noticing a real difference unless the damage reduction to wolf pack rounds is over 50%.I noticed quite a big change to hand cannons following the last nerf when others didn't. Prior to the last nerf you could snap headshot with a hand cannon from ridiculous ranges with ease. This accuracy was dialled back quite a lot, requiring a small amount of time to pass whilst ADS to be confident for the head shot to hit. You can still snap them but they require more luck than skill.
Thing is, you just adapt.
Quite looking forward to the weapon changes myself, more gun skills to acquire.
I think they deliberately havent said...as its a big number and they know how much people will complain about it...
What does everyone think about the other changes? I hope they don't nerf hand cannons too much...IMHO they help differentiate destiny from other shooters and they should be the *best* class.
I'm also not sure about the range changes...they're trying to make primaries only work at certain distances. ..which is fine but then you'll need a secondary to compensate. That in turn means either a shotty or a sniper. If you have a shotty then potentially you can't have a hand cannon any more because it's new range will be too short. So its hand cannon and sniper or scout plus shotty?
What does everyone think about the other changes? I hope they don't nerf hand cannons too much...IMHO they help differentiate destiny from other shooters and they should be the *best* class.
I'm also not sure about the range changes...they're trying to make primaries only work at certain distances. ..which is fine but then you'll need a secondary to compensate. That in turn means either a shotty or a sniper. If you have a shotty then potentially you can't have a hand cannon any more because it's new range will be too short. So its hand cannon and sniper or scout plus shotty?
Irrotational said:
its hand cannon and sniper or scout plus shotty?
I've always seen that as the original intent, those are the two extreme choices with the other weapons falling in between. I think Dattos opinion on the changes reflect my own
https://youtu.be/5IKwWEY0GAk
Some epic gaming last night lads, seen 5 gjallys drop yesterday. None for me of course. Tea bagging in full swing too. Made better with the porno music on in the background! Got the place to myself tonight, so no doubt it'll be another night of destiny.
ETA: iPhone changed porno to promo. Pain in the ass!
ETA: iPhone changed porno to promo. Pain in the ass!
Edited by Silverbullet767 on Saturday 18th July 09:58
Yup, we got a lot done last night. From memory I think I had
Aetheons Epilogue
Vision of Confluence
Fang
Found Verdict
The Last Word
No Land Beyond (considering it's getting a buff and I've sharded all of my other ones, happy with this)
Gjallahorn
Numerous bits of armour.
A lot of gjalleys dropped last night, more than I've previously seen. You'll get one eventually mate.
Aetheons Epilogue
Vision of Confluence
Fang
Found Verdict
The Last Word
No Land Beyond (considering it's getting a buff and I've sharded all of my other ones, happy with this)
Gjallahorn
Numerous bits of armour.
A lot of gjalleys dropped last night, more than I've previously seen. You'll get one eventually mate.
Mr E said:
NewNameNeeded said:
Nightfall is Omnigul with all burns active. That'll be fun
Deep joyStill need to do another one, managed to get a Plan C (again) And a titan exotic helmet I already had. Nothing of note.
Did it once last night, everyone dies quickly, including yourself! The final round of the 32 is just a pain. Although less of a pain then last week.
Wont be on tonight I don't think, have the niece and nephew over :/ The joys of 2 year old twins...
Does anyone want to try do a flawless raid run at some point this week? Thinking Thursday eve, say 830?
Wont be on tonight I don't think, have the niece and nephew over :/ The joys of 2 year old twins...
Does anyone want to try do a flawless raid run at some point this week? Thinking Thursday eve, say 830?
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