Destiny (Xbox One)

[strudel]

[strudel]

So regardless of whether we've bought ttk or not, do we still get access to the ps4 exclusive strikes?

[RemaL]

tankslappa said:

I owe Irrotational an apology, I forgot to save him the Templar checkpoint last night.

But I did save you this

http://xboxclips.com/TankSlappa/055b181a-9880-4453...

bd

[Mr E]

strudel said:

Whereas we did VoG hard and didn't finish it after two hours

It was glitchy though. And I enjoyed a go on the relic.

[phil-sti]

first go at sword tonight on Scrota and nailed it

needed about 6 wipes but cracked it.

[tankslappa]

Not sure if anyone caught the twitch stream but its worth watching

https://youtu.be/3ds2-Hs4KLo

Full of spoilers but its shaping up well IMO. Love the exotic weapon blueprint addition, wanted something like that in the game for a long time.

[RemaL]

phil-sti said:

first go at sword tonight on Scrota and nailed it

needed about 6 wipes but cracked it.

Glad you got it in the end Phil. You made it look easy. Sorry I had to bugger off before you finished

[RemaL]

tankslappa said:

Not sure if anyone caught the twitch stream but its worth watching

https://youtu.be/3ds2-Hs4KLo

Full of spoilers but its shaping up well IMO. Love the exotic weapon blueprint addition, wanted something like that in the game for a long time.

Looks impressive. I know that was for the PS4 abut hoping we get the same on the xbone

[Irrotational]

tankslappa said:

I owe Irrotational an apology, I forgot to save him the Templar checkpoint last night.

But I did save you this

http://xboxclips.com/TankSlappa/055b181a-9880-4453...

I stayed away from the thread until I watched the twitch stream....and I come back to this!! That's almost Glenda levels of tea-baggery!! :-)

Twitch stream was awesome and very informative - but also left quite a few important questions.

One thing I think quite a few people on reddit have not really realised - we are really being re-set in year 2. Everyone is used to having whatever legendary weapon they want with whatever burn they need for NF and Weekly. I can see these missions immediately coming out at level 40 and needing decent legendaries with burn modifiers to complete.

Everyone's starting with 0 legendary marks and 0 Year 2 level legendaries or Exotics...with only some ways to "instantly" get them.

Anyway - below is a wall of text I posted in Neogaf - some things to think about for TTK...

Irrotational said:

DON'T make any major changes now to your current gear or inventory!

Why? - essentially pure logic:-

1. There's nothing you can do now that you can't do 1 day before TTK drops.
2. Right now we don't have all the info we need to make the best decisions.
3. We *might* get more info before TTK drops so that we can make better choices.

Here's an example - some people are suggesting converting all your current marks into planetary mats:-

1. Using current marks to buy planetary mats makes sense BUT nearly all new Year 2 Exotic and Legendary content is gated behind the new marks (of which you'll start with 0).

2. All faction packages drop a guaranteed year 2 legendary of some sort (assuming they update the loot tables for factions from Year 1 to Year 2...would seem cruel otherwise).

3. Current marks essentially convert into faction packages and therefore Year 2 legendaries...but at an unknown, and possibly fairly low, conversion rate.

So...we don't really know what the best course of action is because:-

We don't know the conversion rate.
We don't know what materials are available on-board the dreadnought.
We're not sure how quickly you can grind legendary marks versus mats.

Sure you probably want a pile of mats ready, so you don't have to go patrolling right away, but at the same time you may well want quite a lot of marks, to get packages and therefore "instant" legendaries.

Another more speculative example is that Xur is rumoured to sell a "three of coins" that boosts the chance of an exotic drop. IF that exists you might want to spend a bunch of your strange coins on those, rather than heavy ammo to get faction rep (and by extension legendaries).

Some thoughts on the Gunsmith:-

Irrotational said:

I'd recommend levelling the gunsmith to level 1 on all 3 characters a.s.a.p. In the stream those were the only legendary guns I saw that could be bought for glimmer rather than legendary marks.

They weren't at all clear on timings but potentially you could level him on launch Tuesday put in your order and get the gun the next day on arms-wednesday. It *might* not work like that though and it might be the next Wednesday after the reset in which case you'd have a week to level him.

Note that his white guns he will loan are better than your current legendaries (in terms of attack value - mileage will depend on perks, weapon type etc etc).

Apologies for the wall of text but there are some quite subtle things to think through in the new economy/mechanics.

Effect of Light level versus mission level is unknown:-

Irrotational said:

The stream just said that the light score is an average of all your attack and defense scores. Unfortunately they haven't really said anything about how your light level, versus content light level, affects damage.

They also haven't really explained how this new system fits back into the old one. E.g. will a new-style level 34 still have the 30% damage penalty against a 35 skolas? Does that penalty go away when they reach an XP-based level 35?

Or will all the levels be re-branded with their equivalent new light level? E.g. VoG hard was based on having 300ATK weapons (and I can't remember the armour defense value but say that was 400) HOWEVER these are now re-scored as 170 (and say 200). That means VoG hard has a target light level of (3*170+4*200)/7 = 187.

Then they could use the new damage modifier rule on your new light level compared to that re-rated VoG Hard level

Edit - can't get my quotes to work at all

Edited by Irrotational on Thursday 20th August 11:15

Edited by Irrotational on Thursday 20th August 11:41

[tankslappa]

Got on to do some queens bounties last night but got bored. Was about to switch it off and I saw a few of you were running Crota.

So I decided to have a stab at soloing it

Abyss was as straightforward as normal.

Bridge took a couple of attempts with Bones of Eao and sword swing to get across. Not something I have done before to be honest but couldn't be bothered with trying to build the bridge properly. It's a pain in the arse.

Deathsinger was a complete bh being frank and caused quite a bit of swearing. You have to be quick, no time to pause.

My strategy was to immediately jump up to the left as I normally do to get the wizard out. Then run to Crotas spot rather than boomer towers to put the wizard down. Run in as normal to down the shrieker.

Straight to the other side and repeat.

Sounds easy in principle but with no other players in the arena, every single enemy is focussing fire on you. A lack of heavy ammo can be your enemy here too. If you have full rockets and able to use a synth it is easier by far. You can waste a few rockets on the Knights to clear your path.

Ironically the time I actually did it she didn't even get to clear her throat

http://xboxclips.com/TankSlappa/e6dd9a69-fa97-4464...

I had quite a few wipes at Crota before I realised what I was doing wrong. I was trying to do everything at the same speed as going into it with a fireteam. Had to slow everything down.

I also was trying to drop Crota with the Nighthawk shot. It works, BUT there is too long a delay in landing the shot, going back into first person mode and picking the sword back up. So many times I thought I had picked the sword up only to find myself running at Crota without it. So changed up the strategy to use the Nighthawk on the sword bearer and Gjallahorn on Crota.

Ended up with a strategy of trying to get 2 hits per sword. With good timing and Crota being well placed you can get 3 hits in. Deal with Ogres from the centre. Then another two swords. This puts you close to enrage though.

Again, ironically the run on which I actually did it I ended up being able to have two goes with 2 swords.

http://xboxclips.com/TankSlappa/c23c43f7-bb93-47a2...

Took just over 2 hours in the end. It felt like doing hard mode for the first time again, as in that you know how the encounters play out but finding through trial and error how to complete them on your own.

Good fun and I'll probably have another bash to get the time down.

[RemaL]

Impressive mate. i don't think I would manage it or take all day to do that. So good going

I was no on last night. Only thing I have to do is VOG if anyone is up for this at some point this weekend.

I could do with a fatebringer or the Shotgun from VOG I am yet to have.

Also any tips on what to store with the taken king coming out soon

I have been keeping as much stuff as I can. I hear about green guns maybe being better than exotics. Unsure where I heard this.

I only ask as I'm running out of room on all characters and my vault

[Irrotational]

Totally awesome!!

Looking forward to just loading in to the Abyss now and leaving you to it on reset Tuesdays! :-)

We'll all stand on the windowsill and watch, whilst offering words of wisdom from afar... Glenda can teabag you occasionally to encourage you to get better.

[Irrotational]

RemaL said:

Impressive mate. i don't think I would manage it or take all day to do that. So good going

I was no on last night. Only thing I have to do is VOG if anyone is up for this at some point this weekend.

I could do with a fatebringer or the Shotgun from VOG I am yet to have.

Also any tips on what to store with the taken king coming out soon

I have been keeping as much stuff as I can. I hear about green guns maybe being better than exotics. Unsure where I heard this.

I only ask as I'm running out of room on all characters and my vault

Remal - new green guns AFTER TTK comes out will be more powerful than current legendaries - but don't keep green ones that are dropping at the moment.

As it stands - everything shown in the reveal streams suggests all legendary weapons will be pretty pointless in TTK...BUT don't shard anything legendary yet!!

Definitely don't shard any legendary or higher armour. The game will look at what armour you've got on launch day and then map you across to a new style 34.

[Mr E]

Sorry tank. That read like you solo'd Crota?

Which means of course that I cannot have read that correctly.

[RemaL]

Irrotational said:

RemaL said:

Impressive mate. i don't think I would manage it or take all day to do that. So good going

I was no on last night. Only thing I have to do is VOG if anyone is up for this at some point this weekend.

I could do with a fatebringer or the Shotgun from VOG I am yet to have.

Also any tips on what to store with the taken king coming out soon

I have been keeping as much stuff as I can. I hear about green guns maybe being better than exotics. Unsure where I heard this.

I only ask as I'm running out of room on all characters and my vault

Remal - new green guns AFTER TTK comes out will be more powerful than current legendaries - but don't keep green ones that are dropping at the moment.

As it stands - everything shown in the reveal streams suggests all legendary weapons will be pretty pointless in TTK...BUT don't shard anything legendary yet!!

Definitely don't shard any legendary or higher armour. The game will look at what armour you've got on launch day and then map you across to a new style 34.

Yup seen the "keep the higher armour " and I've been keeping the Purple and Blue Engrams.

cheers for that. i'm just hording loads of Crota guns, POE gunes and Armour etc...

[tankslappa]

Mr E said:

Sorry tank. That read like you solo'd Crota?

Which means of course that I cannot have read that correctly.

Yes mate. Just over 2 hours straight through.

Talking about what to keep for TTK, I noticed from the Twitch stream that we can trade in all of our different types of materials, and ammo synths for faction rep.

Constantly having to delete planetary mats but I might just start holding onto them in the few vault slots I have spare.

[Glenred]

Well done Tanky! And you got 2 shards also, lucky bd.....

[tankslappa]

Glenred said:

Well done Tanky! And you got 2 shards also, lucky bd.....

Thanks petal. So when are you going to have a go ;-)

[Glenred]

tankslappa said:

Thanks petal. So when are you going to have a go ;-)

Hmmmmmm... Never!

Tbh though I feel like I'm soloing everything anyway playing with you and Gav

[Irrotational]

RemaL said:

Yup seen the "keep the higher armour " and I've been keeping the Purple and Blue Engrams.

cheers for that. I'm just hording loads of Crota guns, POE gunes and Armour etc...

Yeah - do that until you're full and then get rid of any blue engrams if you get a new purple engram. They WILL decrypt into old stuff, but the new Cryptarch packages you get when you decrypt the engrams will drop new loots.

Friendly reminder to everyone - we haven't had to worry about XP for quite awhile. If you want to prep it's worth having 10 completed bounties on your chars for a quick bit of level boosting.

If you want to take it further you can also store the "public event rewards" on your postmaster - i think these give you 2.5k XP as well?

Also note - your current marks will convert into commendations that will also get put into the postmaster, and you're capped at 20 items....so don't bother having 20 daily reward packages!

My rough plan at the moment:-

1. Log in and look at the shiny things
2. Get some stuff out of the postmaster
3. Decrypt engrams to clear space and get some cryptarch packages
4. Pick up my pre-order stuff
5. Shard some random old legendaries/crap
6. Dump reputation into vendors to get more packages
7. Hopefully start the quest to unlock the 3rd subclass
8. Once that's unlocked dump XP to gain some levels and progress the subclass
9. Actually play the game!?!?

Edit for last few posts:-

Tank - unfortunately I don't think you can trade planetary mats for Rep...it was motes, weapon and armour parts, and special and heavy synths.

They have confirmed that you can BUY mats from the vanguard vendor still (only vanguard not the crucible guy).

Glen - meow!! :-)

Edited by Irrotational on Friday 21st August 19:30