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So tell me Challenger, WTF was this all about tonight? (Not to mention sending a message to another player apologising for hitting them because you thought they were me). I don't remember hitting you, and if I did it certainly wouldn't have been on purpose, you want to grow up mate
http://youtu.be/AJqt_h8l2Ww
http://youtu.be/bZ7_y75QeOg
(In fact, in that second clip I stopped behind you to let you go as I thought I might have clipped you, even though looking at the footage I hadnt. No need to start reversing at me)
http://youtu.be/AJqt_h8l2Ww
http://youtu.be/bZ7_y75QeOg
(In fact, in that second clip I stopped behind you to let you go as I thought I might have clipped you, even though looking at the footage I hadnt. No need to start reversing at me)
Edited by JohnStitch on Tuesday 3rd February 23:22
Jobbo said:
In both those clips I nudge you - I'm really sorry about that, particularly in the first one! Hadn't realised quite how badly it had affected your race 
No probs Jobbo, nudging other racers is often unavoidable, especially when I've spun out in front of everyone, it's a certain player ramming me on purpose over the course of a couple of races that I take offence to.
Lynchie999 said:
... don't be too quick to judge! it might have been a friend / family playing on his account ??
I doubt a friend/family would message another player to say "Sorry for hitting you, I thought you was Joyrider". That was just vindictive - Why not just message me instead to say what the problem is? Not hard is it? But hey, if it was a friend/family, then no bother, and it is just a game after all so I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it, but I just wanted to point out that maybe some people should live by the crew rules they are often spouting and not act aggressively to other crew members just because they've got the hump over something. Everyone else in those races was surprised at that behaviour so it wasn't just me.
AlleyCat said:
It does seem to be very odd behaviour for Challenger?
Indeed, I think that's why I was so taken aback by it. Edited by JohnStitch on Wednesday 4th February 09:36
If that's aimed at me Norfock it's not my pram the toys should be going in. I've already said it's just a game, that's why I'm surprised at the reaction. The point I was trying to make in the first place was that people are quick to jump on players racing dirty on this forum (and rightly so), yet when someone is doing it on purpose to prove a point then I just sit back and accept it? I'm sure if anyone else had this last night they'd be saying the same thing. Maybe Challenger can give his take on this rather than things being blown out of proportion and misconstrued as me being in the wrong here.
It's aimed at no one but i feel a few should take note of it.
I've listened to a few groups b
h and moan about other people on the crew, i'm not joining in on it.
People do seem to be forgetting it's a game at the end of the day.
I've had plenty of stuff done to me and have done stuff back. Doesn't bother me in the end.
I've listened to a few groups b
h and moan about other people on the crew, i'm not joining in on it.People do seem to be forgetting it's a game at the end of the day.
I've had plenty of stuff done to me and have done stuff back. Doesn't bother me in the end.
I think I've been quite polite about it to be honest. Just wanting to know why I was singled out by someone that I thought I got on with, and in answering the posts on here it seems that I might be seen by a few of you (that werent there) as the bad guy in all of this, so until an explanation is offered up there's no point in this conversation.
Edited by JohnStitch on Wednesday 4th February 19:09
A.J.M said:
It's aimed at no one but i feel a few should take note of it.
I've listened to a few groups bh and moan about other people on the crew, i'm not joining in on it.
People do seem to be forgetting it's a game at the end of the day.
I've had plenty of stuff done to me and have done stuff back. Doesn't bother me in the end.
Excellent philosophy I've listened to a few groups b
h and moan about other people on the crew, i'm not joining in on it.People do seem to be forgetting it's a game at the end of the day.
I've had plenty of stuff done to me and have done stuff back. Doesn't bother me in the end.
There has been an awful lot of bhing at other crew members so I'd normally have sent this to Joyrider as a private message to avoid any more drama but other people seem to need an explanation so I'll post the apology here with the (weak) explanation.
No, it wasn't a family member or friend playing on my account. It was me who's run out of his antidepressants for a couple of days and is on the wrong side of cranky. A couple of things had been building up to make me a little more antisocial than usual going into that event - notably earlier when I'd been in a room with Eased, Jobbo and a few other people driving around in Sultans and Futos, who appeared to ignore me over mikes. I began to assume this was because all of you were unhappy with my ideas for the clubsport event I had planned for this weekend and you were intentionally ignoring me because I wouldn't allow the Sultan or Futo outright.
Then I ended up in a race with AdamP and one of his other RedRum colleagues and some fking American tt who was going on about how we sounded Korean and how he hated Koreans. Normally it would just have been something to laugh at but I was still bitter about earlier and I ended up just tearing my mike out since Adam and his cronies weren't talking to me either. Ended up doing a few races with them, all with slipstream off, catchup off, nice and tight and quick and I was enjoying myself.
When I joined Easedlight's playlist I was a little shocked at how bad the driving was, and especially with catchup and slipstream on. Seriously man, turn it off unless it's something like Long Haul, it's ste. I wasn't prepared for most of the crashes, but I was still very chuffed with how well I was keeping up with all your Turismos, Entities and Zentornos in my Vacca. Then on Dipping In, Joyrider clipped me about 200m from the end after slipstreaming past and sent me spinning. That was the reason I snapped.
Like I said, I was off my medication and generally letting stty things that shouldn't have been bothering me bother me. So it's not much of an explanation or reason why I went so apest on you in the next few races. Arguably I should have been smashing Easedlight for taking such retarded race choices (seriously, super-after-super-after-super? Where's the variety man?) but I wasn't thinking straight. I do that a lot when I lose control. When Eased took me out on that fourth or fifth race, I just decided enough was enough and disconnected in anger. I didn't have my mike on or headphones in to hear the chatter so I don't know if you apologised or not, and what you guys were all saying. I was an angry outsider who felt that I was being deliberately mocked and left out of the proceedings so I lost it.
I'm sorry Joyrider and I'm sorry to anyone else that was angry with my behaviour, though arguably I didn't do any damage to anything other than my own ego. I know there's been too much fking political drama here of late and I'm sorry to add to that. If you guys would rather kick me from the crew I can understand that. I'll try not to let it happen again, but again, that was an extreme situation. I should get a refill of my antidepressants later today (woke up due to noise outside and thought I'd get this out of the way before I get too fking proud again and decide I'm in the right again) but it is just too much for a crew that doesn't need it. And I'm sorry.
Hope we can race again under better circumstances in the future, John.
-Greg
hing at other crew members so I'd normally have sent this to Joyrider as a private message to avoid any more drama but other people seem to need an explanation so I'll post the apology here with the (weak) explanation.No, it wasn't a family member or friend playing on my account. It was me who's run out of his antidepressants for a couple of days and is on the wrong side of cranky. A couple of things had been building up to make me a little more antisocial than usual going into that event - notably earlier when I'd been in a room with Eased, Jobbo and a few other people driving around in Sultans and Futos, who appeared to ignore me over mikes. I began to assume this was because all of you were unhappy with my ideas for the clubsport event I had planned for this weekend and you were intentionally ignoring me because I wouldn't allow the Sultan or Futo outright.
Then I ended up in a race with AdamP and one of his other RedRum colleagues and some f
king American tt who was going on about how we sounded Korean and how he hated Koreans. Normally it would just have been something to laugh at but I was still bitter about earlier and I ended up just tearing my mike out since Adam and his cronies weren't talking to me either. Ended up doing a few races with them, all with slipstream off, catchup off, nice and tight and quick and I was enjoying myself. When I joined Easedlight's playlist I was a little shocked at how bad the driving was, and especially with catchup and slipstream on. Seriously man, turn it off unless it's something like Long Haul, it's s
te. I wasn't prepared for most of the crashes, but I was still very chuffed with how well I was keeping up with all your Turismos, Entities and Zentornos in my Vacca. Then on Dipping In, Joyrider clipped me about 200m from the end after slipstreaming past and sent me spinning. That was the reason I snapped. Like I said, I was off my medication and generally letting s
tty things that shouldn't have been bothering me bother me. So it's not much of an explanation or reason why I went so apest on you in the next few races. Arguably I should have been smashing Easedlight for taking such retarded race choices (seriously, super-after-super-after-super? Where's the variety man?) but I wasn't thinking straight. I do that a lot when I lose control. When Eased took me out on that fourth or fifth race, I just decided enough was enough and disconnected in anger. I didn't have my mike on or headphones in to hear the chatter so I don't know if you apologised or not, and what you guys were all saying. I was an angry outsider who felt that I was being deliberately mocked and left out of the proceedings so I lost it. I'm sorry Joyrider and I'm sorry to anyone else that was angry with my behaviour, though arguably I didn't do any damage to anything other than my own ego. I know there's been too much f
king political drama here of late and I'm sorry to add to that. If you guys would rather kick me from the crew I can understand that. I'll try not to let it happen again, but again, that was an extreme situation. I should get a refill of my antidepressants later today (woke up due to noise outside and thought I'd get this out of the way before I get too fking proud again and decide I'm in the right again) but it is just too much for a crew that doesn't need it. And I'm sorry. Hope we can race again under better circumstances in the future, John.
-Greg
Andurron said:
....notably earlier when I'd been in a room with Eased, Jobbo and a few other people driving around in Sultans and Futos, who appeared to ignore me over mikes.
Your mic must have been on mute as I was in that session and never heard you say anything, not even a reply when you joined and I said hello.Andurron said:
I'm sorry Joyrider and I'm sorry to anyone else
...And that all it needs really. I'm sure if Joyrider had inadvertently upset you he would have apologised too. Lets just move on...
Edited by Crafty_ on Thursday 5th February 06:47
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