World of Warships
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MarkRSi said:
I've only played PvE, tried a few PvP battles but promptly got wiped out in no time.
Managed to unlock the lowest tier japanese battleship - what a slow lardy b
d that was 
- and haven't played since...
It does get better - around tiers 5-6 (maybe 7 at a push) you get a decent mix of ships moving at different speeds with different ways to play them, etc. After that it's just a long range sniping fest from battleships, and invisible destroyers (why do we call them DDs by the way?) spamming out torpedoes hoping to hit something.Managed to unlock the lowest tier japanese battleship - what a slow lardy b
d that was - and haven't played since...It was great fun for a while, but the matchmaking makes half the team pointless and sometimes hitting for 200 then the next shot hits for 2000 gets a bit boring.
Why DDs?Down to the way the Yanks classify them apparently,not sure it means anything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_classification_...
I nearly googled just "DD" but that probably isnt best with OH about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_classification_...
I nearly googled just "DD" but that probably isnt best with OH about
eatcustard said:
Game has now joined WOTs into the waste bin.
It lacks staying power, lack of maps, MM is poor etc.
Time to find another game to moan about
Think this is the new thing to moan about http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=25&...It lacks staying power, lack of maps, MM is poor etc.
Time to find another game to moan about
MarkRSi said:
Think this is the new thing to moan about http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=25&...
Far worse then WOT, at least WOT try to make the game interesting AW is just a jokeIm sure doom is still good
eatcustard said:
MarkRSi said:
Think this is the new thing to moan about http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=25&...
Far worse then WOT, at least WOT try to make the game interesting AW is just a jokeIm sure doom is still good
ok it needs work but it I find it better than WoT especially for the PvE element.WoW is not bad for the occasional play but like you say there's not a lot to hold your interest really...
My brother in law introduced me to WoW but it looks like I'm a bit late to the PH party. I've only been playing it a week and am finding it interesting to play. If you have a good game and hit lots of stuff it's very good but it can also be just as frustrating in equal measure for the following reasons.
1) Battleships are rubbish. Admittedly I'm only tier 4 on IJN and the US but they are big and slow which means you are target number 1. I thought this would be more than made up for by the big guns, except you can't hit anything with them, even if you are on target due to RJN spread and they take an age to reload. I thought battleships were the kings of the seas at the time but they are pretty much reduced to cannon fodder in this. Please tell me they get better at the higher tiers.
2) Torpedo spam from DD's and planes. Way too OP.
3) Being set on fire every 2 seconds. Seriously they need to tone this down a bit.
It's still a lot of fun but feels like I'm being forced to go down the DD\torpedo route whether I want to or not when I'd much rather be shooting big guns.
My BIL is tier 8-10 on most stuff as he's been playing it for months but he almost exclusively uses destroyers as he reckons they are far and away the most effective class at the moment. With a bit more balancing this game could be more interesting.
1) Battleships are rubbish. Admittedly I'm only tier 4 on IJN and the US but they are big and slow which means you are target number 1. I thought this would be more than made up for by the big guns, except you can't hit anything with them, even if you are on target due to RJN spread and they take an age to reload. I thought battleships were the kings of the seas at the time but they are pretty much reduced to cannon fodder in this. Please tell me they get better at the higher tiers.
2) Torpedo spam from DD's and planes. Way too OP.
3) Being set on fire every 2 seconds. Seriously they need to tone this down a bit.
It's still a lot of fun but feels like I'm being forced to go down the DD\torpedo route whether I want to or not when I'd much rather be shooting big guns.
My BIL is tier 8-10 on most stuff as he's been playing it for months but he almost exclusively uses destroyers as he reckons they are far and away the most effective class at the moment. With a bit more balancing this game could be more interesting.
Guvernator said:
I thought battleships were the kings of the seas at the time but they are pretty much reduced to cannon fodder in this.
They were pretty obsolete by WW2 as well, due to the advent of carrier power. Only one US battleship, USS Washington, managed to sink an enemy battleship in WW2. They were generally plastered in AA guns and reduced to carrier escort and shore bombardment for the rest of the war.Beati Dogu said:
Guvernator said:
I thought battleships were the kings of the seas at the time but they are pretty much reduced to cannon fodder in this.
They were pretty obsolete by WW2 as well, due to the advent of carrier power. Only one US battleship, USS Washington, managed to sink an enemy battleship in WW2. They were generally plastered in AA guns and reduced to carrier escort and shore bombardment for the rest of the war.People complain about people sniping in Battleships and not getting stuck in but it's because despite the HP\tanking ability, they are just too vulnerable at anything approaching medium to close range so you are forced to try to keep your distance.
Guvernator said:
My brother in law introduced me to WoW but it looks like I'm a bit late to the PH party. I've only been playing it a week and am finding it interesting to play. If you have a good game and hit lots of stuff it's very good but it can also be just as frustrating in equal measure for the following reasons.
1) Battleships are rubbish. Admittedly I'm only tier 4 on IJN and the US but they are big and slow which means you are target number 1. I thought this would be more than made up for by the big guns, except you can't hit anything with them, even if you are on target due to RJN spread and they take an age to reload. I thought battleships were the kings of the seas at the time but they are pretty much reduced to cannon fodder in this. Please tell me they get better at the higher tiers.
2) Torpedo spam from DD's and planes. Way too OP.
3) Being set on fire every 2 seconds. Seriously they need to tone this down a bit.
It's still a lot of fun but feels like I'm being forced to go down the DD\torpedo route whether I want to or not when I'd much rather be shooting big guns.
My BIL is tier 8-10 on most stuff as he's been playing it for months but he almost exclusively uses destroyers as he reckons they are far and away the most effective class at the moment. With a bit more balancing this game could be more interesting.
1) Battleships of the USN and IJN massively improve T5 and upwards. Although I still enjoyed the Wyoming at Tier IV1) Battleships are rubbish. Admittedly I'm only tier 4 on IJN and the US but they are big and slow which means you are target number 1. I thought this would be more than made up for by the big guns, except you can't hit anything with them, even if you are on target due to RJN spread and they take an age to reload. I thought battleships were the kings of the seas at the time but they are pretty much reduced to cannon fodder in this. Please tell me they get better at the higher tiers.
2) Torpedo spam from DD's and planes. Way too OP.
3) Being set on fire every 2 seconds. Seriously they need to tone this down a bit.
It's still a lot of fun but feels like I'm being forced to go down the DD\torpedo route whether I want to or not when I'd much rather be shooting big guns.
My BIL is tier 8-10 on most stuff as he's been playing it for months but he almost exclusively uses destroyers as he reckons they are far and away the most effective class at the moment. With a bit more balancing this game could be more interesting.
2) Torpedo spam really isn't that much of an issue if you pay attention and have good spacial awareness. This comes with practice and games played (I have clocked up roughly 1700 battles since release). Sometimes you can just be unlucky.
3) Fires are a pain, if you are in a Battleship you never repair on just 1 fire. Wait for a minimum of 2, as the heal will repair a good 70% of the damage done or so. Fires on the other classes don't really do that much damage.
There is a massive balance and improvement patch dropping on Thursday. That should make some difference across the Tiers.
Guvernator said:
1) Battleships are rubbish. Admittedly I'm only tier 4 on IJN and the US but they are big and slow which means you are target number 1. I thought this would be more than made up for by the big guns, except you can't hit anything with them, even if you are on target due to RJN spread and they take an age to reload. I thought battleships were the kings of the seas at the time but they are pretty much reduced to cannon fodder in this. Please tell me they get better at the higher tiers.
2) Torpedo spam from DD's and planes. Way too OP.
3) Being set on fire every 2 seconds. Seriously they need to tone this down a bit.
Have to agree with a lot of that, I understand the battleship is going to be slower than cruisers/destroyers but seems like overkill, and it's not like the shells have a lot of power when/if they actually hit. It seems like the level 4 cruiser/destroyer is much more powerful in comparison.2) Torpedo spam from DD's and planes. Way too OP.
3) Being set on fire every 2 seconds. Seriously they need to tone this down a bit.
Torpedoes are a PITA as well seemingly coming out of nowhere (I guess they're launched by planes as well?), probably an experience thing since I'm nowhere near into triple digits in game count. By the time I hear the siren it's usually too late, I'm assuming you just have to keep an eye out for them?
MarkRSi said:
Have to agree with a lot of that, I understand the battleship is going to be slower than cruisers/destroyers but seems like overkill, and it's not like the shells have a lot of power when/if they actually hit. It seems like the level 4 cruiser/destroyer is much more powerful in comparison.
Torpedoes are a PITA as well seemingly coming out of nowhere (I guess they're launched by planes as well?), probably an experience thing since I'm nowhere near into triple digits in game count. By the time I hear the siren it's usually too late, I'm assuming you just have to keep an eye out for them?
You really need to start playing Tier V Battleships and above and one shot a few cruisers and you will understand the beginning grind is just to get used to the style of play.Torpedoes are a PITA as well seemingly coming out of nowhere (I guess they're launched by planes as well?), probably an experience thing since I'm nowhere near into triple digits in game count. By the time I hear the siren it's usually too late, I'm assuming you just have to keep an eye out for them?
There are also national differences, US BB's are slower than IJN BB's etc.
Torpedos are launched by planes and destroyers. You can see on the minimap and on the screen them coming in to attack you so you can preturn to avoid them. Destroyers are more stealthy and only by understanding how detection mechanics work and how far certain destroyers can launch torpedos without being spotted will you begin to anticipate and play accordingly.
The minimap is your friend and if you haven't made it as big as possible (by pressing +) then I would advise you to do it!
Had a few more successful games last night, slowly getting the hang of it but I still think the odds are firmly stacked against the BS in the lower tiers. Managed to destroy quite a few cruisers and even some destroyers by being a bit more cautious. I'm finding firing your guns one at a time rather than a full volley doing more consistent damage.
There are still far too many situations where DD's absolutely own you though. I'd estimate my success rate against cruisers without torpedo's to be about 80% and those with to be about 50%. DD's however are probably way down at about 30%, they kill me a lot more than I kill them. Even keeping a beady eye on the mini-map and warning indicators, those torpedoes still seem to come out of nowhere way too often.
Still, only about 10k points off researching the tier 5 IJN and US battleships so hopefully they'll be a bit better.
There are still far too many situations where DD's absolutely own you though. I'd estimate my success rate against cruisers without torpedo's to be about 80% and those with to be about 50%. DD's however are probably way down at about 30%, they kill me a lot more than I kill them. Even keeping a beady eye on the mini-map and warning indicators, those torpedoes still seem to come out of nowhere way too often.
Still, only about 10k points off researching the tier 5 IJN and US battleships so hopefully they'll be a bit better.
Guvernator said:
There are still far too many situations where DD's absolutely own you though. I'd estimate my success rate against cruisers without torpedo's to be about 80% and those with to be about 50%. DD's however are probably way down at about 30%, they kill me a lot more than I kill them. Even keeping a beady eye on the mini-map and warning indicators, those torpedoes still seem to come out of nowhere way too often.
Ask nicely in chat for a cruiser escort - I always played in a platoon of 2 and we would never take two battleships together, having a cruiser hanging around near a battleship would allow you to spot torpedoes and planes from a bigger distance (if the cruiser sits in the right place), keeps the destroyers at a bigger distance with their higher rate of fire, and the US ones can pump out a hilarious amount of anti-air fire.It's the rock, paper, scissors element coming to the fore. Battleships aren't the natural killer of destroyers. They are too slow and the rate of fire and traverse speed of their turrets are also too slow to be really effective against destroyers. Yes it is possible to get lucky against them and sink one from time to time, but the natural killer of destroyers is a cruiser.
Using a battleship to to shoot at cruisers is a different story however.
Using a battleship to to shoot at cruisers is a different story however.
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