Call Of Duty: Black Ops 3
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Sniping seems really hard. I finally nailed it last night with 7 kills in a row, but was then ambushed by about 4 players! I wasn't camping as such, but moving about in the same area. I need a more powerful rifle and I can't unlock the next one for a while yet.
Domination has the same problems as old; come up against some teams and you'll find you just get constantly killed on spawning. Shame, one of my favourite modes, and good fun if the opposing team actually move about and play properly.
Domination has the same problems as old; come up against some teams and you'll find you just get constantly killed on spawning. Shame, one of my favourite modes, and good fun if the opposing team actually move about and play properly.
C.A.R. said:
Sniping seems really hard. I finally nailed it last night with 7 kills in a row, but was then ambushed by about 4 players! I wasn't camping as such, but moving about in the same area. I need a more powerful rifle and I can't unlock the next one for a while yet.
Domination has the same problems as old; come up against some teams and you'll find you just get constantly killed on spawning. Shame, one of my favourite modes, and good fun if the opposing team actually move about and play properly.
Locus with suppressor, thermal, FMG and Rapid Fire is good fun. Domination has the same problems as old; come up against some teams and you'll find you just get constantly killed on spawning. Shame, one of my favourite modes, and good fun if the opposing team actually move about and play properly.
I've had a couple of games this afternoon, I was on the wrong side of the host advantage the whole time. I can't believe that for years, I thought that sometimes I was just having a bad game or two, the difference between being on top of the system and being a mile behind it is so obvious. I'm at Level 39 now, and I can't wait for 55 to come so I can sling this load of s
te in for trade.
te in for trade. I noticed a lot of kill cams last night were hip-firing approx 90% of the time. How much skill does that require?! I used to be really good at Black Ops 2, typically top player round after round, but I just can't get to grips with this one. I just want to play a good FPS game, stripped down, none of this modern / fantasy bull, realistic weaponry (you know, guns that go bang instead of shooting beams of lightning).
Is it worth trading up for Battlefield 4? I know it's older but hopefully people still play it, no word on the release date for number 5 yet.
Why can't we just have a remake of modern warfare 2 with better graphics and new maps (preferably designed by people who had nothing to do with the last few COD games!)? I bet people would love it and it would give the franchise back some credibility.
Is it worth trading up for Battlefield 4? I know it's older but hopefully people still play it, no word on the release date for number 5 yet.
Why can't we just have a remake of modern warfare 2 with better graphics and new maps (preferably designed by people who had nothing to do with the last few COD games!)? I bet people would love it and it would give the franchise back some credibility.
C.A.R. said:
I noticed a lot of kill cams last night were hip-firing approx 90% of the time. How much skill does that require?! I used to be really good at Black Ops 2, typically top player round after round, but I just can't get to grips with this one. I just want to play a good FPS game, stripped down, none of this modern / fantasy bull, realistic weaponry (you know, guns that go bang instead of shooting beams of lightning).
Is it worth trading up for Battlefield 4? I know it's older but hopefully people still play it, no word on the release date for number 5 yet.
Why can't we just have a remake of modern warfare 2 with better graphics and new maps (preferably designed by people who had nothing to do with the last few COD games!)? I bet people would love it and it would give the franchise back some credibility.
I moved from the COD series to the BF series around the time of MW2/black ops (1?) and haven't bought a COD game since.Is it worth trading up for Battlefield 4? I know it's older but hopefully people still play it, no word on the release date for number 5 yet.
Why can't we just have a remake of modern warfare 2 with better graphics and new maps (preferably designed by people who had nothing to do with the last few COD games!)? I bet people would love it and it would give the franchise back some credibility.
IMO, bf is just so much better in terms of gameplay and longevity online, "real" guns, larger maps, more players per game + the vehicles add an extra dimension.
That said, BF4 was pretty buggy (on XBO at least, probably to do with being rushed out as a launch title) and not much added over 3. Hardline was a little more far fetched with the cops n robbers theme. In their day bad company 2, and BF3 were great games. I'm hoping for a return to form with BF5 in the same sense that forza 5 was a bit of a pre cursor to forza 6 which is a great game
C.A.R. said:
I noticed a lot of kill cams last night were hip-firing approx 90% of the time. How much skill does that require?! I used to be really good at Black Ops 2, typically top player round after round, but I just can't get to grips with this one. I just want to play a good FPS game, stripped down, none of this modern / fantasy bull, realistic weaponry (you know, guns that go bang instead of shooting beams of lightning).
Is it worth trading up for Battlefield 4? I know it's older but hopefully people still play it, no word on the release date for number 5 yet.
Why can't we just have a remake of modern warfare 2 with better graphics and new maps (preferably designed by people who had nothing to do with the last few COD games!)? I bet people would love it and it would give the franchise back some credibility.
I still prefer BF4 to COD.Is it worth trading up for Battlefield 4? I know it's older but hopefully people still play it, no word on the release date for number 5 yet.
Why can't we just have a remake of modern warfare 2 with better graphics and new maps (preferably designed by people who had nothing to do with the last few COD games!)? I bet people would love it and it would give the franchise back some credibility.
Our mate group play COD most nights.
It's frustrating because I would consider myself fairly good but I get killed, almost before the enemy even appears, by some 12 year old who plays it 20 hours a day.
BF4 I was consistently top 3 of every match I played. I prefered the breadth of gameplay options, sniping, assault, tactical / c4 / traps / building destruction / vehicles.
Unfortunately most of my mates play COD so I am sort of stuck.
MW1 was the best COD, BLOPS3 is average.
I'm grinding out the last few levels of MP now, it is dreadful. Double XP means the slog has been massively reduced, I'd have given up otherwise.
One thing that really bugs me is the game's inability to correctly display all of the calling cards and emblems. You see so many pop up with the blank red placeholder image instead of the proper calling card, even now, so long after the game was released. What a load of st.
One thing that really bugs me is the game's inability to correctly display all of the calling cards and emblems. You see so many pop up with the blank red placeholder image instead of the proper calling card, even now, so long after the game was released. What a load of s
t.Some points;
1. Mw2 was a terribly made game. There was no balance at all with numerous exploits and poor design choices throughout.
It's one redeeming feature was real quality map design. However, that is no good without anything else.
If that game was released today people would absolutely slate it. Rose-tinted glasses for sure.
2. ghosts was actually a very good game. Good spawns and good balance. By far the best hit detection of any cod.
3. People quoting lag compensation have no clue what they are talking about.
This seems to be the current excuse for being bad. It used to be all about the 'host advantage' but that's out of fashion now because you can't blame both at the same time.
4. Your Internet 'speed' has almost no bearing on your quality of connection to the game. 2mb up and 2mb down will perform the same (in theory) as 200mb up and 200mb down.
Online gaming uses very little bandwidth.
Any legitimate problems you are facing are more likely to do with throttling, router configuration, packet loss etc, etc. Or with the games hit detection (Treyarch's hit detection is notoriously iffy).
I have a very good Internet connection which I use solely for gaming. My router and network are configured correctly and I experience no issues.
I am able to consistently perform well, with any bad games being down to my own mistakes.
This is coming from an I.T. Consultant and former competitive fps player.
1. Mw2 was a terribly made game. There was no balance at all with numerous exploits and poor design choices throughout.
It's one redeeming feature was real quality map design. However, that is no good without anything else.
If that game was released today people would absolutely slate it. Rose-tinted glasses for sure.
2. ghosts was actually a very good game. Good spawns and good balance. By far the best hit detection of any cod.
3. People quoting lag compensation have no clue what they are talking about.
This seems to be the current excuse for being bad. It used to be all about the 'host advantage' but that's out of fashion now because you can't blame both at the same time.
4. Your Internet 'speed' has almost no bearing on your quality of connection to the game. 2mb up and 2mb down will perform the same (in theory) as 200mb up and 200mb down.
Online gaming uses very little bandwidth.
Any legitimate problems you are facing are more likely to do with throttling, router configuration, packet loss etc, etc. Or with the games hit detection (Treyarch's hit detection is notoriously iffy).
I have a very good Internet connection which I use solely for gaming. My router and network are configured correctly and I experience no issues.
I am able to consistently perform well, with any bad games being down to my own mistakes.
This is coming from an I.T. Consultant and former competitive fps player.
Art0ir said:
C.A.R. said:
Sniping seems really hard. I finally nailed it last night with 7 kills in a row, but was then ambushed by about 4 players! I wasn't camping as such, but moving about in the same area. I need a more powerful rifle and I can't unlock the next one for a while yet.
Domination has the same problems as old; come up against some teams and you'll find you just get constantly killed on spawning. Shame, one of my favourite modes, and good fun if the opposing team actually move about and play properly.
Locus with suppressor, thermal, FMG and Rapid Fire is good fun. Domination has the same problems as old; come up against some teams and you'll find you just get constantly killed on spawning. Shame, one of my favourite modes, and good fun if the opposing team actually move about and play properly.
Sniping has very little aim assist in this game to counter quick scoping. This makes it more difficult to master than previous games.
Edited by Adamantium84 on Saturday 21st November 19:05
You joined PH to talk exclusively about COD? Now, I'm a little long in the tooth, a lot slower, clearly no where near the player I used to be, but you're either talking out of your arse or you're wrong.
I can be in a game with friends, all half-decent players who I've played with for years, and we'd all be on negative ratios, the next game same lobby and roles reversed. None of us have changed our internet connections between games. In all the games over the years, there would be ZERO chance that every one of us finish on a negative K/D, it can and does happen on this game and it happens way too often (and I'm talking royally spanked rather than lose a few 50/50s).
"I'm a competitive gamer" seems have become new "I'm ex-forces" on PH. I'm no expert, but I have worked in the industry and had a monthly column in a trade magazine (some years ago) so although I don't have a technical background I'm not a clueless noob.
I can be in a game with friends, all half-decent players who I've played with for years, and we'd all be on negative ratios, the next game same lobby and roles reversed. None of us have changed our internet connections between games. In all the games over the years, there would be ZERO chance that every one of us finish on a negative K/D, it can and does happen on this game and it happens way too often (and I'm talking royally spanked rather than lose a few 50/50s).
"I'm a competitive gamer" seems have become new "I'm ex-forces" on PH. I'm no expert, but I have worked in the industry and had a monthly column in a trade magazine (some years ago) so although I don't have a technical background I'm not a clueless noob.
Adamantium84 said:
Some points;
1. Mw2 was a terribly made game. There was no balance at all with numerous exploits and poor design choices throughout.
It's one redeeming feature was real quality map design. However, that is no good without anything else.
If that game was released today people would absolutely slate it. Rose-tinted glasses for sure.
2. ghosts was actually a very good game. Good spawns and good balance. By far the best hit detection of any cod.
3. People quoting lag compensation have no clue what they are talking about.
This seems to be the current excuse for being bad. It used to be all about the 'host advantage' but that's out of fashion now because you can't blame both at the same time.
4. Your Internet 'speed' has almost no bearing on your quality of connection to the game. 2mb up and 2mb down will perform the same (in theory) as 200mb up and 200mb down.
Online gaming uses very little bandwidth.
Any legitimate problems you are facing are more likely to do with throttling, router configuration, packet loss etc, etc. Or with the games hit detection (Treyarch's hit detection is notoriously iffy).
I have a very good Internet connection which I use solely for gaming. My router and network are configured correctly and I experience no issues.
I am able to consistently perform well, with any bad games being down to my own mistakes.
This is coming from an I.T. Consultant and former competitive fps player.
1. Mw2 was a terribly made game. There was no balance at all with numerous exploits and poor design choices throughout.
It's one redeeming feature was real quality map design. However, that is no good without anything else.
If that game was released today people would absolutely slate it. Rose-tinted glasses for sure.
2. ghosts was actually a very good game. Good spawns and good balance. By far the best hit detection of any cod.
3. People quoting lag compensation have no clue what they are talking about.
This seems to be the current excuse for being bad. It used to be all about the 'host advantage' but that's out of fashion now because you can't blame both at the same time.
4. Your Internet 'speed' has almost no bearing on your quality of connection to the game. 2mb up and 2mb down will perform the same (in theory) as 200mb up and 200mb down.
Online gaming uses very little bandwidth.
Any legitimate problems you are facing are more likely to do with throttling, router configuration, packet loss etc, etc. Or with the games hit detection (Treyarch's hit detection is notoriously iffy).
I have a very good Internet connection which I use solely for gaming. My router and network are configured correctly and I experience no issues.
I am able to consistently perform well, with any bad games being down to my own mistakes.
This is coming from an I.T. Consultant and former competitive fps player.
22 said:
You joined PH to talk exclusively about COD? Now, I'm a little long in the tooth, a lot slower, clearly no where near the player I used to be, but you're either talking out of your arse or you're wrong.
I can be in a game with friends, all half-decent players who I've played with for years, and we'd all be on negative ratios, the next game same lobby and roles reversed. None of us have changed our internet connections between games. In all the games over the years, there would be ZERO chance that every one of us finish on a negative K/D, it can and does happen on this game and it happens way too often (and I'm talking royally spanked rather than lose a few 50/50s).
"I'm a competitive gamer" seems have become new "I'm ex-forces" on PH. I'm no expert, but I have worked in the industry and had a monthly column in a trade magazine (some years ago) so although I don't have a technical background I'm not a clueless noob.
No I have used the forum for years for car info and found myself looking at this thread at random. I can be in a game with friends, all half-decent players who I've played with for years, and we'd all be on negative ratios, the next game same lobby and roles reversed. None of us have changed our internet connections between games. In all the games over the years, there would be ZERO chance that every one of us finish on a negative K/D, it can and does happen on this game and it happens way too often (and I'm talking royally spanked rather than lose a few 50/50s).
"I'm a competitive gamer" seems have become new "I'm ex-forces" on PH. I'm no expert, but I have worked in the industry and had a monthly column in a trade magazine (some years ago) so although I don't have a technical background I'm not a clueless noob.
Adamantium84 said:
Some points;
1. Mw2 was a terribly made game. There was no balance at all with numerous exploits and poor design choices throughout.
It's one redeeming feature was real quality map design. However, that is no good without anything else.
If that game was released today people would absolutely slate it. Rose-tinted glasses for sure.
2. ghosts was actually a very good game. Good spawns and good balance. By far the best hit detection of any cod.
3. People quoting lag compensation have no clue what they are talking about.
This seems to be the current excuse for being bad. It used to be all about the 'host advantage' but that's out of fashion now because you can't blame both at the same time.
4. Your Internet 'speed' has almost no bearing on your quality of connection to the game. 2mb up and 2mb down will perform the same (in theory) as 200mb up and 200mb down.
Online gaming uses very little bandwidth.
Any legitimate problems you are facing are more likely to do with throttling, router configuration, packet loss etc, etc. Or with the games hit detection (Treyarch's hit detection is notoriously iffy).
I have a very good Internet connection which I use solely for gaming. My router and network are configured correctly and I experience no issues.
I am able to consistently perform well, with any bad games being down to my own mistakes.
This is coming from an I.T. Consultant and former competitive fps player.
1. Mw2 was a terribly made game. There was no balance at all with numerous exploits and poor design choices throughout.
It's one redeeming feature was real quality map design. However, that is no good without anything else.
If that game was released today people would absolutely slate it. Rose-tinted glasses for sure.
2. ghosts was actually a very good game. Good spawns and good balance. By far the best hit detection of any cod.
3. People quoting lag compensation have no clue what they are talking about.
This seems to be the current excuse for being bad. It used to be all about the 'host advantage' but that's out of fashion now because you can't blame both at the same time.
4. Your Internet 'speed' has almost no bearing on your quality of connection to the game. 2mb up and 2mb down will perform the same (in theory) as 200mb up and 200mb down.
Online gaming uses very little bandwidth.
Any legitimate problems you are facing are more likely to do with throttling, router configuration, packet loss etc, etc. Or with the games hit detection (Treyarch's hit detection is notoriously iffy).
I have a very good Internet connection which I use solely for gaming. My router and network are configured correctly and I experience no issues.
I am able to consistently perform well, with any bad games being down to my own mistakes.
This is coming from an I.T. Consultant and former competitive fps player.
When I saw the stupid things being said I registered to post.
I am neither talking out of my arse or wrong.
Whether you believe me or not I'm not bothered.
I should have known better than to try and educate people on the internet.
As you were people.
No, please educate us. Start of by explaining how 5 players can go from stats looking like 0/15, 5/20, 10/30 etc to being 15/0, 20/5, 30/10 in the very next game - or is it just the current excuse for being bad? Of course we're all older etc, but incredible how we ALL have a bad game together then two minutes later we're ALL back playing like we'd expect (in fairness, it's too easy when you get the "right" side of the game, so not really very satisfying).
There's absolutely more to it than being a sore loser etc, whether you can explain how so, remains to be seen.
There's absolutely more to it than being a sore loser etc, whether you can explain how so, remains to be seen.
Adamantium84 said:
No I have used the forum for years for car info and found myself looking at this thread at random.
When I saw the stupid things being said I registered to post.
I am neither talking out of my arse or wrong.
Whether you believe me or not I'm not bothered.
I should have known better than to try and educate people on the internet.
As you were people.
When I saw the stupid things being said I registered to post.
I am neither talking out of my arse or wrong.
Whether you believe me or not I'm not bothered.
I should have known better than to try and educate people on the internet.
As you were people.
22 said:
No, please educate us. Start of by explaining how 5 players can go from stats looking like 0/15, 5/20, 10/30 etc to being 15/0, 20/5, 30/10 in the very next game - or is it just the current excuse for being bad? Of course we're all older etc, but incredible how we ALL have a bad game together then two minutes later we're ALL back playing like we'd expect (in fairness, it's too easy when you get the "right" side of the game, so not really very satisfying).
There's absolutely more to it than being a sore loser etc, whether you can explain how so, remains to be seen.
No no, you're obviously right. It must be the game. It couldn't possibly be anything else. I hear chess has a very calm and relaxing pace to it. There's absolutely more to it than being a sore loser etc, whether you can explain how so, remains to be seen.
Adamantium84 said:
No I have used the forum for years for car info and found myself looking at this thread at random.
When I saw the stupid things being said I registered to post.
I am neither talking out of my arse or wrong.
Whether you believe me or not I'm not bothered.
I should have known better than to try and educate people on the internet.
As you were people.
When I saw the stupid things being said I registered to post.
I am neither talking out of my arse or wrong.
Whether you believe me or not I'm not bothered.
I should have known better than to try and educate people on the internet.
As you were people.
Answer me this then. How come I never experience this and am able to consistently destroy people every game.
Adamantium84 said:
How come I never experience this and am able to consistently destroy people every game.
This guy is one of the best spoof accounts I've seen on PH in ages. "Former competitive player", I bet he knows the colour of the digital boathouse. He's got the top online gaming setup, respects women and knows how a gentleman wears a hat.
One person being a self-declared beast at the game doesn't explain how whole lobbies/clans can have massively varying results game to game. Having a paddy because there are repeated experiences that go against your IT/competitive gamer insight isn't educating anybody. There have been similar threads on all the CoD games, I don't recall people broadly experiencing the same previously. I'm normally anti-Treyarch, but I WANT to like the game as seemed it had the potential to be half decent.
Mastodon2 said:
Adamantium84 said:
How come I never experience this and am able to consistently destroy people every game.
This guy is one of the best spoof accounts I've seen on PH in ages. "Former competitive player", I bet he knows the colour of the digital boathouse. He's got the top online gaming setup, respects women and knows how a gentleman wears a hat.Whatever I say you'll counter with 'but me and my friends sometimes have good games followed by bad games' as some kind of proof the game is broken. So there's no point me trying.
And yes I played unreal tournament, quake and cod 4 competitively on pc before I become old and my reactions started to slow.
Not that that is any kind of real acheivment, it was merely a way of qualifying that I know what I'm talking about.
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