Gaming PCs Thread...time for a sticky / running thread?

[curlyks2]

skinnyman said:

CPU - i7 4790k
GPU - MSI GTX 970 Twin Frozr edition (4GB)
MB - Gigabyte Z97 Gaming 3
RAM - 8GB Corsair Vengeance 2400mhz
SSD - 250GB Samung Evo 840
HD - 1TB Seagate Barracuda
PSU - EVGA 500W
Case - NZXT H440

Looks fine. Nice that the graphics card has a "silent mode". PSU is fine for what's there, but you'd want to upgrade it if you ever added a second GPU or changed that GTX970 for anything needing ~200W or more.

[Mattygooner]

Well, the 1080ti has just been announced and is apparently released next week, I am gonna sell the 980ti as soon as I can get an order in.

The 980ti in EVGA super clocked form is still a beast, but I have a Vive coming this week and am considering a 4K monitor or a 35 in predator and the 1080ti specs look very tempting.

So if anyone is in the market to upgrade to a 980ti, drop me a message.

Anyone else considering the 1080ti? The 980 hasn't put a foot wrong as of yet but I would like to be able to use high super sampling on the Vive to improve the view.

[Guvernator]

I will get a 1080ti but not straight away. It will be massively expensive when it first comes out and I can wait 6 months for the price to drop a bit as I'm not really in desperate need of one. I also have a 980ti which has taken everything I've thrown at it so far but then I only game at 1440p as I still think that's the current sweet spot.

I think my next step will be 1080ti plus a 4k monitor once they start releasing some decent gaming 4k displays, I just don't think they are quite there yet.

I dipped my toe into VR with the Playstation VR and I don't think the tech is mature enough yet so I'll wait for phase 2 of the VR cycle before getting one for the PC.

[Guvernator]

As stated I'd only upgrade to move up to 4k or thereabouts really, don't see any point in spending loads of money when the 980ti already easily hits 60fps plus at 1440p and it's usually more like 90fps.

I do notice that 4k monitors only go up to 60hz currently which effectively means you are capped at 60fps right? Will a single 1080ti even manage 4k above 60fps or would you need SLi? If 4k is a no go, what's the next logical step up in resolution from 1440p for gaming at decent FPS i.e. 60fps+ at ultra detail?

[Fabric]

Guvernator said:

If 4k is a no go, what's the next logical step up in resolution from 1440p for gaming at decent FPS i.e. 60fps+ at ultra detail?

Forget 4k and get yourself something with 200hz and G-Sync.

[Guvernator]

Fabric said:

Guvernator said:

If 4k is a no go, what's the next logical step up in resolution from 1440p for gaming at decent FPS i.e. 60fps+ at ultra detail?

Forget 4k and get yourself something with 200hz and G-Sync.

I already have 144hz and G-sync which is more than good enough in terms of refresh rate, not sure my eyes are even good enough to see a difference between that and 200hz. What I do want however is higher resolution, would be willing to go 100hz or possibly even 75 if it could be done at 4k.

[ReallyReallyGood]

skinnyman said:

RAM - 8GB Corsair Vengeance 2400mhz

Nothing to add, but I love how someone has given the name 'Vengeance' to some RAM.

[Fabric]

Guvernator said:

Fabric said:

Guvernator said:

If 4k is a no go, what's the next logical step up in resolution from 1440p for gaming at decent FPS i.e. 60fps+ at ultra detail?

Forget 4k and get yourself something with 200hz and G-Sync.

I already have 144hz and G-sync which is more than good enough in terms of refresh rate, not sure my eyes are even good enough to see a difference between that and 200hz. What I do want however is higher resolution, would be willing to go 100hz or possibly even 75 if it could be done at 4k.

Ah, gotcha. Wait until the end of April, perhaps contemplate harvesting a kidney in the meantime, and buy this on release; https://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27UQ/

[Guvernator]

Fabric said:

Ah, gotcha. Wait until the end of April, perhaps contemplate harvesting a kidney in the meantime, and buy this on release; https://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27UQ/

Ooohh lovely, I basically already have the 1440p version of that monitor so it would be a nice upgrade but I'm guessing the price will be extortionate. 144hz may be overkill for 4K though. Shame they don't do a 32" version as my current monitor is 27" which seemed huge when I first got it but its amazing how quickly you get used to it.

My ideal spec monitor would be 4k, 100hz, 32" full colour gamut and response time of less than 5ms. I wonder if a single 1080ti is going to be powerful enough to run 4k at a steady 60fps+ on ultra settings though? I'm not a massive fan of SLi for some reason.

[Jinx]

Now I don't need to upgrade (i7 3770, nVidia 970 gpu etc and only playing at 1200p on a 28inch monitor). But is anyone else looking at the new AMD Ryzen 1700 and thinking wouldn't 8 cores and 16 threads be nice? And with a mild over-clock effectively getting a £500 1800X for £300?

[V8A*ndy]

Jinx said:

Now I don't need to upgrade (i7 3770, nVidia 970 gpu etc and only playing at 1200p on a 28inch monitor). But is anyone else looking at the new AMD Ryzen 1700 and thinking wouldn't 8 cores and 16 threads be nice? And with a mild over-clock effectively getting a £500 1800X for £300?

If you are gaming at 1080p a Ryzen 7 CPU is a useless upgrade. Higher res then it's down to the GPU.

If you are video editing, streaming and other content creation then it's a bargin compared to what Intel are charging.

Can't see those 1700 chips clocking to 1800 spec. They seem to be all the same silicon with the lower SKUs just being the binned versions.

We should know more once the bios releases become more mature and memory speeds improve.

[Jinx]

V8A*ndy said:

If you are gaming at 1080p a Ryzen 7 CPU is a useless upgrade. Higher res then it's down to the GPU.

If you are video editing, streaming and other content creation then it's a bargin compared to what Intel are charging.

Can't see those 1700 chips clocking to 1800 spec. They seem to be all the same silicon with the lower SKUs just being the binned versions.

We should know more once the bios releases become more mature and memory speeds improve.

Hence the no need - but 16 threads? Also the additional motherboard connections (I'm on DDR3, only have 4 USB 3.0 ports and one 6GB/s Sata port (the others are 3), one m-sata) . As to the over clock - Overclockers forum
The benches seem to suggest the 1700 can match the 1800X.
So yes new monitor first
I also work from home from time to time and the excel Monte Carlo benches on Ryzen look pretty impressive. I'm going to wait until Vega is released (by then the early memory quibbles with Ryzen should be sorted) and think about upgrading the lot (well not my keyboard and some other bits) .

[V8A*ndy]

Jinx said:

V8A*ndy said:

If you are gaming at 1080p a Ryzen 7 CPU is a useless upgrade. Higher res then it's down to the GPU.

If you are video editing, streaming and other content creation then it's a bargin compared to what Intel are charging.

Can't see those 1700 chips clocking to 1800 spec. They seem to be all the same silicon with the lower SKUs just being the binned versions.

We should know more once the bios releases become more mature and memory speeds improve.

Hence the no need - but 16 threads? Also the additional motherboard connections (I'm on DDR3, only have 4 USB 3.0 ports and one 6GB/s Sata port (the others are 3), one m-sata) . As to the over clock - Overclockers forum
The benches seem to suggest the 1700 can match the 1800X.
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Currently, SMT turned off is running games faster. So a driver (rather than going into the BIOS) of multi threading on or off would be good. Ryzen would be good for those who need productivity and occasionally game.

The clocks currently don't make sense as all the test have been carried out on various manufacturers motherboards. Some reviewers are upping Vcores others not and then there is the memory speed issues. It's all a bit too new right now.

I am looking at a Ryzen setup myself due to the price. I am going Ultra wide for the monitor, however if Intel start dropping prices and X299 comes along soon, I know all those extra lanes and TB3 might come in handy.

My first build since my Athlon Barton

[130R]

Not sure I'll be rushing out to buy anything from EKWB again .. Luckily no damage and it's back and running again with a different cooler now.

[130R]

anonymous said:

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I will RMA it but lots of people have had issues with their AIO units leaking and they have actually discontinued them currently. It's a shame because performance/noise was really good as well.

[Mattygooner]

980Ti went pop I think, suddenly the screen went black, the system was still running fine in the background, restart and visual and audio beeps from the MB for no VGA. I can hear it boot up but the screen remains black, tried the connectors which were all fine and replaced the power cables from the PSU to the GPU with no change.

Put back my old Titan and back came the screen and all is well.

It's and EVGA ACX 2.0, have already started a ticket with EVGA and the product is well within the 3 year warranty life so hope for a painless RMA.

[Guvernator]

Perfect excuse to upgrade to a 1080

[Mattygooner]

True

Have to say that EVGA have been excellent, considering that this happened yesterday, response was immediate and the RMA has been approved and the labels already in my inbox.

3 year warranty from the manufacturer the norm?

[Guvernator]

Don't think so, most are 2 years at most I think although to be fair I rarely check warranty periods, most stuff usually lasts at least 3 years by which time if it breaks, it's usually time to upgrade anyway.

I originally left PC gaming a few years ago as I got a bit fed up with the constant upgrade cycle but I'm finding the newer stuff seems to run things at decent settings for quiet a long time before I feel the need to change so either they are getting better or progress is slowing down, I suspect it's a bit of both.

I thought I'd be all over a 1080 but the 980ti is still doing sterling work so I have no compunction to change at the moment. In fact I'll probably miss this gen completely and jump straight to Volta next year.

[born2bslow]

anonymous said:

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My current PC was a 2011 build, I tend to upgrade the GPU (I'm up to a 980ti at the moment), usually have to replace a power supply and it's still doing ok.

My plan is to put together a new build using black friday deals in November and give my current PC to the kids.