Gaming PCs Thread...time for a sticky / running thread?

[chow pan toon]

wolves_wanderer said:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/9259300

Post to add the Firestrike score. I went AMD for the graphics card as I use this machine for work and compute performance is still better with AMD. The machine runs in a silenced case and is pretty much inaudible even in a quiet room. Looking to go either 1440 or 4k next and still debating whether to crossfire the video card or wait for the next gen.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21904041

New Firestrike score with my new Vega 64. Very impressive card at 3440x1440 with Freesync. Not too noisy with an undervolt either.

[wst]

chow pan toon said:

wolves_wanderer said:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/9259300

Post to add the Firestrike score. I went AMD for the graphics card as I use this machine for work and compute performance is still better with AMD. The machine runs in a silenced case and is pretty much inaudible even in a quiet room. Looking to go either 1440 or 4k next and still debating whether to crossfire the video card or wait for the next gen.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/21904041

New Firestrike score with my new Vega 64. Very impressive card at 3440x1440 with Freesync. Not too noisy with an undervolt either.

I compared both of your results with what my current computer can achieve - https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13513196/fs/6471...

You can see the relentless march of progress there. Looks like a Vega 64 is equivalent to 2 R9 290X's.

I think I'll have to upgrade soon

[born2bslow]

I gained on firestrike by 4000 points for a £50 upgrade from an i7 950 to a Xeon x5670 oc'd @ 4.2. I'm pretty impressed with the old 980Ti chugging along nicely too..I'm going to have to chuck a 1080Ti in at some point (when the prices calm down) just to see what happens.

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13519707/fs/1351...

[HRL]

born2bslow said:

I gained on firestrike by 4000 points for a £50 upgrade from an i7 950 to a Xeon x5670 oc'd @ 4.2. I'm pretty impressed with the old 980Ti chugging along nicely too..I'm going to have to chuck a 1080Ti in at some point (when the prices calm down) just to see what happens.

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13519707/fs/1351...

Don't wait too long. Apparently prices are about to go up again.

[born2bslow]

anonymous said:

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Yes base firestrike although I get a pass on ultra and extreme stress tests as well, haven't run the test scores...

[born2bslow]

HRL said:

Don't wait too long. Apparently prices are about to go up again.

Yeah I heard that, but I wanted to build a complete PC using black friday deals and give this one to the kids, fingers crossed I can pick up a 1080ti

[tonyb1968]

born2bslow said:

Yeah I heard that, but I wanted to build a complete PC using black friday deals and give this one to the kids, fingers crossed I can pick up a 1080ti

This isnt the cheapest but it is one of the best 1080Ti's (make sure its the Xtreme and not the standard)


Gigabyte AORUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB XTREME Edition

[tonyb1968]

I just keep adding bits to my build, so its a fairly old system (well 5th gen Intel) i7 5930k 6 core processor, 16GB DDR4, 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Gigabyte AORUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti XTREME Ed. 11GB GDDR5X (which is my latest purchase and now in the PC )

Next is a 4k gaming monitor, looks like it will be early next year before the DP 1.4's are out with quantum dot technology, ASUS are doing a 27 inch 144mhz full 4k monitor but god knows how much it will cost, no doubt over £1200 if not over £1500, but it will last quite some time

Anyone else waiting for the next gen monitors for 4k gaming? (though a 32 inch would be nicer than the 27 inch).

[Digby]

tonyb1968 said:

born2bslow said:

Yeah I heard that, but I wanted to build a complete PC using black friday deals and give this one to the kids, fingers crossed I can pick up a 1080ti

This isnt the cheapest but it is one of the best 1080Ti's (make sure its the Xtreme and not the standard)


Gigabyte AORUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB XTREME Edition

I never understand why people waste good money on something you are hardly likely to notice.

Some of the top cards are only a few FPS apart. Temps rarely matter for most and most can OC a basic card to gain a few FPS if they really need 158 fps instead of 154 in a matter of seconds.

I don't think I have ever gone for a "top" card from new and not once have I noticed any difference in any game when compared to a more expensive edition card (have had some second hand)

I would base everything on noise and noise only. Nothing else matters at all, it really doesn't. Don't be fooled by dozens of "Super Deluxe Uber-Overclock-Gaming-FTW edition" rubbish words on the box.

[tonyb1968]

Digby said:

tonyb1968 said:

born2bslow said:

Yeah I heard that, but I wanted to build a complete PC using black friday deals and give this one to the kids, fingers crossed I can pick up a 1080ti

This isnt the cheapest but it is one of the best 1080Ti's (make sure its the Xtreme and not the standard)


Gigabyte AORUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB XTREME Edition

I never understand why people waste good money on something you are hardly likely to notice.

Some of the top cards are only a few FPS apart. Temps rarely matter for most and most can OC a basic card to gain a few FPS if they really need 158 fps instead of 154 in a matter of seconds.

I don't think I have ever gone for a "top" card from new and not once have I noticed any difference in any game when compared to a more expensive edition card (have had some second hand)

I would base everything on noise and noise only. Nothing else matters at all, it really doesn't. Don't be fooled by dozens of "Super Deluxe Uber-Overclock-Gaming-FTW edition" rubbish words on the box.

The point about going for THAT card is because it has the extra cooling and quiet ball bearing fans on it, its also up there as one of the best but not at the highest price for a 1080Ti compared to the standard version which actually gets slated a bit for its poor quality (this doesn't), so its worth doing homework on these cards (like I did before going out and buying, researched lots of reviews, you tube etc) to see the pro's and con's of them oh and it also runs cooler than pretty much any other one in its class

[Digby]

What was it slated for out of interest?

I just watched one review and the card you suggest ran higher temps than others on the test, the heat sink was flimsy and it wasn't the top performer.

But then as the reviewer said "It's pretty much like every other 1080Ti out there", because the differences on paper make no difference.

Unless cards are exploding regularly or you simply must create a lot more heat by gaining 200 more points in a benchmark by overclocking and a specific card allows this more so than others, I would just google (if I cared about noise anyway) for which one was the most quiet under load and order the cheapest I could find.

I didn't really care about noise when the 1080ti arrived so just went for the cheapest reference cooler versions I could find.

Turns out they are not that loud anyway, clock fine if you want them to and exactly like every card I have ever owned since the 90's, they never get hot enough to blow up.

Unfortunately, people are starting to treat GPU's like iPhones and for most, it's utterly pointless to spend more than you need.

[born2bslow]

My requirement for my 1080ti will be the cheapest triple fan version I can find, preferably one that vents out the back, which I think is the blower version...

I'm doing a full pc build when I get it so need to be realistic on price, and with more games using rmore cpu cores I want a good spec 6 core i7 to pair up with ii.

[tonyb1968]

Digby said:

What was it slated for out of interest?

I just watched one review and the card you suggest ran higher temps than others on the test, the heat sink was flimsy and it wasn't the top performer.

But then as the reviewer said "It's pretty much like every other 1080Ti out there", because the differences on paper make no difference.

Unless cards are exploding regularly or you simply must create a lot more heat by gaining 200 more points in a benchmark by overclocking and a specific card allows this more so than others, I would just google (if I cared about noise anyway) for which one was the most quiet under load and order the cheapest I could find.

I didn't really care about noise when the 1080ti arrived so just went for the cheapest reference cooler versions I could find.

Turns out they are not that loud anyway, clock fine if you want them to and exactly like every card I have ever owned since the 90's, they never get hot enough to blow up.

Unfortunately, people are starting to treat GPU's like iPhones and for most, it's utterly pointless to spend more than you need.

Then you looked at the none Xtreme edition which as I said before isnt as well built as the Xtreme which is one of the fastest and coolest ones out there

Some of the reviews for it.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_aoru...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/aorus-gtx-1080-ti-xt...
https://www.techspot.com/products/graphics-cards/g...
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/104269-aoru...

[born2bslow]

anonymous said:

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I find all these versions of the same card confusing. To be honest noise isn't a huge issue for me, as I have my man cave and get told off more for my mumbling and shouting at my gaming ineptitude than I do for the noise the PC/fans make. I don't notice it myself anyway as I use headphones when I use the Rift (which is most of my gaming time now)...

If there was a way to keep face and ears cool while using VR and a headset that would be a big seller in my opinion...more than fans on a gfx card anyway lol

[Digby]

tonyb1968 said:

Then you looked at the none Xtreme edition which as I said before isnt as well built as the Xtreme which is one of the fastest and coolest ones out there

Some of the reviews for it.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_aoru...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/aorus-gtx-1080-ti-xt...
https://www.techspot.com/products/graphics-cards/g...
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/104269-aoru...

First link I looked at. Extreme edition and regular 1080.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhBqrXWN1qg

Coolers look exactly the same?

Also says the software isn't very good.

They also fill three slots which can limit some people.

[Digby]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I went for two of these:

EVGA Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition

Can't really hear the fans in my case. Cost me £580 quid each.

They clock pretty well if you want to bother. I only ever did for some benchmark tests. GPU Clocking is almost completely pointless on modern systems if extra game performance is the goal.

[tonyb1968]

Digby said:

tonyb1968 said:

Then you looked at the none Xtreme edition which as I said before isnt as well built as the Xtreme which is one of the fastest and coolest ones out there

Some of the reviews for it.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_aoru...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/aorus-gtx-1080-ti-xt...
https://www.techspot.com/products/graphics-cards/g...
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/104269-aoru...

First link I looked at. Extreme edition and regular 1080.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhBqrXWN1qg

Coolers look exactly the same?

Also says the software isn't very good.

They also fill three slots which can limit some people.

The fans are the same but the Xtreme use better ball bearings and they are very quiet compared to the standard card, ok the Xtreme is large but has better cooling to boot, its just under 1kg (if you look at the Zotac Extreme, that is 1.6kg) and yes, these cards do take up more slots (so a bigger case is needed), BUT they are the fastest ones out there, and even though the software for OCing them is poor, you can use other manufacturers software which works perfectly well (I still have my MSI software and it seems to be recommended by quite a few people).

These 3 fan ones are probably the best you can get, the 2 fan ones will suit most people and fit better and the FE ones are normally known for having the best silicon but nothing else benefits them.

Overclocking on any of the top end extreme type cards will be limited as the factory OC is pushing it anyway, but they are usually done better than most people can oc out of the box.

Amazon do the Gigabyte 1080ti Xtreme for £745 as a prime customer, the Zotac is quicker but heavier (60%) and considerably more expensive.

[nalaz]

I'm hoping to pick up a nice 1440p screen in the black Friday sales.

[Zod]

nalaz said:

I'm hoping to pick up a nice 1440p screen in the black Friday sales.

Er, that’s six months away!

[Leicester Loyal]

What's the rough cost for a gaming PC that can play things like Banished, Rome Total War 2, Skyrim and Fallout? Been debating getting one for a while.

It's either get one now (I don't have a lot of space), or wait and get one when I move out and get a gaming laptop for now.