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Haven't noticed a drop in Shotgun power to be honest, it still seems ridiculous at akmost any range. The rear gunner in the attack plane is much better though. Agree with dodgey connections though, controls of the attack plane just froze earlier and sent me out of bounds where it then killed me.
My word the Xbox controller certainly turns you from kamikaze pilot into a semi useful airborne killer.
Having a lot of fun with the attack plane both in anti-behemoth and ground support configs.
Succeeding with the Artilley Truck as well. Post up somewhere on the high ground overlooking open areas/high traffic routes or flags and pound infantry with the main gun, then switch to the cannon should any enemy tanks get near. Very good at covering your squad when they're pushing a flag too allowing you to pound defenders and spot any you can't kill for your teammates to finish off.
Having a lot of fun with the attack plane both in anti-behemoth and ground support configs.
Succeeding with the Artilley Truck as well. Post up somewhere on the high ground overlooking open areas/high traffic routes or flags and pound infantry with the main gun, then switch to the cannon should any enemy tanks get near. Very good at covering your squad when they're pushing a flag too allowing you to pound defenders and spot any you can't kill for your teammates to finish off.
Well both the Helreigal and Hout are now s
t, the Mp-18 now beats the Hel on everything and the Lewis gun is better than the Hout.
Also strangely enough, the update finally installed itself today on my machine though i downloaded it and saw the new map etc. Plus i sometimes play on American servers to take advantage of the ping or what not (they do it to us) and it was remarkably dodgy, switched to a EU server and it improved yet for the Americans i was with, it was vice versa so i wonder if theyve changed it somehow. Havoc still couldnt figure out why he dies so much but in one instant he claimed his person was at the top of the stairs yet i saw it at the bottom with me
t, the Mp-18 now beats the Hel on everything and the Lewis gun is better than the Hout. Also strangely enough, the update finally installed itself today on my machine though i downloaded it and saw the new map etc. Plus i sometimes play on American servers to take advantage of the ping or what not (they do it to us) and it was remarkably dodgy, switched to a EU server and it improved yet for the Americans i was with, it was vice versa so i wonder if theyve changed it somehow. Havoc still couldnt figure out why he dies so much but in one instant he claimed his person was at the top of the stairs yet i saw it at the bottom with me
lemmingjames said:
Well both the Helreigal and Hout are now st, the Mp-18 now beats the Hel on everything and the Lewis gun is better than the Hout.
Also strangely enough, the update finally installed itself today on my machine though i downloaded it and saw the new map etc. Plus i sometimes play on American servers to take advantage of the ping or what not (they do it to us) and it was remarkably dodgy, switched to a EU server and it improved yet for the Americans i was with, it was vice versa so i wonder if theyve changed it somehow. Havoc still couldnt figure out why he dies so much but in one instant he claimed his person was at the top of the stairs yet i saw it at the bottom with me
24 meg connection tho....t, the Mp-18 now beats the Hel on everything and the Lewis gun is better than the Hout. Also strangely enough, the update finally installed itself today on my machine though i downloaded it and saw the new map etc. Plus i sometimes play on American servers to take advantage of the ping or what not (they do it to us) and it was remarkably dodgy, switched to a EU server and it improved yet for the Americans i was with, it was vice versa so i wonder if theyve changed it somehow. Havoc still couldnt figure out why he dies so much but in one instant he claimed his person was at the top of the stairs yet i saw it at the bottom with me
Shows how hopeless the servers are.
London424 said:
RemaL said:
GrumpyTwig said:
Jasandjules said:
WTF - I just put 30 rounds into the back of someone with the Hellfriegel and then followed him into the building and put another 6-8 rounds into his face and he still one shotted me and had 34 Hp left?!?!?
Also did similar with someone else who feckin' shot me with the same damn gun and I died!!
Anyone else having odd situations like this since the patch?
that's battlefield for ya!Also did similar with someone else who feckin' shot me with the same damn gun and I died!!
Anyone else having odd situations like this since the patch?
Still I love this game
To me the game is ruined by the fact you can't just jump on and have a quick game.
0915 joined a server this morning, no queue, straight to 'loading game' screen.
0932 - the server had completed its round, started loading for the next round and I wasn't in game yet (17mins in a loading screen).
0940 - still at "loading game".
0945 - still at "loading game" and I have to leave to go pick up the car.
30mins waiting for a game to load a map or two. Unbelievable. This sort of time frame is extant regardless of time played etc. Last night joining PHers I had time to have a st, make coffee, sit down, get up, go to the fridge, get chocolate out, play with the dog and drink my entire coffee, go back and make another cup before the squad screen came up. All the while sat on "loading game"
Forget all the rest of the glitches and st - that's a ballsache right there.
BF4 - 3 minutes from join to playing. WTAF.
0915 joined a server this morning, no queue, straight to 'loading game' screen.
0932 - the server had completed its round, started loading for the next round and I wasn't in game yet (17mins in a loading screen).
0940 - still at "loading game".
0945 - still at "loading game" and I have to leave to go pick up the car.
30mins waiting for a game to load a map or two. Unbelievable. This sort of time frame is extant regardless of time played etc. Last night joining PHers I had time to have a s
t, make coffee, sit down, get up, go to the fridge, get chocolate out, play with the dog and drink my entire coffee, go back and make another cup before the squad screen came up. All the while sat on "loading game"Forget all the rest of the glitches and s
t - that's a ballsache right there.BF4 - 3 minutes from join to playing. WTAF.
Havoc856-S said:
To me the game is ruined by the fact you can't just jump on and have a quick game.
0915 joined a server this morning, no queue, straight to 'loading game' screen.
0932 - the server had completed its round, started loading for the next round and I wasn't in game yet (17mins in a loading screen).
0940 - still at "loading game".
0945 - still at "loading game" and I have to leave to go pick up the car.
30mins waiting for a game to load a map or two. Unbelievable. This sort of time frame is extant regardless of time played etc. Last night joining PHers I had time to have a st, make coffee, sit down, get up, go to the fridge, get chocolate out, play with the dog and drink my entire coffee, go back and make another cup before the squad screen came up. All the while sat on "loading game"
Forget all the rest of the glitches and st - that's a ballsache right there.
BF4 - 3 minutes from join to playing. WTAF.
This is a bit wierd. Are you on PC? I think it crashed.0915 joined a server this morning, no queue, straight to 'loading game' screen.
0932 - the server had completed its round, started loading for the next round and I wasn't in game yet (17mins in a loading screen).
0940 - still at "loading game".
0945 - still at "loading game" and I have to leave to go pick up the car.
30mins waiting for a game to load a map or two. Unbelievable. This sort of time frame is extant regardless of time played etc. Last night joining PHers I had time to have a s
t, make coffee, sit down, get up, go to the fridge, get chocolate out, play with the dog and drink my entire coffee, go back and make another cup before the squad screen came up. All the while sat on "loading game"Forget all the rest of the glitches and s
t - that's a ballsache right there.BF4 - 3 minutes from join to playing. WTAF.
Ive never waited more than 2-3 minutes to load a game. Even after a game, the counter ticks down from 1 minute, then generally starts loading the next game which again is around 2-3 miniutes.
With 'instant on' with the Xbox, I am generally at a game loading screen within 20 seconds of turning the console on.
p1stonhead said:
Havoc856-S said:
To me the game is ruined by the fact you can't just jump on and have a quick game.
0915 joined a server this morning, no queue, straight to 'loading game' screen.
0932 - the server had completed its round, started loading for the next round and I wasn't in game yet (17mins in a loading screen).
0940 - still at "loading game".
0945 - still at "loading game" and I have to leave to go pick up the car.
30mins waiting for a game to load a map or two. Unbelievable. This sort of time frame is extant regardless of time played etc. Last night joining PHers I had time to have a st, make coffee, sit down, get up, go to the fridge, get chocolate out, play with the dog and drink my entire coffee, go back and make another cup before the squad screen came up. All the while sat on "loading game"
Forget all the rest of the glitches and st - that's a ballsache right there.
BF4 - 3 minutes from join to playing. WTAF.
This is a bit wierd. Are you on PC? I think it crashed.0915 joined a server this morning, no queue, straight to 'loading game' screen.
0932 - the server had completed its round, started loading for the next round and I wasn't in game yet (17mins in a loading screen).
0940 - still at "loading game".
0945 - still at "loading game" and I have to leave to go pick up the car.
30mins waiting for a game to load a map or two. Unbelievable. This sort of time frame is extant regardless of time played etc. Last night joining PHers I had time to have a s
t, make coffee, sit down, get up, go to the fridge, get chocolate out, play with the dog and drink my entire coffee, go back and make another cup before the squad screen came up. All the while sat on "loading game"Forget all the rest of the glitches and s
t - that's a ballsache right there.BF4 - 3 minutes from join to playing. WTAF.
Ive never waited more than 2-3 minutes to load a game. Even after a game, the counter ticks down from 1 minute, then generally starts loading the next game which again is around 2-3 miniutes.
With 'instant on' with the Xbox, I am generally at a game loading screen within 20 seconds of turning the console on.
I'll add, Havoc was joining the match I was in, there were free spaces as well so not trying to join a full server. This is PS4, BF4 for me is so much smoother and easier to join a friend or indeed join a match thats already on. Yesterday I went to join a recommended, favourite map. Sat there, 4 or 5 minutes passed, then game loads to me, on my own in an empty server. Superb. Then exit and off you go to the possibility of the black screen of boredom followed by disconnect...
thetapeworm said:
The "new" map isn't very inspiring, seems to be a basic copy & paste of elements in the existing (limited) selection that have been randomly scattered on a field with a lump in it. Hopefully the next ones will be better.
Agree, there are no new elements (except for a crashed blimp), just a new layout.Still, it makes a nice change from the existing ones.
Vantagemech said:
I'll add, Havoc was joining the match I was in, there were free spaces as well so not trying to join a full server. This is PS4, BF4 for me is so much smoother and easier to join a friend or indeed join a match thats already on. Yesterday I went to join a recommended, favourite map. Sat there, 4 or 5 minutes passed, then game loads to me, on my own in an empty server. Superb. Then exit and off you go to the possibility of the black screen of boredom followed by disconnect...
I agree, on PS4 at least, the squadding up with friends system is atrocious. I don't understand how they could fk it up so completely after having it run so smoothly for the past 4 games!thetapeworm said:
The "new" map isn't very inspiring, seems to be a basic copy & paste of elements in the existing (limited) selection that have been randomly scattered on a field with a lump in it. Hopefully the next ones will be better.
The map selection overall is a bit crap. It's a shame as the gameplay is excellent. Fao Fortress, the 'Young Men's Work' desert map and the one in the Italian Alps could all disappear overnight and I'd be overjoyed. They are hopeless. Amiens and Argonne Forest are excellent but there should be far, far more maps of that sort of quality. Monte Crappa aka the sniper fest.
Zero cover.
Fair enough I've been to Monte Cassino and in WW2 the german scrubbed the mountains of all cover but this isn't a faithful reproduction of WW1 so therefore.... add some damn cover DICE!!!
I quite like Amiens - it's very open play - the opportunity to break out and attack from the rear is always a bonus - reminds me of the battle of the bulge on BF1942 in that respect. The rest of the maps are linear forgettable dog st. The Argonnes is Metro in a woodblock.
They've royally fked up the mechanics in the latest patch IMO. The MP18 has seemingly gestated into a mid range LMG/Sniper. The Model 10A or whatever it is called is no different, same as the hellrigel. The 12G Auto shotgun is now virtually a USAS-12. Also connection strength seems to have undergone a significant change. I do better limiting my connection to 10meg than i do running the PS4 on full bore 48meg or sitting half the connection on the PS4 at 24meg. Ping is a consistent 3-18ms depending on server.
Servers themselves seem to be struggling. I shot a bloke in the open as he ran into cover and got the kill about three seconds later when he was well behind the walls. It'd be interesting to see whether they've actually upgraded the servers to meet the ever evolving demands of the software.
Also i've noticed the severe lack of AA on objects in the game. Look at the AA sight on the LMGs... There are less jagged edges in Goldeneye than on that.
Zero cover.
Fair enough I've been to Monte Cassino and in WW2 the german scrubbed the mountains of all cover but this isn't a faithful reproduction of WW1 so therefore.... add some damn cover DICE!!!
I quite like Amiens - it's very open play - the opportunity to break out and attack from the rear is always a bonus - reminds me of the battle of the bulge on BF1942 in that respect. The rest of the maps are linear forgettable dog s
t. The Argonnes is Metro in a woodblock. They've royally f
ked up the mechanics in the latest patch IMO. The MP18 has seemingly gestated into a mid range LMG/Sniper. The Model 10A or whatever it is called is no different, same as the hellrigel. The 12G Auto shotgun is now virtually a USAS-12. Also connection strength seems to have undergone a significant change. I do better limiting my connection to 10meg than i do running the PS4 on full bore 48meg or sitting half the connection on the PS4 at 24meg. Ping is a consistent 3-18ms depending on server.Servers themselves seem to be struggling. I shot a bloke in the open as he ran into cover and got the kill about three seconds later when he was well behind the walls. It'd be interesting to see whether they've actually upgraded the servers to meet the ever evolving demands of the software.
Also i've noticed the severe lack of AA on objects in the game. Look at the AA sight on the LMGs... There are less jagged edges in Goldeneye than on that.
Edited by Havoc856-S on Friday 16th December 23:16
Loyly said:
The map selection overall is a bit crap. It's a shame as the gameplay is excellent. Fao Fortress, the 'Young Men's Work' desert map and the one in the Italian Alps could all disappear overnight and I'd be overjoyed. They are hopeless. Amiens and Argonne Forest are excellent but there should be far, far more maps of that sort of quality.
Sounds like you just like close quarters stuff. There are (as always) a mix of maps where different ranges are dominant, and all the better for it. If it were 9 maps like argonne I'd be very quickly bored.One thing you can be sure about a battlefield game, is that people will play it to death while complaining about how crap it all is.
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