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London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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I often find myself getting caught out as 'first man through the door'...so have to remind myself to squad up and take things slower.

It's amazing how much damage you can do if you've got 4 or 5 of you all going in the same direction firing at the same time.

Jasandjules

69,924 posts

230 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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London424 said:
I often find myself getting caught out as 'first man through the door'...so have to remind myself to squad up and take things slower.

It's amazing how much damage you can do if you've got 4 or 5 of you all going in the same direction firing at the same time.
And putting a gas grenade through a house window often helps...

housen

2,366 posts

193 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Jasandjules said:
London424 said:
I often find myself getting caught out as 'first man through the door'...so have to remind myself to squad up and take things slower.

It's amazing how much damage you can do if you've got 4 or 5 of you all going in the same direction firing at the same time.
And putting a gas grenade through a house window often helps...
agree

but i notice that people disappear soo quickly

im with a group of people then bang no one on mini map

just like my real life :-( hahahahah

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Not sure about gas greandes. Useful area denial, but would be more so if the gas mask was an optional. Then again, it will stop you aiming properly.

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Well I just nearly lost a game of operations. On Mount Grappa they got to the last sector which is just a single fort.

Thankfully there is a AA gun in a ridiculous location overlooking the flag and I just sat on it and cleared house biggrin

Never seen the end of a operations game get that close before.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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housen said:
Jasandjules said:
London424 said:
I often find myself getting caught out as 'first man through the door'...so have to remind myself to squad up and take things slower.

It's amazing how much damage you can do if you've got 4 or 5 of you all going in the same direction firing at the same time.
And putting a gas grenade through a house window often helps...
agree

but i notice that people disappear soo quickly

im with a group of people then bang no one on mini map

just like my real life :-( hahahahah
I know what you mean but I'd say that this game is a completely different experience if you've got a squad working together and on comms with each other.

If you're on your own or on a rubbish squad where everyone goes and does their own thing it can seem like a really rubbish game.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Vantagemech said:
Im still crap, but trying to change the way I play. Dont run and gun like you could in BF4 as youll get picked off by an overpowered rifle.
Yeah that's killing me at the moment. I'm crap at the whole hiding in cover thing, but it's more key here than in 3 or 4.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
Vantagemech said:
Im still crap, but trying to change the way I play. Dont run and gun like you could in BF4 as youll get picked off by an overpowered rifle.
Yeah that's killing me at the moment. I'm crap at the whole hiding in cover thing, but it's more key here than in 3 or 4.
I'm finding it genuinely difficult to pick positions that actually are cover - it seems that a lot of the time in the trenches you can be attacked from any angle, which never seemed to be the case in earlier games?

I remember setting up shop in the central alley on Grand Bazaar on BF3 with my LMG pointing one way and clay mores protecting my back from the other - used to be able to rack up kills like that, but on BF1 anytime I stand still for more than 30 seconds (even in cover) I seem to get someone shooting me in the back. frown

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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youngsyr said:
I remember setting up shop in the central alley on Grand Bazaar on BF3 with my LMG pointing one way and clay mores protecting my back from the other - used to be able to rack up kills like that, but on BF1 anytime I stand still for more than 30 seconds (even in cover) I seem to get someone shooting me in the back. frown
Grand Bazaar, Siene Crossing, Metro, Operation Locker- these were all infantry-based, chokepoint heavy maps that were very easy to lock down, leading to the inevitable grenade/m320/mortar spam stand-offs.

I guess that is what they have tried to avoid this time?

I actually found them huge fun (particularly for the odd round of Team Deathmatch), as they were such a contrast to the majority of the larger, vehicle-heavy maps. In fact I'd go as far as to say they were some of my favourites! But they were not really ideal for promoting a fluid Conquest match.



youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Squirrelofwoe said:
youngsyr said:
I remember setting up shop in the central alley on Grand Bazaar on BF3 with my LMG pointing one way and clay mores protecting my back from the other - used to be able to rack up kills like that, but on BF1 anytime I stand still for more than 30 seconds (even in cover) I seem to get someone shooting me in the back. frown
Grand Bazaar, Siene Crossing, Metro, Operation Locker- these were all infantry-based, chokepoint heavy maps that were very easy to lock down, leading to the inevitable grenade/m320/mortar spam stand-offs.

I guess that is what they have tried to avoid this time?

I actually found them huge fun (particularly for the odd round of Team Deathmatch), as they were such a contrast to the majority of the larger, vehicle-heavy maps. In fact I'd go as far as to say they were some of my favourites! But they were not really ideal for promoting a fluid Conquest match.
Those were the maps that encouraged team work and strategy though, I'm not a big fan of the run and gun play style, I'd much rather identify a choke point or geographical advantage and make the most of it strategically.

Seems it's very difficult to do that in BF1 - or at least I haven't identified the choke points yet.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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youngsyr said:
Those were the maps that encouraged team work and strategy though, I'm not a big fan of the run and gun play style, I'd much rather identify a choke point or geographical advantage and make the most of it strategically.
They certainly encouraged it, but unfortunately 90% of players (on both sides) preferred to camp at the choke points spamming grenades as it was a pretty easy point/kill hoover, rather than working together as a group to flank around. I tended to find the majority of people played those maps specifically for that reason, not because they required coordinated flanks etc to make progress- they tended to be more interested in their personal kill count.

I quite agree though, I've always preferred playing with a more cautious/tactical approach than simply run & gun. I always found that as long as you were playing with at least one other (decent) player on comms, you could generally have a huge amount of fun on those maps without getting drawn into the 'meat-grinder'.

Will be interesting to see how this compares when I'm finally able to get onto it next week!



funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Told myself I wasn't going to buy this. However, it does look good.

May see how long I can wait before cracking. hehe

Actually, it could coincide with a new console purchase too. scratchchin

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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funkyrobot said:
Told myself I wasn't going to buy this. However, it does look good.

May see how long I can wait before cracking. hehe

Actually, it could coincide with a new console purchase too. scratchchin
Do it. Its the best battlefield for a long time.

Lynchie999

3,426 posts

154 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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p1stonhead said:
funkyrobot said:
Told myself I wasn't going to buy this. However, it does look good.

May see how long I can wait before cracking. hehe

Actually, it could coincide with a new console purchase too. scratchchin
Do it. Its the best battlefield for a long time.
i've just ordered it! - is there a PH "crew" ??


Dan_1981

17,402 posts

200 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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funkyrobot said:
Told myself I wasn't going to buy this. However, it does look good.

May see how long I can wait before cracking. hehe

Actually, it could coincide with a new console purchase too. scratchchin
I bought a new console for it.

Ooops.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Squirrelofwoe said:
youngsyr said:
Those were the maps that encouraged team work and strategy though, I'm not a big fan of the run and gun play style, I'd much rather identify a choke point or geographical advantage and make the most of it strategically.
They certainly encouraged it, but unfortunately 90% of players (on both sides) preferred to camp at the choke points spamming grenades as it was a pretty easy point/kill hoover, rather than working together as a group to flank around. I tended to find the majority of people played those maps specifically for that reason, not because they required coordinated flanks etc to make progress- they tended to be more interested in their personal kill count.

I quite agree though, I've always preferred playing with a more cautious/tactical approach than simply run & gun. I always found that as long as you were playing with at least one other (decent) player on comms, you could generally have a huge amount of fun on those maps without getting drawn into the 'meat-grinder'.

Will be interesting to see how this compares when I'm finally able to get onto it next week!
You might prefer the operations games, where you're attacking or defending - it tends to gear around defensible positions a bit more.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
You might prefer the operations games, where you're attacking or defending - it tends to gear around defensible positions a bit more.
I did always hugely enjoy 'Rush' on BF 3 & 4 to be fair, it had the objective element of Conquest with reduced vehicles and more defined 'areas'. Where as in Conquest you would painstakingly work your way from one objective to the next, only to find the entire enemy team had now spawned behind you and promptly shot you in the back!

When the enemy flanked behind you on Rush I'd applaud it as I figured it took a reasonable amount of skill/effort to do so.

That said, I still loved playing Conquest- as long as I was squadded up with people I knew (ideally on comms). If I was playing alone though it was always Rush.

That Operations mode does look interesting!

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Squirrelofwoe said:
CrutyRammers said:
You might prefer the operations games, where you're attacking or defending - it tends to gear around defensible positions a bit more.
I did always hugely enjoy 'Rush' on BF 3 & 4 to be fair, it had the objective element of Conquest with reduced vehicles and more defined 'areas'. Where as in Conquest you would painstakingly work your way from one objective to the next, only to find the entire enemy team had now spawned behind you and promptly shot you in the back!

When the enemy flanked behind you on Rush I'd applaud it as I figured it took a reasonable amount of skill/effort to do so.

That said, I still loved playing Conquest- as long as I was squadded up with people I knew (ideally on comms). If I was playing alone though it was always Rush.

That Operations mode does look interesting!
Its epic and a whole other level of fun.

eybic

9,212 posts

175 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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I was determined to complete the campaign modes before going online (don't mock me, it's just what I do) but thought I'd see what options etc I had available online, 6 hours of conquest later and I haven't looked back rofl I'll save campaign for next time PSN is down or an update is needed.

Operations is good then???

Lazadude

1,732 posts

162 months

Thursday 27th October 2016
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Lynchie999 said:
p1stonhead said:
funkyrobot said:
Actually, it could coincide with a new console purchase too. scratchchin
Do it. Its the best battlefield for a long time.
i've just ordered it! - is there a PH "crew" ??
Depends on the console, there's a PH Xbox one "club" which is open to be joined.