HTC Vive...let's try this VR stuff..

HTC Vive...let's try this VR stuff..

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Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Interesting, including the touch.

On the website
Get into PC VR for the lowest price ever.
Rift + Touch now £598

vs £759 for Vive.


born2bslow

1,674 posts

134 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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I'm looking forward to November now, if prices are starting to move hopefully there will be a good Black Friday deal on either the Rift or Vive. Just need to get a 1080ti to get the best out of it first.

MattyB_

2,012 posts

257 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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HTC aren't following suit:

https://uploadvr.com/gdc-2017-htc-doesnt-see-need-...

The Vive only really excels at room scale; unless you really, really want that, the Rift is the better headset, and now even cheaper too. I'd still personally back the Vive, as I'd prefer to be in camp "Valve" rather than bed-in with Facebook and Palmer....but with that price difference...

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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Why do you say the OR is better?

Most reviews I've seen have them pretty much pegged and it really comes down to personal preference. I'd say the OR has the edge with racing games just on supported titles but that's really just a first to market advantage. I've had a DK1, DK2, PSVR and a Vive, the reason I opted for Vive over OR for CV versions was pretty much that I got it sooner, it had room scale out of the box and it was Valve backed. I don't specifically have an issue with FB though.

I think that's been the same for a lot of people as I have read the Vive outsells the OR 2:1.

Might change now though.


Speckle

3,452 posts

216 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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I finally got round to trying the Oculus 'Bullet Train' free game over the weekend. Very short but, very impressive! Controls are rather clunky as they have been developed for Oculus touch, not the Vive controllers but, with a bit of practice I think they'll be fine.

The full game sequel 'Robo-Recall' has now been released and, from what I have seen online, it looks to be the first AAA game developed exclusively for VR. The only downside is having to pay £23 for unsupported software which could stop working with revive at any point. Although, I suppose it is no different to Dirt Rally or Project cars in that respect.

Before diving in and buying it, I'm going to try and get the developers version to work through revive (downloaded directly from Epic rather than through oculus store) as apparently you can play through the first level so, it should essentially be a free demo. A bit of a convoluted way of doing it but, hopefully worth it if it is as much fun as it looks.

Irrotational

1,577 posts

188 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Speckle said:
I finally got round to trying the Oculus 'Bullet Train' free game over the weekend. Very short but, very impressive! Controls are rather clunky as they have been developed for Oculus touch, not the Vive controllers but, with a bit of practice I think they'll be fine.

The full game sequel 'Robo-Recall' has now been released and, from what I have seen online, it looks to be the first AAA game developed exclusively for VR. The only downside is having to pay £23 for unsupported software which could stop working with revive at any point. Although, I suppose it is no different to Dirt Rally or Project cars in that respect.

Before diving in and buying it, I'm going to try and get the developers version to work through revive (downloaded directly from Epic rather than through oculus store) as apparently you can play through the first level so, it should essentially be a free demo. A bit of a convoluted way of doing it but, hopefully worth it if it is as much fun as it looks.
Huh - I got Robo recall free as part of my Touch bundle - forgot it was from the bullet train demo studio!! Will have to try that out later, the demo was cool (if easy).

BTW - I also got a wheelstandpro for my Birthday so I can now do Project cars properly! Thanks for the advice back in January!

Speckle

3,452 posts

216 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Irrotational said:
Huh - I got Robo recall free as part of my Touch bundle - forgot it was from the bullet train demo studio!! Will have to try that out later, the demo was cool (if easy).
Yup, it's a freebie for any new touch owners and quite a good one by the looks of it. I don't think there was any damage in bullet train (was there?) - I seemed to get hit with loads of bullets and rockets but, didn't die and just carried on regardless. I doubt Robo recall will be quite that simple!

Irrotational said:
BTW - I also got a wheelstandpro for my Birthday so I can now do Project cars properly! Thanks for the advice back in January!
Excellent, it makes a big difference, doesn't it. drivingthumbup

born2bslow

1,674 posts

134 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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VR is mind blowing, only had a small blast last night, but I can highly recommend the Rift experience in Project Cars, only did 4/5 laps of Bathurst and it extraordinary. I've played with triple screens for almost a year thinking it was good, the rift is beyond awesome. The drop in visual performance was nowhere near as bad as I remember it being when I tried the Vive at OCUK.

Irrotational

1,577 posts

188 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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born2bslow said:
VR is mind blowing, only had a small blast last night, but I can highly recommend the Rift experience in Project Cars, only did 4/5 laps of Bathurst and it extraordinary. I've played with triple screens for almost a year thinking it was good, the rift is beyond awesome. The drop in visual performance was nowhere near as bad as I remember it being when I tried the Vive at OCUK.
It's pretty cool smile did you get on ok setting up the controls? I have project cars on steam with a rift and it was a bit of a faff to get it setup. I think my reset view button has been unmapped again as well.

Speckle

3,452 posts

216 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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born2bslow said:
VR is mind blowing, only had a small blast last night, but I can highly recommend the Rift experience in Project Cars, only did 4/5 laps of Bathurst and it extraordinary. I've played with triple screens for almost a year thinking it was good, the rift is beyond awesome. The drop in visual performance was nowhere near as bad as I remember it being when I tried the Vive at OCUK.
It is so hard to explain to anyone who hasn't tried it, just how good it is! I can only imagine that the Vive you tried at OCUK wasn't optimised (by using SS) which may have effected the visuals. I've always found PCars in the Vive to look pretty darn good thumbup

Irrotational said:
It's pretty cool smile did you get on ok setting up the controls? I have project cars on steam with a rift and it was a bit of a faff to get it setup. I think my reset view button has been unmapped again as well.
Really? I don't remember it being a faff - I'm pretty sure I just installed the Jack Spade tweaker files for handling and everything else worked pretty much out of the box.

born2bslow

1,674 posts

134 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Hi Speckle, I think it was as simple as the Vive wasn't sitting on my face correctly, I've noticed already with the rift the smallest shift of position on my face causes the focus to change quite dramatically.

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Couple of good ones to try - Belko VR an escape the room, quite intense but well done with good voice acting and mostly logical problems to solve. You only have 15 minutes to escape so quite short but I've died twice so far and not made it out. It's plugging a movie but is a quality release. Recommended.

Nevrosa: Prelude - Demo, puzzle solving. Looks good and reasonably logical problems to solve that give you good feedback that you are heading in the right direction. I had a bit of a problem with control at one point but solved now.


satans worm

2,376 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Does anyone have any details on the upcoming LG VR headset?
All i know is that its supposed to be a better resolution and possible out later this year

red_slr

17,231 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Around 25-30% better resolution from what I hear.


Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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1440 x 1280 ish per eye it looks like, up from 1080 x 1200

Make it wireless, built in earphones and compatible with my existing lighthouses and controllers (so I don't need a full set) and I'm in.

I think Valve are doing the right thing here. Opening it up to all comers vs OR's approach of a closed ecosystem.


red_slr

17,231 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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I guess HTC will bring something out soon after with better resolution again. They cant stand still as its looking like VR is going to be moving at a very fast pace over the next 2-3 years.

Wireless has to be priority though IMHO

Speckle

3,452 posts

216 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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I agree that Wireless would be nice, and built in headphones for sure. Wired wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me though, if the trade off is a significant improvement in resolution without lag. I've very rarely found the cables to get in the way.

Mattygooner

5,301 posts

204 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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My Vive has just arrived, time to get stuck in.

red_slr

17,231 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Cant say that I want built in headphones. I use Bose QCs with mine so any outside sounds don't get in, makes it a lot more immersive - the headphones on the OR are not the best.

born2bslow

1,674 posts

134 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Wouldn't wireless = extra weight due to batteries? I think I'd take lightness and deal with the wires, although after only a couple of nights the wire sticking to the leather of my racing seat behind my head does annoy me a bit. I'm not a big sound junkie so headphones and sound quality isn't a deal breaker for me, I find the OR ones very comfortable which is important to me as I have very sensitive ears which get hot very easily (I find it distracting).