Pokemon Go - Don't be shy....

Pokemon Go - Don't be shy....

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Durzel

12,270 posts

168 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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The whole appraisal feature is weird and makes me wonder if Niantic actually have a roadmap for this game or are just winging it based on popular Reddit threads etc.

If you know what IVs are and care about them then you're probably already using IV calculators anyway, and would likely continue to do so because the results from the appraisal feature are vague. If you don't know what IVs are then the whole appraisal feature would be a complete mystery. There's no explanation for why it exists or how relevant it is, it assumes a level of knowledge that doesn't exist unless you've found out about it from friends or elsewhere.

Chester draws

1,412 posts

110 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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From what I've seen of the appraisal thing, he just has about 10 phrases that are trotted out randomly!

I've had him say pretty much the same thing about a 10cp pidgey as he said about an 1100 Pidgeot.

When he thinks that a 14cp bellsprout is "pretty decent", and its "stats are really strong! Impressive!" I'm not really inclined to believe a word he says.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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Chester draws said:
From what I've seen of the appraisal thing, he just has about 10 phrases that are trotted out randomly!

I've had him say pretty much the same thing about a 10cp pidgey as he said about an 1100 Pidgeot.

When he thinks that a 14cp bellsprout is "pretty decent", and its "stats are really strong! Impressive!" I'm not really inclined to believe a word he says.
Appraisal is based on hidden stats, and are not at all linked to CP.

Each Pokemon has an Attack, Defense and HP stat that are hidden, and can vary by 15 over the base stats for each Pokemon.

For casual users you can just ignore it, but having one with high stats could make it that much more competitive in combat.

I think it's a great feature, accurate enough for most, a nice way to know which ones to keep and which ones to ditch, once you know what phrases you're looking out for.

leglessAlex

5,450 posts

141 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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Digitalize said:
Chester draws said:
From what I've seen of the appraisal thing, he just has about 10 phrases that are trotted out randomly!

I've had him say pretty much the same thing about a 10cp pidgey as he said about an 1100 Pidgeot.

When he thinks that a 14cp bellsprout is "pretty decent", and its "stats are really strong! Impressive!" I'm not really inclined to believe a word he says.
Appraisal is based on hidden stats, and are not at all linked to CP.

Each Pokemon has an Attack, Defense and HP stat that are hidden, and can vary by 15 over the base stats for each Pokemon.

For casual users you can just ignore it, but having one with high stats could make it that much more competitive in combat.

I think it's a great feature, accurate enough for most, a nice way to know which ones to keep and which ones to ditch, once you know what phrases you're looking out for.
Exactly that, and if you use it in combination with an IV checker it can help let you know exactly what it's potential is if the IV checker tells you that it falls within a range.

Evolved a Charizard and Dodrio today, as well as finding a Scyther and Porygon. 124 in the Pokedex now and if I get three more Squirtles I'll be able to evolve a Blastoise too, might even be able to do that this evening.


NJK44

1,364 posts

96 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Stopped playing about 2 weeks ago. Got really boring without a working tracker.

Oh well, maybe I'll play it again one day.

Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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NJK44 said:
Stopped playing about 2 weeks ago. Got really boring without a working tracker.

Oh well, maybe I'll play it again one day.
I don't really understand why people get so hung up on the tracker? I've found that areas I'm in will either be universally st, with nothing but rats, pidgeys and weedles, or they'll have some decent stuff just from walking around.

I've picked up a 538 CP Evee in a supermarket carpark and a 1,000+ CP Pinsir in a little rural village in Somerset so far today. There's no way I would've tracked down the latter in particular with a tracker, so why worry about it?

Having said that, maybe I'm just having a lucky day. I hatched a 2k egg this morning and got a 500+ CP Pikachu! woohoo

Snubs

1,172 posts

139 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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I think the issue with a lack of tracker is how it effects the balance between effort vs. reward, randomness and grinding.

Without a tracking system you could spend a long time wandering around and find nothing of interest. The chances of finding something interesting are pretty low, so the only solution is to grind it out and spend hours trying to find Pokemon. Fine for the hardcore, but judging by how many people i see it playing in my area now compared to a few weeks back, most people go bored of it approximately 7,096 Ratattas ago.

Personally, i would put it the other way round and say what's wrong with having sites like Pokevision? I used to have a look at it at lunchtime in the office and would combine going out for lunch with a walk to where something worth catching was (if there was anything). What was so bad about that? I still had to go out and catch it, but it also meant i wasn't wasting my time. It's not like you can instantly complete your collection with it. If anything Pokevision just showed the amount of dross that spawns.

I can see why Niantic are banhammering people using bots and rightly so, but they also seem to be determined to force people into a massive grind. No thanks.




dudleybloke

19,824 posts

186 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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A quiet afternoon today!

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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People enjoying their local amenieties that their / their parents tax is paying to maintain.

No drunks puking, or druggies shooting up and dropping syringes.

Mabe 1% of them will read up on dudleys hostory annd its castles.

that's a win in my book smile

Silverage

2,034 posts

130 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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My lad is still chasing these things round. My daugher recently got a new phone and didn't bother to reinstall the app. I've kind of lost interest now.

leglessAlex

5,450 posts

141 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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It was always going to be a brief craze though wasn't it?


I think the only reason I'm still playing is because I'm on 130 in the pokedex and that's oh-so-close to the 142 maximum possible for the UK. Gotta catch 'em all...

272BHP

5,064 posts

236 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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It's an awkward target audience for this game isn't it?

Kids from the age of about 6-13 are still crazy about this game - they are everywhere! Trouble is it is only really the 11 year olds and up who have phones and are allowed to travel around by themselves. The others are begging their parents to take them out for walks and bike rides and asking to borrow their phone.

My son is still playing - on my bloody phone - he screamed his head off in the middle of town today when he hatched a 2000cp Snorlax. Usually he is quite a shy lad but if he sees someone else playing the game he has no problem introducing himself. Also he must have travelled about 15 mile yesterday on his bike and without any complaints of tiredness.






MiniMan64

16,926 posts

190 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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I suspect that the great British winter weather might soon put a dampener on things!

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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I still see more people roughly my age (Early 20's) playing it than any other, which makes sense as we usually have less responsibilities, the ability to get around/be independent, and are nostalgic of our childhood.

Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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272BHP said:
It's an awkward target audience for this game isn't it?

Kids from the age of about 6-13 are still crazy about this game - they are everywhere! Trouble is it is only really the 11 year olds and up who have phones and are allowed to travel around by themselves. The others are begging their parents to take them out for walks and bike rides and asking to borrow their phone.

My son is still playing - on my bloody phone - he screamed his head off in the middle of town today when he hatched a 2000cp Snorlax. Usually he is quite a shy lad but if he sees someone else playing the game he has no problem introducing himself. Also he must have travelled about 15 mile yesterday on his bike and without any complaints of tiredness.
Same with my boys, except oldest has his own phone, youngest grabs my wife's, and I play on mine!

Given that my office is in the Southbank right in the middle of London, they don't half get jealous of what I pick up if I go out for a stroll at lunchtime! hehe

Zigster

1,653 posts

144 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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272BHP said:
It's an awkward target audience for this game isn't it?

Kids from the age of about 6-13 are still crazy about this game - they are everywhere! Trouble is it is only really the 11 year olds and up who have phones and are allowed to travel around by themselves. The others are begging their parents to take them out for walks and bike rides and asking to borrow their phone.

My son is still playing - on my bloody phone - he screamed his head off in the middle of town today when he hatched a 2000cp Snorlax. Usually he is quite a shy lad but if he sees someone else playing the game he has no problem introducing himself. Also he must have travelled about 15 mile yesterday on his bike and without any complaints of tiredness.
My eldest (9) was in tears at Palma airport because a Sandslash appeared which his younger brother brother managed to catch but he didn't (the Sandslash ran away). My wife thought he was being ridiculous because she doesn't get gaming, but I felt for the little fellow.

There were loads of Mr Mimes in Mallorca - the boys thought that was great, but they seem to be more common in the UK now as we've caught a few since we've been back.

They (ahem) are both on about 91-92 in the Pokedex. They're still enjoying it - I go for a walk at lunchtime and caught them a Porygon on Monday and a Diglett yesterday.

I definitely need to have a wander over to Holland Park for the fabled Bulbasaur nest.

Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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I've been one single Magikarp candy short of being able to evolve for the last 3 days. Manchester is utterly crap for finding pokemon!! hehe

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Kermit power said:
I've been one single Magikarp candy short of being able to evolve for the last 3 days. Manchester is utterly crap for finding pokemon!! hehe
Haha! Got so many of them I'm ⅞ of the way toward a fourth Gyarados! I even had a 5km egg hatch into a Magikarp yesterday! Admittedly that was a quite impressive CP135 mind....

V8FGO

1,644 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Kermit power said:
I've been one single Magikarp candy short of being able to evolve for the last 3 days. Manchester is utterly crap for finding pokemon!! hehe
Chester Zoo have held 2 after hours charity events. Managed to raise £34k from both, might be worth checking if they are having any more.There was a stampede to the main enterence when a Snorlax spawned at the first one biggrin I must say my fitness has improved the amount of walking me and my wife have put in.

Level 23 - 114 Pokedex.

leglessAlex

5,450 posts

141 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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K12beano said:
Kermit power said:
I've been one single Magikarp candy short of being able to evolve for the last 3 days. Manchester is utterly crap for finding pokemon!! hehe
Haha! Got so many of them I'm ? of the way toward a fourth Gyarados! I even had a 5km egg hatch into a Magikarp yesterday! Admittedly that was a quite impressive CP135 mind....
Oh snap! Got three Gyarados', on 360 candies now with a 166CP high IV Magikarp waiting to be evolved.


Also on 136 out of 142, I just need some more Abra, Geodude and Omanyte for my Alakazam, Golem and Omastar, and then I need to hatch or catch a Chansey, Snorlax and a few more Grimers (I say hatch for Grimer as it's rare as hell in the wild). I know I can get the first three quite easily, but the last three are going to cause problems. I might just give up once I'm on 139.