Epilepsy/Seizures and driving.

Epilepsy/Seizures and driving.

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chilistrucker

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4,541 posts

151 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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Hello all. Does anybody on here suffer with Epilepsy/Seizures and how does this affect your rights on having/keeping a driving licence. Just after general info really car wise, but if anyone has stories relating to a truck or bus licence I would also be very interested in this also.
Please PM me if you don't want to put it on a general forum, any help greatly appreciated, thanks, Neil wink

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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Hi Neil, I thought you were over this now?

NorthDave

2,366 posts

232 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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This was covered in the news recently in a negative way - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/19/dvla...

As I understand it the minimum is 6 months after your last seizure and can go up from there depending on what some faceless "panel" decide. I'm not sure about the heavy goods but I do know they remove at least one of the classes when you get a normal license back. I think for newer drivers they didn't get that class anyway without a further test.

If you are going through it then I would be explaining your worries to your doctor / consultant and asking them to fill the forms out sympathetically. You can also request copies of all information - although this takes ages and there is also no obvious way of debating with the "panel" anyway.

You are in the lap of the gods essentially and they don't move fast - everything takes an age.

gus607

917 posts

136 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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I'd have thought no chance of retaining any driving license for someone suffering with this condition.

I'm sure that you have to be twelve months free of seizures etc before you can apply for a license ?

chilistrucker

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4,541 posts

151 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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whoami said:
Hi Neil, I thought you were over this now?
Sort of. I'd got over dealing with the medical panel at the Dvla as no matter what evidence I produced about my fitness to drive, they just point blank refused to listen. I'd exhausted every avenue, my MP, the transport minister and the Dvla all proved worthless as the medical panel just kept coming up with the same very dubious ruling on my case.
In light of the ombudsmans findings this week though with regards to the failings of the Dvla medical panel I feel it could certainly be worth trying to get these wrongs put right. It won't cost me anything other than my time, and I would take great satisfaction in getting anything that resembles an apology or my lorry licence back from the idiots that have made the last 2 years a struggle.

The ironic thing is though, I still haven't to this day in my lifetime ever suffered a seizure or had any treatment or medication that is seizure related, in fact I never had any medication at all after my injuries other than strong headache tablets.
The whole thing stinks as much today, as it did 2 years ago!!!

The ombudsmans findings certainly fill me with some hope.

NorthDave

2,366 posts

232 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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chilistrucker said:
Sort of. I'd got over dealing with the medical panel at the Dvla as no matter what evidence I produced about my fitness to drive, they just point blank refused to listen. I'd exhausted every avenue, my MP, the transport minister and the Dvla all proved worthless as the medical panel just kept coming up with the same very dubious ruling on my case.
In light of the ombudsmans findings this week though with regards to the failings of the Dvla medical panel I feel it could certainly be worth trying to get these wrongs put right. It won't cost me anything other than my time, and I would take great satisfaction in getting anything that resembles an apology or my lorry licence back from the idiots that have made the last 2 years a struggle.

The ironic thing is though, I still haven't to this day in my lifetime ever suffered a seizure or had any treatment or medication that is seizure related, in fact I never had any medication at all after my injuries other than strong headache tablets.
The whole thing stinks as much today, as it did 2 years ago!!!

The ombudsmans findings certainly fill me with some hope.
That does sound rubbish. Best of luck with getting it resolved!

Leroy902

1,540 posts

103 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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I'm a little confused, if you've never had a seizure, how/why have you been diagnosed with epilepsy?

12 months without a seizure before you can reapply for your licence is generally the rule they apply.

Unfortunately what they don't seem to understand is that there's so many different types of seizures, and the effect they have can differ considerably from one person to another.
The idea 'if you have epilepsy you can't/shouldn't drive' is ridiculous.


op, have you been to see a hospital consultant/neurologist?
I'd have thought a report from him/her would be sufficient...

Edited by Leroy902 on Saturday 22 October 18:51


Edited by Leroy902 on Saturday 22 October 19:15

chilistrucker

Original Poster:

4,541 posts

151 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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NorthDave said:
That does sound rubbish. Best of luck with getting it resolved!
Cheers.
Thanks Leroy, I did think it was a 12 month thing with the seizures.
I was searching stuff online, and found the minutes of 1 of the DVLA medical boards meetings. It stated that they themselves acknowledged that they needed to address the whole seizure risk categories as what they had in place, was generalizing to much.
No st Sherlocks. These minutes were from early this year iirc

Riley Blue

20,952 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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Leroy902 said:
Unfortunately what they don't seem to understand is that there's so many different types of seizures, and the effect they have on people can differ considerably from person to person.
The idea 'if you have epilepsy you can't/shouldn't drive is ridiculous'.
I think you'll find they do, at least the form that needs to be completed differentiates between waking and sleeping, blackouts and altered levels of conciousness, whether medication causes drowsiness and Gp and/or consultants will provide additional information.

Here's the form: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

and the advice page definitely mentions different types of seizure:

https://www.gov.uk/epilepsy-and-driving