Has anyone else "gone off" games?

Has anyone else "gone off" games?

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egor110

16,817 posts

202 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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xRIEx said:
egor110 said:
There seems to be far more community on consoles compared to pc.

Just look at how many pistonhead members play gta, battlefield, destiny etc together , it seems the pc gamers are quite happy to play solo enjoying the better graphics.
I don't necessarily think so - there are huge communities around PC and AFAIK no major E-sports leagues or competitions around console games. Look at CS:GO, Overwatch, League of Legends, Dota 2 and then all the MMOs like World of Warcraft, Day Z, Eve Online etc. etc.

I've played a few clan games in Squad, but I don't know any other PHers who play Squad.
Esports is a whole different kettle of fish.

Were on pistonheads and the console players just interact more online , for instance for years there's been a gta race night every sunday at 8pm where people just meet up race and have a laugh.

It's not about admiring the graphics , i'm not even sure it's about racing but a community has formed and i don't see anything similar with pistonheads pc gamers , although i'm quite happy to be proven wrong.

moustachebandit

1,264 posts

142 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I have started to go off gaming and the reason is because the games (at least on console) are on the whole complete tripe. In the past 5 or so years games have started to blend into each other (at least to me) and there is very little to distinguish a game from all the others in the market.

What doesn't help is the fact that (on consoles at least) the genres have narrowed down so there is now very little variety. PC is clearly where its at if you don't follow the main stream gaming conventions but then you don't have the convenience of consoles, you cant play sat on your sofa and then there is messing around to get games to even run.

If Sony / MS are serious about making their consoles real challengers to PC's then they need to start giving us the broad range of games you can get on PC, rather than the mindless drivel that finds its way onto console at the moment. Personally I would love to see more games like Civ6 on console but thats never going to happen as console focus groups made up of 12 year old boys, with ADD want FPS games and big explosions.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

147 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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egor110 said:
xRIEx said:
egor110 said:
There seems to be far more community on consoles compared to pc.

Just look at how many pistonhead members play gta, battlefield, destiny etc together , it seems the pc gamers are quite happy to play solo enjoying the better graphics.
I don't necessarily think so - there are huge communities around PC and AFAIK no major E-sports leagues or competitions around console games. Look at CS:GO, Overwatch, League of Legends, Dota 2 and then all the MMOs like World of Warcraft, Day Z, Eve Online etc. etc.

I've played a few clan games in Squad, but I don't know any other PHers who play Squad.
Esports is a whole different kettle of fish.

Were on pistonheads and the console players just interact more online , for instance for years there's been a gta race night every sunday at 8pm where people just meet up race and have a laugh.

It's not about admiring the graphics , i'm not even sure it's about racing but a community has formed and i don't see anything similar with pistonheads pc gamers , although i'm quite happy to be proven wrong.
I thought in your previous post you were talking about community in general, not PC/PH and Console/PH crossover.

ribiero

538 posts

165 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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xRIEx said:
I don't necessarily think so - there are huge communities around PC and AFAIK no major E-sports leagues or competitions around console games. Look at CS:GO, Overwatch, League of Legends, Dota 2 and then all the MMOs like World of Warcraft, Day Z, Eve Online etc. etc.
Fifa?

egor110

16,817 posts

202 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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moustachebandit said:
I have started to go off gaming and the reason is because the games (at least on console) are on the whole complete tripe. In the past 5 or so years games have started to blend into each other (at least to me) and there is very little to distinguish a game from all the others in the market.

What doesn't help is the fact that (on consoles at least) the genres have narrowed down so there is now very little variety. PC is clearly where its at if you don't follow the main stream gaming conventions but then you don't have the convenience of consoles, you cant play sat on your sofa and then there is messing around to get games to even run.

If Sony / MS are serious about making their consoles real challengers to PC's then they need to start giving us the broad range of games you can get on PC, rather than the mindless drivel that finds its way onto console at the moment. Personally I would love to see more games like Civ6 on console but thats never going to happen as console focus groups made up of 12 year old boys, with ADD want FPS games and big explosions.
I'm not so sure sony/ms care about challenging pc's , it's sales that count i'd guess many more console games are sold compared to pc.

I agree that most console games seem to be the same theme rehashed though.

The thing i like about gta is that yes you can just go around blowing people up , but you can create your own tracks or just make money using the various business the game provides plus it's the one game i keep coming back to but i think that's more down to the people online i play with than the game itself.

TommoAE86

2,659 posts

126 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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PC is catching up to console/mobile according to PWC clicky although the first comment disagrees

You've hit the nail on the head with GTA, I don't play it online anymore as the group I was playing with moved onto other games and the grind just gets too much with randoms. With a good group together than it's tons and tons of fun.

Can anyone tell me if there was anything like Journey on PC before it came out? I googled the ones I could remember (Submerged/Firewatch) and they came out after Journey (2012) so maybe the sales weren't enough on consoles to justify exploring that type of game further?


CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

197 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I'm kind of the oppopsite. I used to play loads of games but now I can't be bothered with many, aside from FPS games like BF1, and the odd rts/builder on the pc now and again. I don't play a lot so I guess I want the time I do spend gaming (realistically only an hour a couple of times a week, with a 3 hour binge with mates on a friday) to be action packed. If I've only got an hour to play I don't want to be spending it traipsing across a map looking for a level-98 widget, I want constant explosions and teabagging.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

147 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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TommoAE86 said:
PC is catching up to console/mobile according to PWC clicky although the first comment disagrees
One point of perspective is that the article is discussing PC as a platform against {PS4 as a platform} + {XB1 as a platform} + {Wii as a platform}, etc. PC platform is not only bigger than PS4, and XB1; it's not only the largest platform, it's bigger than all the other platforms combined.

PC market share >= PS4 + PS3 + XB360 + XB1 + Wii|WiiU + ...

That, of course, is not equivalent to saying the PC is in any way better - every gamer has their own requirements and a platform suited to those requirements.

Steven_RW

1,727 posts

201 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I think you just become more fussy with age. It has to be brilliant or I just turn it off. It needs to be a game that makes you stay up late even when you shouldn't. I often buy games, try them and then just discard them as they don't bite me... The following is some thoughts and examples:

...Then you play bloodborne and with no understanding of what you are getting in to you play many many hours. Then try Dark Souls 1 and 2 and then 3 and so on. Staying up to the little hours without even noticing.

Skyrim.. just wander around with the surround sound volume right up. Forget the map, just adventure and experience it all. Fantastic. 300 hours later. Completed it all as a melee beast and a stealth archer. Entirely different experiences.

A game just needs to be brilliant to hold my attention. Even GTA5 bores me after I have done one mission. I do some random madness for 30 mins but have no hunger to see what happens next, so I turn it off and have to come back to it with more enthusiasm.

Alien Isolation.. brilliant again. Challenging and great environment.

I reckon the opportunities are there to get you back into it, just don't waste anytime with anything other than a top recommended game.

Cheers

RW

silobass

1,176 posts

101 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Not good to hear you all getting bored with gaming, I'm about to buy a PS4. Mainly for two player games but also coming from Warcraft, I need to play a game with an end(ish) There's too many things to do in WoW, you could play it full time.

Will end up with GTA at some point, hopefully see you on a Sunday night soon.

egor110

16,817 posts

202 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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silobass said:
Not good to hear you all getting bored with gaming, I'm about to buy a PS4. Mainly for two player games but also coming from Warcraft, I need to play a game with an end(ish) There's too many things to do in WoW, you could play it full time.

Will end up with GTA at some point, hopefully see you on a Sunday night soon.
Get your name on the crew wiki and we can help you get money, unlock car mods etc.

silobass

1,176 posts

101 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Sweet, cheers smile Might not be until Christmas I get GTAV but will post on the wiki as soon as I do. Just ordered the console with the COD package.

Bullett

10,873 posts

183 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I go through phases. I still love it I just don't get the time like I used to.
I really can't be bothered with multi-player/online stuff especially the shooters and double the ones with levels/perks whatever as it's nearly impossible for a newbie to get started as you don't know the maps/tactics and you are 'weak' with less armour/health etc.
The communities can be pretty horrid as well. If you want unwelcoming try a moba!

I'm enjoying VR though.


born2bslow

1,674 posts

133 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I think VR is a good thing for gaming. Rather than trot out the latest rehash of an old favourite with better pixel count and improved physics (which has been the majority of AAA games over the last few years) developers are having to think about what gamers want from the experience, starting from scratch. Interesting times, even if the hardware isn't quite there yet.

I find I get far more enjoyment virtually lapping Spa/Oulton/Silverstone than sitting semi-comatose in front of the goggle box. I think it's because I'm actually doing something that I would enjoy doing in real life if it wasn't such a drain on money/time resources.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

197 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Bullett said:
I really can't be bothered with multi-player/online stuff especially the shooters and double the ones with levels/perks whatever as it's nearly impossible for a newbie to get started as you don't know the maps/tactics and you are 'weak' with less armour/health etc.
The communities can be pretty horrid as well. If you want unwelcoming try a moba!
I've never really found the unwelcoming thing, but then I've never played CoD wink.

HarryFlatters

4,203 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I think that as more of us use computers at work, we're less inclined to want to spend several hours staring at a monitor when we get home.

When I was gaming a lot, I was either at school, or working in retail. Neither of which required me to spend 8 hours a day staring at a PC.

Alias218

1,485 posts

161 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I feel like this sometimes. I don't have the patience anymore for it although I still enjoy it. The problem is that I used to be able to entertain myself easily (I used to draw for hours at a time), now I can't watch TV without sitting on my phone, which ironically is what I'm doing now (The Simpsons ain't what it used to be).

Still, I'm hoping the gratuitous violence of Spacehulk: Deathwing will turn things around. If not, then it's back to War Thunder to keep grinding for my Tiger II.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

181 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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No mention of Rocket League?

It's the game I come back to when other games have become a bit too much. Switch brain off and worry about punt a football into the goal with a car. Utter gleeful silliness is sometimes exactly what is needed. I'll often dip into it for a week or two before getting back into slightly heavier games.

vsonix

3,858 posts

162 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I have been a gamer since my teens, starting with MSX, moving onto Commodore Amiga, then PC and original Xbox. I then stopped for a few years, got back into games again a bit as my lodger works for a games store and gets to borrow stuff from work etc etc. It seems to me that the gaming industry is worth more these days than ever before (look at the sales of GTA5/online) for the big software houses and the indie scene on PS4 is very healthy compared to 10 years ago when indie game were barely worth producing.
However the industry strikes me as very flawed. If you go to the PlayStation store, there are more titles on pre-order than there are available to buy. And the prices are not trivial. It seems to me that PS store is acting more like a kickstarter for the developers! Personally I am loath to pay £50+ for a game that has no release date, has not been reviewed (so may be crap), is not even the full version (DLC or season pass costs extra) and may not even see the light of day!

Furthermore, nobody wants to make decent single player games any more; it's all about multiplayer online frag-fests and microtransactions. If games do have a single-player campaign it's usually woefully short, six to eight hours in length. The 'AAA' titles are all the big yearly franchises where the actual game content varies little year on year - EA sports doing new football or hockey games, new Call of Duty etc.

When you do get something promising like No Man's Sky it ends up totally broken, never to be fixed.
There's a shortage of new fresh ideas. And the hardware manufacturers seem to be all over the place at the moment - Microsoft appear to be in disarray, Steam Box looked promising but seems to be vapourware. Sony could be onto a winner with the VR headsets but have made it too expensive and it's not supported with enough games or VR patches for existing games. Meanwhile there's a '.5' generation due on M$ and P$ which appears to offer few advantages other than 4k which hardly anyone has the screens for, it looks to me like there's a lot of money wasted. The Playstation 4.5 should be set up especially for VR and come with the VR headset!

Pure and simple it seems that value for money for consumers is at an all time low, especially in the console market.

vsonix

3,858 posts

162 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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And speaking of GTA5 - it's my favourite game on current gen - or it would be. but now Rockstar have got greedy, they promised single player DLC on day one but instead they're putting all the development into the online game, which has its moments but again, is attempting to nickel and dime everyone to death with microtransactions - it's become 'grand purchase auto' not 'grand theft auto'. Meanwhile there's been nothing to refresh the 1p experience in at least two years frown
Thing is, not everyone WANTS to play online all the time. The OP mentions San Andreas, I am fully in agreement, that game was a classic of the sandbox genre.