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Zad said:
It doesn't take that long to get through the new content, but it is much more imaginative than the old Outland geography. The dungeon instances are more linear and generally quite short, which for me makes for better playability. I just don't have 4-5 hours to slog through a raid! The new PvP area called Wintergrasp is good fun, with various mechanisms to ensure that it isn't the same faction that wins time after time.
We're hitting Vaults of Archavon and Obsidian Sanctum tomorrow. 2nd time on VoA so it should take 1 or 2 goes - maybe 30 mins, 20 is we one-shot the boss. OS will be a bit more challenging though!The game really does begin at 80.
Best thing in WoW... find a good guild.
Some guilds are someone's personal ego-trip, some are focussed on PvP or PvE, some are hardcore raiding guilds and some are casual 'social' guilds.
Find one that suits your play hours and character.
A good guild will enhance your WoW experiance hugely - experienced players will explain things to you, many will point you in the direction of useful web-resources. You may even pick up one of those tips that sheds light on something and you realise you've been going about things all wrong!
Don't be afraid of changing guilds - even if your guild has a single GM (ours has a 'council' of 5 that makes the rules and generally keeps things running smoothly) a guild is only a loose collective. You don't have a contract with your guild, only with Blizzard.
I'd reccommend using the various reference sites out there, they'll improve our WoW experience - WoWWiki is great, wowhead very very useful. If you want to get the most out of your character then find one of the character specific blogs as they can provide huge insight into how to do whatever you do well!
Some guilds are someone's personal ego-trip, some are focussed on PvP or PvE, some are hardcore raiding guilds and some are casual 'social' guilds.
Find one that suits your play hours and character.
A good guild will enhance your WoW experiance hugely - experienced players will explain things to you, many will point you in the direction of useful web-resources. You may even pick up one of those tips that sheds light on something and you realise you've been going about things all wrong!
Don't be afraid of changing guilds - even if your guild has a single GM (ours has a 'council' of 5 that makes the rules and generally keeps things running smoothly) a guild is only a loose collective. You don't have a contract with your guild, only with Blizzard.
I'd reccommend using the various reference sites out there, they'll improve our WoW experience - WoWWiki is great, wowhead very very useful. If you want to get the most out of your character then find one of the character specific blogs as they can provide huge insight into how to do whatever you do well!
I'm going to have a read of the WoW Wiki I think, using a night elf hunter now and this seems to suit me better, can kill most things before they get near me, apart from the things that are a few levels above obviously. Really getting into it now, definitely going to get the full version I think.
Archavon is a good dungeon/instance. Which reminds me - most dungeons have their own abbreviation to save typing - VoA = Vault of Archavon. Other abbreviations you will hear are OP=overpowered, IMBA=Imbalanced. Both basically mean that a player has exceptionally good clothes and weapons for their level. Over the last 3 weeks I have had 2 pieces of Tier 7 armour from there (which drops from the 10-man version of the dungeon) the 25-man version drops Tier-7.5 stuff (only 4 pieces though to share with the entire group). Currently T7.5 is among the highest gear in the game. Unfortunately you can only run each 10/25 man dungeon once a week. If you get a good group then you >should< be able to do it first time. Because of the good gear drop, the 25-man version is popular with experienced players, which helps your team a lot!
A Night Elf (Nelf) Hunter is a very good first choice. Not that I am biased. Go with the Beast Mastery talent tree. This is mine: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/h...
It isn't perfect but it is a good enough guide. Go with the talents in the left hand tree first, then when it is filled, go on to the Marksmanship tree.
In a bit of a rush at the moment, but will add some stuff later...
A Night Elf (Nelf) Hunter is a very good first choice. Not that I am biased. Go with the Beast Mastery talent tree. This is mine: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/h...
It isn't perfect but it is a good enough guide. Go with the talents in the left hand tree first, then when it is filled, go on to the Marksmanship tree.
In a bit of a rush at the moment, but will add some stuff later...
Invaluable links:
www.thottbot.com
www.mapwow.com
You'll wonder how you ever did without.
Also, as someone earlier mentioned, two must have addons are Questhelper & Lootfilter.
www.thottbot.com
www.mapwow.com
You'll wonder how you ever did without.
Also, as someone earlier mentioned, two must have addons are Questhelper & Lootfilter.
New from one of the blogging community:
http://www.raider101.com/
Couldn't live without http://www.wowhead.com/ Prefer it to Thott and Alakhzam
http://www.raider101.com/
Couldn't live without http://www.wowhead.com/ Prefer it to Thott and Alakhzam
I have Thottbot in my Firefox search bar thingy. Very useful for looking stuff up quickly.
Armour and weapons will drop now and then from your kills. If it's name is green then it is good quality, blue is better but rare, and purple is very rare indeed and will have exceptional stats. There is no really foolproof "ladder" of what equipment is better than the next. A guideline is to look at a weapon's damage per second (DPS) and clothing Armour rating, but quite often you will find items have other attributes too. Different classes (Hunter, Warrior, Paladin etc) need different things from their clothing:
Hunters should look for clothing with Agility (Ag). At first sight this just seems like it would only be a defensive attribute (and so would be theoretically useless to a hunter as you should never get within melee range anyway) but through some convoluted method, it actually increases your damage done!
Paladins and Warriors should primarily look for gear with Stamina (Sta). This enables them to withstand attacks better.
Magic users (Warlocks, Mages etc) should look for Intelligence (Int). This allows your mana to regenerate more quickly.
If you see anyone selling free or cheap enchantments, take them up on it. They do make a difference, but they aren't worth spending much money on in the early stages. Every 5 levels or so, take a good look at your equipment and see which is the lowest performing. Most items will have a minimum level requirement. Also, every 5 levels you will get access (at the vendors) to a better set of arrows and bullets. It is well worth getting new (better) ammo as soon as reasonably possible. Which reminds me, when I was starting off it took me a stupid amount of time to realise I had to drag the auto-shot button onto my tool bar. When you get new attacks from training, drag those to the tool bar as well.
If you are (say) a Level 20 and have Min Level 12 gloves, then have a look at the Auction House to see if there is anything better that won't break the bank. The stuff at the AH is almost always cheaper (and much better) than vendor gear.
Armour and weapons will drop now and then from your kills. If it's name is green then it is good quality, blue is better but rare, and purple is very rare indeed and will have exceptional stats. There is no really foolproof "ladder" of what equipment is better than the next. A guideline is to look at a weapon's damage per second (DPS) and clothing Armour rating, but quite often you will find items have other attributes too. Different classes (Hunter, Warrior, Paladin etc) need different things from their clothing:
Hunters should look for clothing with Agility (Ag). At first sight this just seems like it would only be a defensive attribute (and so would be theoretically useless to a hunter as you should never get within melee range anyway) but through some convoluted method, it actually increases your damage done!
Paladins and Warriors should primarily look for gear with Stamina (Sta). This enables them to withstand attacks better.
Magic users (Warlocks, Mages etc) should look for Intelligence (Int). This allows your mana to regenerate more quickly.
If you see anyone selling free or cheap enchantments, take them up on it. They do make a difference, but they aren't worth spending much money on in the early stages. Every 5 levels or so, take a good look at your equipment and see which is the lowest performing. Most items will have a minimum level requirement. Also, every 5 levels you will get access (at the vendors) to a better set of arrows and bullets. It is well worth getting new (better) ammo as soon as reasonably possible. Which reminds me, when I was starting off it took me a stupid amount of time to realise I had to drag the auto-shot button onto my tool bar. When you get new attacks from training, drag those to the tool bar as well.
If you are (say) a Level 20 and have Min Level 12 gloves, then have a look at the Auction House to see if there is anything better that won't break the bank. The stuff at the AH is almost always cheaper (and much better) than vendor gear.
FunkyNige said:
Zad said:
Magic users (Warlocks, Mages etc) should look for Intelligence (Int). This allows your mana to regenerate more quickly.
Minor nitpick - Int gives you more mana so you don't run out as fast, it's Spirit that affects regenerate.Yes, spot the Holy Priest
Edited by Zad on Tuesday 13th January 19:14
Zad said:
FunkyNige said:
Zad said:
Magic users (Warlocks, Mages etc) should look for Intelligence (Int). This allows your mana to regenerate more quickly.
Minor nitpick - Int gives you more mana so you don't run out as fast, it's Spirit that affects regenerate.Yes, spot the Holy Priest
Edited by Zad on Tuesday 13th January 19:10
oh god i played that game too long....
shouldbworking said:
Zad said:
FunkyNige said:
Zad said:
Magic users (Warlocks, Mages etc) should look for Intelligence (Int). This allows your mana to regenerate more quickly.
Minor nitpick - Int gives you more mana so you don't run out as fast, it's Spirit that affects regenerate.Yes, spot the Holy Priest
Edited by Zad on Tuesday 13th January 19:10
oh god i played that game too long....
Playing my Prot war and Ret Pally mostly now though... Led a raid on VoA and Obsidian Sanctum last night and we had a great time. <15 to complete VoA and 3 wipes on Sartharion before finally turnign him into a dead dragon.
Great fun.
Warrior even got a nice DPS T7 chest which will go in the locker room until dual-specs are released!
IainT said:
Raided on my mage in Burning crusade and mana pool size is very very important. Int also gives spell crit and, for mages at least, boosts your MP5 regeneration
Playing my Prot war and Ret Pally mostly now though... Led a raid on VoA and Obsidian Sanctum last night and we had a great time. <15 to complete VoA and 3 wipes on Sartharion before finally turnign him into a dead dragon.
Great fun.
Warrior even got a nice DPS T7 chest which will go in the locker room until dual-specs are released!
I'm currently wasting my friday/saturday evenings leading 10men through naxxramas (in a peverse kind of way its a good management exercise i say..), plague and arachnid along with patches done... onto the more tricky parts (rezuvious hits very very hard we found when you lose your special tanks). Playing my Prot war and Ret Pally mostly now though... Led a raid on VoA and Obsidian Sanctum last night and we had a great time. <15 to complete VoA and 3 wipes on Sartharion before finally turnign him into a dead dragon.
Great fun.
Warrior even got a nice DPS T7 chest which will go in the locker room until dual-specs are released!
Awesome game, beats watching TV
I'm Lvl 80 horde huntard on Alonsus realm if anyone is interested.
Zad said:
Hunters should look for clothing with Agility (Ag). At first sight this just seems like it would only be a defensive attribute (and so would be theoretically useless to a hunter as you should never get within melee range anyway) but through some convoluted method, it actually increases your damage done!
For hunters, agility is worth 1 attack power per point and some small percentage critical strike increase as well as armour increase (which like you say, should be useless).. 
wowinterface.com is another good site for addons. Lightheaded and doublewide are 2 definitely worth getting when starting out as they'll work together to make questing more effective. Lightheaded includes TomTom which'll give you waypoint arrows so that you don't spend hours trying to find a particular NPC or quest location.
Auctioneer is useful for determining sensible pricing for items to sell at auction houses which can bring in some useful gold.
Also try and start doing instances as soon as you can; best way to pick up sensible upgrades without having to pay traders or auctionhouse prices...
Lowly lvl 35 mage on Bronze Dragonflight...
The game seems to have some kind of time bending effect 5 minutes playing seems to actually be around 3 hours :-)
Auctioneer is useful for determining sensible pricing for items to sell at auction houses which can bring in some useful gold.
Also try and start doing instances as soon as you can; best way to pick up sensible upgrades without having to pay traders or auctionhouse prices...
Lowly lvl 35 mage on Bronze Dragonflight...
The game seems to have some kind of time bending effect 5 minutes playing seems to actually be around 3 hours :-)
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