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On my EU account I had a 55% win rate after 16,573 games.
Kills/Game average = 1.29
Damage dealt /received = 1.80
Kill/Death ratio of 2.35 (21,332 kills / 9,071 deaths)
http://worldoftanks.eu/community/accounts/50456856...
My US noob tier one account has a win rate of 57% so far, after 84 games.
Kills/Game average = 2.04
Damage dealt /received = 3.45
Kill/Death ratio of 4.62 (171 kills / 37 deaths)
56% survival rate.
http://worldoftanks.com/community/accounts/1007711...
That's with no crew skills and no extra hardware (yet
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Kills/Game average = 1.29
Damage dealt /received = 1.80
Kill/Death ratio of 2.35 (21,332 kills / 9,071 deaths)
http://worldoftanks.eu/community/accounts/50456856...
My US noob tier one account has a win rate of 57% so far, after 84 games.
Kills/Game average = 2.04
Damage dealt /received = 3.45
Kill/Death ratio of 4.62 (171 kills / 37 deaths)
56% survival rate.
http://worldoftanks.com/community/accounts/1007711...
That's with no crew skills and no extra hardware (yet
).Interesting as always presumed the % to be higher of the other players until I put this xvm, noticed most times there are only a couple in every team with over 50% in a tank with plenty battles behind it.
My highest is 59% with 1011 battles in the pz38t, I put that down to the fact that most 3 tier players do not yet have the knowhow however I do well even when opposed with 5 tier when I load premium and with the pz's rapid rate of fire.
The tank I fear when in 3 tier is the pz1c as a good player can create mayhem in one of those.
My highest is 59% with 1011 battles in the pz38t, I put that down to the fact that most 3 tier players do not yet have the knowhow however I do well even when opposed with 5 tier when I load premium and with the pz's rapid rate of fire.
The tank I fear when in 3 tier is the pz1c as a good player can create mayhem in one of those.
TX1 said:
Interesting as always presumed the % to be higher of the other players until I put this xvm, noticed most times there are only a couple in every team with over 50% in a tank with plenty battles behind it.
My highest is 59% with 1011 battles in the pz38t, I put that down to the fact that most 3 tier players do not yet have the knowhow however I do well even when opposed with 5 tier when I load premium and with the pz's rapid rate of fire.
The tank I fear when in 3 tier is the pz1c as a good player can create mayhem in one of those.
I've never played the Pz1C, but I know that some people run them as a pimp tank with 100% premium shells. Sure it costs them a bloody fortune in ammo, but they don't play it much and subsidise it with other tanks.My highest is 59% with 1011 battles in the pz38t, I put that down to the fact that most 3 tier players do not yet have the knowhow however I do well even when opposed with 5 tier when I load premium and with the pz's rapid rate of fire.
The tank I fear when in 3 tier is the pz1c as a good player can create mayhem in one of those.
I've been meaning to give one a try as they look a lot of fun.
I think the most deadly tank at tier 3, that I've played at least, is the French premium TD, the FCM 36 Pak 40. I've squished plenty of those Pz1C f
kers with it. They find it hard to penetrate the front armour, especially from range.The FCM makes a snail look fast, but has tier 9 view range (400m unaided) and a very good gun. In 438 games with mine it has a 64% win rate and nailed 992 enemies with 33 Top Guns along the way. I had a 10 kill game with it once, but sadly you don't get a Pool's Medal at tier 3.
Anyone thinking of trying the French TD line should definitely get one.
I tend to just worry about doing as much damage as possible, everything else tends to flow from that. Oh and also be on the look out for base decap points, they boost your efficiency, WN7/8 and, frequently, win rate by lots - always one eye on the map and be ready to head back.
Managed to get 3 draws in 14 games tonight though, thats pretty unusual - like buses I guess. Did get ace tanker in Type 58 though, finally, so chuffed with that.
Mastodon the Grille is actually pretty neat, get it set up like you suggested and its fun. Actually better than the Hummel I found, so no rush to that one
Managed to get 3 draws in 14 games tonight though, thats pretty unusual - like buses I guess. Did get ace tanker in Type 58 though, finally, so chuffed with that.
Mastodon the Grille is actually pretty neat, get it set up like you suggested and its fun. Actually better than the Hummel I found, so no rush to that one
Tier 5 TD update:
Love the Pz.Sfl.IVc; it's a keeper - using my very experienced JTiger crew; given it all the camos and used some free XP to get the top gun, which is a penetration monster - I wouldn't have bothered if I hadn't decided to keep it already. The down side is, it's an open-topped, slab-sided, thinly armoured, low HP death trap in a straight fight, so sniping is the order of the day. It's pretty quick tho, so you can do a lot of good from different places in the same game. Equipment is camo net, binocs and rammer. I will still be progressing to tier 6 and onwards as I want a go at those autoloaders (and the Rhim-B looks like steathly fun, too) - I'll need to start a new crew though.
A good game looks like this:
The AT2 is the opposite.
Slow and even more gun sensitive than the Alecto. You either get a fast firing gun that just pings off everything stronger than a haystack (and the HE does zip as well; I haven't tried premium rounds as I never use them) or the slow slow slow howitzer which works very very well... when someone sits still in front of you long enough for the round to get there. And if you pick the wrong route/side/camping spot, tough, the game will either be won or lost before you can get anywhere useful. It has it's moments, this tank... but many frustrating games, too.
I will carry on up the tiers, but I don't think I'll miss this one too much. I haven't really got an example of a good overall result in this tank - a good game is one where you get to take part a bit and maybe knock 3 or 400hp off in one shot from someone who just wasn't expecting to die quick so quickly
I might re-buy the Alecto...
Love the Pz.Sfl.IVc; it's a keeper - using my very experienced JTiger crew; given it all the camos and used some free XP to get the top gun, which is a penetration monster - I wouldn't have bothered if I hadn't decided to keep it already. The down side is, it's an open-topped, slab-sided, thinly armoured, low HP death trap in a straight fight, so sniping is the order of the day. It's pretty quick tho, so you can do a lot of good from different places in the same game. Equipment is camo net, binocs and rammer. I will still be progressing to tier 6 and onwards as I want a go at those autoloaders (and the Rhim-B looks like steathly fun, too) - I'll need to start a new crew though.
A good game looks like this:
The AT2 is the opposite.
Slow and even more gun sensitive than the Alecto. You either get a fast firing gun that just pings off everything stronger than a haystack (and the HE does zip as well; I haven't tried premium rounds as I never use them) or the slow slow slow howitzer which works very very well... when someone sits still in front of you long enough for the round to get there. And if you pick the wrong route/side/camping spot, tough, the game will either be won or lost before you can get anywhere useful. It has it's moments, this tank... but many frustrating games, too.
I will carry on up the tiers, but I don't think I'll miss this one too much. I haven't really got an example of a good overall result in this tank - a good game is one where you get to take part a bit and maybe knock 3 or 400hp off in one shot from someone who just wasn't expecting to die quick so quickly
I might re-buy the Alecto...
Nice game with the Death Toaster. I never got Ace Tanker with that thing before moving on to the Nashorn.
I didn't like the Nashorn much, but the tier 7 Syphilis Panzer is truly dreadful. Free-XP past it if you can.
The tier 8 Rhm Borsig is a beast, but the stock gun is getting a reload speed nerf in the next patch. The tier 9 and 10 are also getting nerfed too.
I loved the Alecto with the derp gun. It's the only tank I've ever got Ace Tanker with in the very first game. The top gun on it is really really bad I think, so I went back to the derp.
I didn't like the Nashorn much, but the tier 7 Syphilis Panzer is truly dreadful. Free-XP past it if you can.
The tier 8 Rhm Borsig is a beast, but the stock gun is getting a reload speed nerf in the next patch. The tier 9 and 10 are also getting nerfed too.
I loved the Alecto with the derp gun. It's the only tank I've ever got Ace Tanker with in the very first game. The top gun on it is really really bad I think, so I went back to the derp.
Hadn't realised the Borsig nerf was to reload time, that seems to be missing the point a bit. The problem with them is the fact that they come equipped with romulan cloaking devices - lowering the DPM a bit just means it takes them marginally longer to kill you, you still won't be able to see the bleeders until you crash into them.
There are some much bigger camo / spotting changes in the pipeline though, so perhaps we will have to wait for those before the borsig really becomes balanced.
As a side note as tier 4 TD's go the US T40 is incredible - I played one for a while shortly after playing the Alecto and its like day and night the difference. Top gun on the T40 is a tier 6 76mm, and it has a very good view range if iirc. Very very strong tank, and one of the rare ones that work just as well when T-2 in the MM as they do when as top tier. It's a glass cannon, of course, but by god what a cannon.
There are some much bigger camo / spotting changes in the pipeline though, so perhaps we will have to wait for those before the borsig really becomes balanced.
As a side note as tier 4 TD's go the US T40 is incredible - I played one for a while shortly after playing the Alecto and its like day and night the difference. Top gun on the T40 is a tier 6 76mm, and it has a very good view range if iirc. Very very strong tank, and one of the rare ones that work just as well when T-2 in the MM as they do when as top tier. It's a glass cannon, of course, but by god what a cannon.
bstb3 said:
As a side note as tier 4 TD's go the US T40 is incredible - I played one for a while shortly after playing the Alecto and its like day and night the difference. Top gun on the T40 is a tier 6 76mm, and it has a very good view range if iirc. Very very strong tank, and one of the rare ones that work just as well when T-2 in the MM as they do when as top tier. It's a glass cannon, of course, but by god what a cannon.
I've got a 78% win rate with my T-40 over about 60 battles with it. That extra movement you have on the turret with it makes all the difference. Despite the good games with it though I always seem to prefer playing my SU-85B instead but I don't do as well with that, currently 59% over 200 battles.I liked the T40 as well. It's got a nice gun as is pretty mobile.
All TDs got a camo nerf in the 9.1 patch. They lose as much camo as a regular tank when they fire now I believe.
They are working an a complete overhaul of the spotting system at the moment. For example: Tanks will no longer disappear in the middle of an open field unless they get behind some cover. We won't see this for a while though.
It's only the stock 128mm gun on the Rhm Borsig that's getting nerfed (10.9s to 11.5s). The stubby 150mm gun remains the same. I unlocked that one, but never used it. I tried it on the test server and didn't like it.
Several of the US TD are really good. The Hellcat & T49 obviously, but the other tier 4, the M8A1 is a lot of fun. The tier 5 Wolverine is also a real gem, I was surprised to find. I had a 67% win rate after 64 games, with 5 Top Guns with that thing.
I want to try the low tier Soviet TD as I skipped straight to the (superb) SU-85 via the T-34 originally.
All TDs got a camo nerf in the 9.1 patch. They lose as much camo as a regular tank when they fire now I believe.
They are working an a complete overhaul of the spotting system at the moment. For example: Tanks will no longer disappear in the middle of an open field unless they get behind some cover. We won't see this for a while though.
It's only the stock 128mm gun on the Rhm Borsig that's getting nerfed (10.9s to 11.5s). The stubby 150mm gun remains the same. I unlocked that one, but never used it. I tried it on the test server and didn't like it.
Several of the US TD are really good. The Hellcat & T49 obviously, but the other tier 4, the M8A1 is a lot of fun. The tier 5 Wolverine is also a real gem, I was surprised to find. I had a 67% win rate after 64 games, with 5 Top Guns with that thing.
I want to try the low tier Soviet TD as I skipped straight to the (superb) SU-85 via the T-34 originally.
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Mastodon the Grille is actually pretty neat, get it set up like you suggested and its fun. Actually better than the Hummel I found, so no rush to that one
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I'm actually enjoying the Grille now, after a few matches. I was playing the other night, on the stock grind, still with the T3 gun (which is offensively pathetic on a T5 tank - though the Grille may be a T4 on the PC, or at least it was at one point), but I managed to hold back a brigade of KV-1s and other tanks through tracking and harrying them in the gulley on Mountain Pass, allowing my team to snipe to hapless goons. My best kill so far was wearing down a T7 IS with about 6 or 7 shots, and some help from a team mate, before getting the killing blow. Since putting the T5 150mm gun on, it doesn't feel quite so heroic taking out higher tier tanks, but it's a lot easier to influence a game now.
New update to the 360 game tonight as they've just done an update and added in the second family of German TDs, the one with the Nashorn in, and the American autoloader line, along with 2 new maps.
Mastodon the Grille is actually pretty neat, get it set up like you suggested and its fun. Actually better than the Hummel I found, so no rush to that one
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I'm actually enjoying the Grille now, after a few matches. I was playing the other night, on the stock grind, still with the T3 gun (which is offensively pathetic on a T5 tank - though the Grille may be a T4 on the PC, or at least it was at one point), but I managed to hold back a brigade of KV-1s and other tanks through tracking and harrying them in the gulley on Mountain Pass, allowing my team to snipe to hapless goons. My best kill so far was wearing down a T7 IS with about 6 or 7 shots, and some help from a team mate, before getting the killing blow. Since putting the T5 150mm gun on, it doesn't feel quite so heroic taking out higher tier tanks, but it's a lot easier to influence a game now.
New update to the 360 game tonight as they've just done an update and added in the second family of German TDs, the one with the Nashorn in, and the American autoloader line, along with 2 new maps.
defblade said:
I very nearly could free-xp it; but why is it bad?
According to the WOTwiki, it's big, extremely slow, terrible turn speed, open-topped and ony carries 15 shells. On the plus side, it has incredible alpha and pen for it's tier, good accuracy and, for a German, amazing gun depression. The armour is crap.This is one of the tanks that was added to the German line on the 360 today, so I'll be playing it at some point.
defblade said:
I very nearly could free-xp it; but why is it bad?
Very slow, next to no armour. Top gun is very gun pen and damage, but ridiculously low amount of ammo. If anyone halfway competent gets close to you you are boned if you cant kill it before it gets out of line of your gun. Oh and the gun elevation is dreadful, so don't expect to shoot up much (although depression is very good).If you can play it without getting spotted then its fine, but in randoms that needs a team to keep the baddies away from you, its certainly not quick enough to keep relocating.
Had a few good games in mine, but the one time it needed to carry it ran out of ammo with 2 tanks left, which would otherwise have been easy kills ( and a pools kolobanov,to boot). Never forgave it after that
On the plus side its not an amx m4 45, and it makes the borsig seem even better.
Yeah, it's slow to move, which I can live with, but it is glacially slow to turn, even with clutch braking on your driver. This makes it tactically inflexible & hard to defend yourself. Probably as part of a 3-man platoon it would be OK, but on it's own it's extremely difficult to carry a game with it. I kept getting idiot teams with mine too, which didn't help my disposition towards it.
I managed to get a Top Gun with it once (amazingly), but couldn't chase down the last enemy arty to win the game before the clock ran out. That's the only notable game I can remember with it.
Do yourself a favour and free XP the second gun if not the whole vehicle. With that you can wreck stuff at least.
They really need to buff this TD. An increase to the turning speed would make a big difference.
I managed to get a Top Gun with it once (amazingly), but couldn't chase down the last enemy arty to win the game before the clock ran out. That's the only notable game I can remember with it.
Do yourself a favour and free XP the second gun if not the whole vehicle. With that you can wreck stuff at least.
They really need to buff this TD. An increase to the turning speed would make a big difference.
jimmyjimjim said:
With the second gun, it's bearable.
Barely mobile glass cannon.
It's worth fee Xp'ing the 2nd gun, but unlike most here, I didn't find the full grind too unbearable; I've played worse.
Save your free xp for something that really needs it.
The A-44, maybe.
The toxic combination of very slow speed, slow traverse and very poor gun traverse were the deal breakers for me with the Pz Sfl V. To get effective shots you had to move the entire tank too much breaking its camo. It was then too slow to evade the return fire. Even with good gun depression the poor armour left it exposed and vulnerable. On top of this it was unable to flex to where it was needed and this combination was deal breaking for me.Barely mobile glass cannon.
It's worth fee Xp'ing the 2nd gun, but unlike most here, I didn't find the full grind too unbearable; I've played worse.
Save your free xp for something that really needs it.
The A-44, maybe.
Regarding the A-44 I am starting to think you may be right about it too. I just can't warm to this tank despite a 70% win rate over the first 23 games. The utter lack of gun depression is...well....depressing. It just isnt flexible enough for a medium tank. It does have very good camo so maybe I need to treat it as a fairly modile tank destroyer rather than a medium tank.
However we still come back to that total lack of gun depression which could well be the deal breaker for me yet again.
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