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The matchmaking is the single worst thing about WoT. If it's not high tier idiots that have failed their way there with 40% win rates, it's being constantly bottom tier.
3rd game ever with the tier 2 Panzer II - a heavily tier 3 game. Great, so you're supposed to play with a tank that's not fully researched against superior tanks.
They really need to keep the first 3 tiers at least apart.
3rd game ever with the tier 2 Panzer II - a heavily tier 3 game. Great, so you're supposed to play with a tank that's not fully researched against superior tanks.
They really need to keep the first 3 tiers at least apart.
Edited by Beati Dogu on Monday 21st July 18:36
Just had such a good game in the Hummel on Prokhorovka, 6 kills, Top Gun medal. Every time a spot came up, I either one-shotted it, or tracked and damaged it with splash. I had a Nashorn and an IS up front, doing the spotting and killing off every stricken tank who was left with a sliver of health after taking a shot from the 950 alpha 150mm howitzer.
That said, I have noticed that the tier 6 150mm gun seems to give long, elliptical target areas once dialled in, probably due to it's immense range, giving the shells flatter trajectory over shorter ranges. I have learned to exploit this, putting the target to the front of the target area, effectively using it as a block for the shell, forcing the shell to pass through it, gambling on it landing on the target.
That said, I have noticed that the tier 6 150mm gun seems to give long, elliptical target areas once dialled in, probably due to it's immense range, giving the shells flatter trajectory over shorter ranges. I have learned to exploit this, putting the target to the front of the target area, effectively using it as a block for the shell, forcing the shell to pass through it, gambling on it landing on the target.
Beati Dogu said:
The matchmaking is the single worst thing about WoT. If it's not high tier idiots that have failed their way there with 40% win rates, it's being constantly bottom tier.
3rd game ever with the tier 2 Panzer II - a heavily tier 3 game. Great, so you're supposed to play with a tank that's not fully researched against superior tanks.
They really need to keep the first 3 tiers at least apart.
Pz 2 can hold its own in a tier 3 game, just get relatively close to them and unlease the troll cannon. Even better if you can get their sides or rear. Forget trying to pick them off at any distance though as it has zero pen at range. Don't bother trying to shoot a T18 from the front with it as you'll just bounce.3rd game ever with the tier 2 Panzer II - a heavily tier 3 game. Great, so you're supposed to play with a tank that's not fully researched against superior tanks.
They really need to keep the first 3 tiers at least apart.
Edited by Beati Dogu on Monday 21st July 18:36
I think there a lot of merit to keeping the first 2 tiers seperate from the rest of the matchmaking. These are tiers where people are supposed to learn the game, get enthused by it. Getting in a tier 3 game in a stock tier 2 is bad enough for someone who already knows what the game is about, but as a newbie? If it had happened a lot to me I doubt I would still be playing. Full matchmaking of +2 tier should probably start at tier 4, perhaps the tier 3's should be limited to seeing tier 4 max.
Came soooo close to just deleting the damn game on Sunday, haven't touched it since and have precious little faith that if I do play tonight / tomorrow that I will last very long. I really want to grind up the T25AT, but the level of donkeyness in players was just so high, really really bad. No map awareness, inability to follow even simple, basic tactics, botting, drowning you name it. I can't really blame MM as each side seemed to have them, but gods its hard work to remain calm.
2 examples.
Abbey map - we spawn in the west and push down the southern road, lemming style, so the enemy have a free run up the water side. The 2 tanks that went that way initially and look like defending it die super quickly, parked out in the open judging by where they died ("hey lets push into an abviously stronger enemy force..."). We win our side, but obviously need to go back to defend. Repeated pinging of the map, using the "defend the base" command so no issues of language problems, only one other tank responds - the rest of the lemmings push on. So we go back to defend, hold the enemy from capping for ages slowly knocking them out one by one (got 188 defender points lol), but our attacking lemmings die indivudually to an enemy T95 solely defending their base. Eventually we can't defend any longer and get overrun. All we had to do was defend en mass and it was an easy win.
The hilly map with the big broken viaduct in the middle. Spawn at the bridge end of the map in Object 140, with T-62a and AMX 13 90 also going to the usual mediums spot up by the bridge. AMX 13 90 very quickly states he is going to spot the middle, be ready to shoot targets that he lights up. He does a great job, getting into cover safely and spotting up targets left right and centre. So T-62a and I open up, and the combined DPM of an Obj-140 and T-62a is pretty fearsome. Well it should be, except Mr T-62a can't hit a barn door, but still we are making some good dents in the enemy mediums that were pushing the hill, who decide to retreat after losing 50% or so health. So far so good. Then, and I still can't figure it out, Mr T62A decides he is bored of living and drives out into the open, despite us knowing that there was a batchat, leopard 1, Obj-140 and T-62a somewhere in the bushes on the other side. I literally only had time to type a "wtf" and tell him to retreat before 15 seconds later hes a corpse, and we are now vulnerable. Enemy meds push well, knowing we can't hurt them enough before they spot us, we eventually get overrun and lose with our remaining tanks on the other side getting flanked.
After several face / keyboard interface moments like that enough was enough. Sometimes no matter how well you and some other teammates play, it feels like there are more donuts on your team actively trying to sabotage you.
Came soooo close to just deleting the damn game on Sunday, haven't touched it since and have precious little faith that if I do play tonight / tomorrow that I will last very long. I really want to grind up the T25AT, but the level of donkeyness in players was just so high, really really bad. No map awareness, inability to follow even simple, basic tactics, botting, drowning you name it. I can't really blame MM as each side seemed to have them, but gods its hard work to remain calm.
2 examples.
Abbey map - we spawn in the west and push down the southern road, lemming style, so the enemy have a free run up the water side. The 2 tanks that went that way initially and look like defending it die super quickly, parked out in the open judging by where they died ("hey lets push into an abviously stronger enemy force..."). We win our side, but obviously need to go back to defend. Repeated pinging of the map, using the "defend the base" command so no issues of language problems, only one other tank responds - the rest of the lemmings push on. So we go back to defend, hold the enemy from capping for ages slowly knocking them out one by one (got 188 defender points lol), but our attacking lemmings die indivudually to an enemy T95 solely defending their base. Eventually we can't defend any longer and get overrun. All we had to do was defend en mass and it was an easy win.
The hilly map with the big broken viaduct in the middle. Spawn at the bridge end of the map in Object 140, with T-62a and AMX 13 90 also going to the usual mediums spot up by the bridge. AMX 13 90 very quickly states he is going to spot the middle, be ready to shoot targets that he lights up. He does a great job, getting into cover safely and spotting up targets left right and centre. So T-62a and I open up, and the combined DPM of an Obj-140 and T-62a is pretty fearsome. Well it should be, except Mr T-62a can't hit a barn door, but still we are making some good dents in the enemy mediums that were pushing the hill, who decide to retreat after losing 50% or so health. So far so good. Then, and I still can't figure it out, Mr T62A decides he is bored of living and drives out into the open, despite us knowing that there was a batchat, leopard 1, Obj-140 and T-62a somewhere in the bushes on the other side. I literally only had time to type a "wtf" and tell him to retreat before 15 seconds later hes a corpse, and we are now vulnerable. Enemy meds push well, knowing we can't hurt them enough before they spot us, we eventually get overrun and lose with our remaining tanks on the other side getting flanked.
After several face / keyboard interface moments like that enough was enough. Sometimes no matter how well you and some other teammates play, it feels like there are more donuts on your team actively trying to sabotage you.
When I started playing this game around 14 months ago I do not think I used to have so many battles as am having now in a 3 tier vs 5 tier.
Seems like every 1 of 3 battles is like that now.
At tier 5 it gets better for me regarding the above problem, I put this down to probably using top tanks of the tier (kv1 and kv1s) so that is probably why I can get away with it and still do damage.
Not played much these last couple of weeks as Vmedia had a problem round my area so kept dropping the line in the middle of a batlle, since then seem to have gone a bit off the game and am playing more out of habit then enjoyment.
Have to say xvm is a real eyeopener as I never suspected before I installed it how low % most players are.
Seems like every 1 of 3 battles is like that now.
At tier 5 it gets better for me regarding the above problem, I put this down to probably using top tanks of the tier (kv1 and kv1s) so that is probably why I can get away with it and still do damage.
Not played much these last couple of weeks as Vmedia had a problem round my area so kept dropping the line in the middle of a batlle, since then seem to have gone a bit off the game and am playing more out of habit then enjoyment.
Have to say xvm is a real eyeopener as I never suspected before I installed it how low % most players are.
Be patient with the T25AT grind it's worth it. As I said mines fully upgraded now and I can happily carry my team if they suck providing there aren't more than 1 or 2 tier IX tanks. Last 3 games alone I've had 7-8 kills and more than double sometimes triple the XP the rest of my team mates are getting.
Z06George said:
Be patient with the T25AT grind it's worth it. As I said mines fully upgraded now and I can happily carry my team if they suck providing there aren't more than 1 or 2 tier IX tanks. Last 3 games alone I've had 7-8 kills and more than double sometimes triple the XP the rest of my team mates are getting.
I love my T25AT. 2,246 battles. Excellent for dealing out masses of damage.
Let me guess: He went back to the cap, but was too slow to make it?
t tier 7 is the Syphilis Panzer.
jimmyjimjim said:
Conversely I hated the T25/2; undergunned for the tier.
I was expecting to not like it after the Hellcat, but it has decent mobility and the turret makes it more flexible. The gun is fine. I nailed 150 tanks in 86 games with mine, which is the highest kill rate of all the tier 7 tank destroyers I've played. The only one I haven't tried is the British one. The only utterly st tier 7 is the Syphilis Panzer.My guess too.
Dredging through my stats, the T25/2 was my third worst T7 TD. Surprisingly the Pz Sfl isn't bottom, though it is second. Bottom, unfairly, as it's the one T7 TD I've not yet elited, is the SU-100M1, which I really dislike right now - no depression, so I find it difficult to play.
Dredging through my stats, the T25/2 was my third worst T7 TD. Surprisingly the Pz Sfl isn't bottom, though it is second. Bottom, unfairly, as it's the one T7 TD I've not yet elited, is the SU-100M1, which I really dislike right now - no depression, so I find it difficult to play.
jimmyjimjim said:
My guess too.
Dredging through my stats, the T25/2 was my third worst T7 TD. Surprisingly the Pz Sfl isn't bottom, though it is second. Bottom, unfairly, as it's the one T7 TD I've not yet elited, is the SU-100M1, which I really dislike right now - no depression, so I find it difficult to play.
su100m1 is getting quite a buff in the next patch, but to dpm not depression. might help a bitDredging through my stats, the T25/2 was my third worst T7 TD. Surprisingly the Pz Sfl isn't bottom, though it is second. Bottom, unfairly, as it's the one T7 TD I've not yet elited, is the SU-100M1, which I really dislike right now - no depression, so I find it difficult to play.
Another evening in the Hummel, another 6 kills in one game with the Hummel, picking up a Reaper and Top Gun along the way. I <3 this tank. When you get one or two of the AT line TDs, or an AT backed up by a heavy, they can create a spotting team that works wonders for me. If the AT(s) can sit and keep a target in view, using it's insanely difficult to target front armour, and a heavy can shoot from cover to harry the target into hiding as best they can, I often find these teams can push enemies into hiding spots that make them easy meat for an overhead artillery round.
I had a match on Erlenberg where a squad of those well armoured British TDs pinned some enemy heavies in the courtyard next to the castle, the AT series tanks sitting in the open, bouncing rounds, the enemy playing peek a boom. I was able to sit on the other side of the map, raining shells into the courtyard, picking up a kill, breaking loads of modules and doing all kinds of damage to the assorted tier 8 enemies who had scurried in there to hide from the fire of the TDs.
I had a match on Erlenberg where a squad of those well armoured British TDs pinned some enemy heavies in the courtyard next to the castle, the AT series tanks sitting in the open, bouncing rounds, the enemy playing peek a boom. I was able to sit on the other side of the map, raining shells into the courtyard, picking up a kill, breaking loads of modules and doing all kinds of damage to the assorted tier 8 enemies who had scurried in there to hide from the fire of the TDs.
I have a problem with the Text Chat (in WoT obviously).
It does not recognise that I'm in Platoon. If I have Chat turned OFFthen I can't communicate with my Platoon Mate(s). If I turn it ON I can only broadcast my message to the entire team (or both team if I wish) but have no Platoon option.
Anyone any ideas what's going on or can point me to a fix?
It does not recognise that I'm in Platoon. If I have Chat turned OFFthen I can't communicate with my Platoon Mate(s). If I turn it ON I can only broadcast my message to the entire team (or both team if I wish) but have no Platoon option.
Anyone any ideas what's going on or can point me to a fix?
Timbo_Mint said:
I have a problem with the Text Chat (in WoT obviously).
It does not recognise that I'm in Platoon. If I have Chat turned OFFthen I can't communicate with my Platoon Mate(s). If I turn it ON I can only broadcast my message to the entire team (or both team if I wish) but have no Platoon option.
Anyone any ideas what's going on or can point me to a fix?
That's not a problem as such, just how it's always been. Platooning works best if you're in voice contact with your buddies - Teamtalk or Mumble, then headphones with mic. Saves having to stop and type when it's all kicking off, too.It does not recognise that I'm in Platoon. If I have Chat turned OFFthen I can't communicate with my Platoon Mate(s). If I turn it ON I can only broadcast my message to the entire team (or both team if I wish) but have no Platoon option.
Anyone any ideas what's going on or can point me to a fix?
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