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jimmyjimjim

7,345 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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TEKNOPUG said:
With the skills training, am I better to train one crew at a time? Seems to be taking longer than it took to train them to 100%. I'm around 64% for all crew (5 in total) and it's taking 800+ exp to increase 1%. I presume because the exp is spread across all 5?

If I drop the skills for 4 of the crew, will they be at 64% when I start them again or will they drop to zero?

Would it be better to train the Commander as Mentor first, so that he can speed up the rest of the crew?

scratchchin
Each subsequent skill takes longer than the one prior. My E8 crew is at ~361% and each requires about 2,000xp for the next %age point (mid way through it). The next %age point is somewhere between 3-4k XP, or more.
My T25 crew is at 298%, with something like 13,000XP to get to 299%. Then maybe another 16,000 to get to 300%.

After 300%, the first part of the next skill starts off easy to obtain, then gets harder again - after crawling over the last few % to 300 in the E8, I got to 350% quickly, now I'm crawling again. The scale is not quite logarythmic, but similar. Just keep at it...

If you drop skills to retrain them in something else, they should still be at 64% when you choose the skill you want to go with - but I've not tried this. Caveat emptor and all that.

Mentor might help, as will turning on accelerated crew training.




TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Do the skills make that much difference? I feel like I may as well just ditch the tank and move up another couple of tiers if it is going to take a 1000+ games to see any improvement.

jimmyjimjim

7,345 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Keep the crew and transfer them into the new tank!

A lot of skills make a big difference, repairs for example; getting tracked and repairing them in a few seconds as opposed to sitting around waiting for arty to reload and finish you off.

Camo - ever wondered why you don't see that enemy arty until you drive right in front of him and he finishes you off?

If you're grinding up the tiers, then it starts to be worthwhile keeping the crew from T5 onwards, from the %age you drop on retraining them for each tank, unless you use gold to get them to 100% immediately. If you do use gold, then keep the crew and just keep on training them...

Edited by jimmyjimjim on Thursday 18th October 13:53

TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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jimmyjimjim said:
Keep the crew and transfer them into the new tank!

A lot of skills make a big difference, repairs for example; getting tracked and repairing them in a few seconds as opposed to sitting around waiting for arty to reload and finish you off.

Camo - ever wondered why you don't see that enemy arty until you drive right in front of him and he finishes you off?

If you're grinding up the tiers, then it starts to be worthwhile keeping the crew from T5 onwards, from the %age you drop on retraining them for each tank, unless you use gold to get them to 100% immediately. If you do use gold, then keep the crew and just keep on training them...

Edited by jimmyjimjim on Thursday 18th October 13:53
Is it worth training one crew through to completion first, before starting on another?

RizzoTheRat

25,192 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Depends if you want to keep the vehicle or not. I'm training my A20 crew to 100% so I can transfer them to the ELC or T50-2 when I get one, but won't be selling the T50 any time soon so will still need to train anothe rlight crew. Up to tier 3 or 4 I found I could elite the vehicle before I'd got far training the crew, so I may as well start with a fresh crew on the next level up. However on my SU5, whcih I fon't intend to keep, I'd hit 97% training before I elited it so I may as well use the extra training bonus to speed the crew to 100% before I move them to a new vehicle.

TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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That doesn't really answer my question. I guess it's personal choice.

I'm keeping my SU-26 as the turret makes it invaluable. I started training all 5 of the crews' skills at once. So although they'll all complete around the same time, it's going to take quite a while. My M3 Lee is almost at 100%, so I may try and train one crew at a time with the hope that each new skill acquired, will increase the average game exp and thus speed up the training of the next crew-man.

RizzoTheRat

25,192 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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TEKNOPUG said:
I'm keeping my SU-26 as the turret makes it invaluable.
Same here, the SU5 is crap in comparison, I've now managed to elite it but still nto got quite enough cash for the next one.

As far as I'm aware a certain amount (5% of each game I think) of XP is allocated to training, and split between the crew members, so smaller crews will train faster, but if you don't have a skill training it goes in the bank until you do. I;ve had crew members hit 100% without me noticing and when I finally got round to setting them a skill it immediatly went to 10%.

jimmyjimjim

7,345 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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TEKNOPUG said:
That doesn't really answer my question. I guess it's personal choice.

I'm keeping my SU-26 as the turret makes it invaluable. I started training all 5 of the crews' skills at once. So although they'll all complete around the same time, it's going to take quite a while. My M3 Lee is almost at 100%, so I may try and train one crew at a time with the hope that each new skill acquired, will increase the average game exp and thus speed up the training of the next crew-man.
I don't think there's an option to only train one crew member at a time, unless you plan to switch out the other four, and use that tank to continue to train crews?

TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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RizzoTheRat said:
Same here, the SU5 is crap in comparison, I've now managed to elite it but still nto got quite enough cash for the next one.

As far as I'm aware a certain amount (5% of each game I think) of XP is allocated to training, and split between the crew members, so smaller crews will train faster, but if you don't have a skill training it goes in the bank until you do. I;ve had crew members hit 100% without me noticing and when I finally got round to setting them a skill it immediatly went to 10%.
I think my Su-26 crew started skills on 25%. Got to 50% really quickly but now it's a real grind.

As I say, I think that with my M3 Lee crew, I'll just train the Commander as "Mentor" first and see whether that helps the next Crewman train quicker. I'm still grinding to research the M7 so it'll be awhile before the tank is elite.

TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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jimmyjimjim said:
I don't think there's an option to only train one crew member at a time, unless you plan to switch out the other four, and use that tank to continue to train crews?
You don't have to select a skill to train once they get to 100% though? Or are you suggesting that even if you just select one crew to train a skill, they'll still only get a proportion of the exp. available? I was thinking that if only one crew is selected to train a skill, then they'll get all of the exp available? Other posts would seem to suggest otherwise though.

jimmyjimjim

7,345 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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No, as Rizzo said above, if you don't select a skill, they'll continue to accrue exp. until you choose which skill to allocate it to - I often don't notice that a crew has made it to 100%, and find they've already done 5,6,7% of the next skill once I choose it.

RizzoTheRat

25,192 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Looks like they stillg et a proportion

http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Crew

"If you do not chose a skill immediately after it becomes available, that crew member will nevertheless continue to gather experience and will apply stored experience to the proper skill once a skill is chosen."

TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Bugger irked

The M3 is going to take forever with 6 crew! I'll wait until the M7 is researched and then try the T1.

Do the skills stay with the crew regardless of what type of tank they are in?

jimmyjimjim

7,345 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Yes, they stay the same; the only exception being the primary tank skill - you obviously have to retrain them for the tank you move them to.

The M3 doesn't take that long. It's the sole redeeming feature of the tank.


sleepezy

1,808 posts

235 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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RizzoTheRat said:
Depends if you want to keep the vehicle or not. I'm training my A20 crew to 100% so I can transfer them to the ELC or T50-2 when I get one, but won't be selling the T50 any time soon so will still need to train anothe rlight crew. Up to tier 3 or 4 I found I could elite the vehicle before I'd got far training the crew, so I may as well start with a fresh crew on the next level up. However on my SU5, whcih I fon't intend to keep, I'd hit 97% training before I elited it so I may as well use the extra training bonus to speed the crew to 100% before I move them to a new vehicle.
errr - you can't (or at least couldn't, please correct me if they have changed it) transfer crews between nationalities...

One way to start off a new tank with 100% crew (without gold) is to keep them without a skill on their previous tank after they reach 100%. That way the 'skill points' are allocated first to learning the new tank before they are free to learning a skill. Only worthwhile if you're definitely planning on moving them up but a neat trick if you are.

Edited by sleepezy on Thursday 18th October 16:11

RizzoTheRat

25,192 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Bugger. I thoght it was only vehicle classes you couldn't swap around.

Am I right in thinking if you transfer a crew who are at say 85%, that the silver training will take them higher than the usual 75% of a new crew?

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

170 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Getting better with the SU 26


Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

170 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Took some advice somebody posted about aiming at the back of enemy vehicles to enhance hit points. thei was my fiirst game using that idea

Sound advice, Ta! thumbup


TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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RizzoTheRat said:
Am I right in thinking if you transfer a crew who are at say 85%, that the silver training will take them higher than the usual 75% of a new crew?
Yes. I think that if you have a 100% crew, then they start at 90%

TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Cheese Mechanic said:
Took some advice somebody posted about aiming at the back of enemy vehicles to enhance hit points. thei was my fiirst game using that idea

Sound advice, Ta! thumbup

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