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McSam
4,796 posts
44 months
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Ah, right - I should expect so, it's a serious cannon. Would go through the KV-3 anywhere but the mantlet, and far more accurate at range too. I'm quite looking forward to getting my hands on one!
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chris watton
12,342 posts
129 months
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I did have another session yesterday (it was that or go visit the MiL...), I have 12 tanks, Russian and German. In every first and second game with EVERY tank, the first hit from the enemy caused a fire and blew my tank/s up! It was really odd, if a little frustrating - took ages to get all of my x2 xp and credit.....
It was as if some hidden code had decided that for at 3 hours, all my tanks were gonna blow up, no matter what.
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Snails
471 posts
35 months
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I've played nearly all scout tanks at one point or another another and I'm now of thr opinion that the AMX ELC is the best of the bunch and suits my playing style. Unlike lots of other scouts it carries a very powerful gun allowing me to take on and damage much larger and heavier tanks. I can damage all but the very heaviest. It is however very slow to reload, but that gives me time to run away and get another run at the enemy. This is necessary due to the turret only rotating about 60 degree, so you have to drive very quick toward the side of the enemy shoot at very close range and then either stay close to outrun their turret rotation or hide (but keep moving ) I have rammers, vents and the thing that increases aiming speed and skilled crew to improve firing on the move.
I try to only target lone tanks that are unsupported and not in the open as this allows me to rush them and leaves them little chance of hitting me
My biggest enemies are other scouts, in particular the t50. The t59 as It's turret rotates very quickly , but if I find a distracted one I can have success.
I love it.
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bugeyewrx
239 posts
94 months
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DeadMeat_UK said: McSam said: bugeyewrx said: Many excellent things from good use of the KV-4 against IS-3s Thanks a lot for that - you must have put in a few hours in the KV-4 by now to have such defined ideas. Very impressive  I need to get myself on TS for more games. It's coming from the perspective of how unhappy I am in my IS-3 when I meet a KV-3 head on  I haven't got the BL-9 yet, so maybe that tips the balance. Not that many / long ... 75 games and just over 7hrs  it's more that in my long and painful journey from a really bad player to almost average  one of the blatantly obvious things I finally caught on to is that every tank is a bit different and one of the first things I need to do is figure out the play style for that tank.... So as I've got the time here is bugeye's guide on how to play the KV-4 in a sort of ok way First it's bad points, mainly because this is what defines it's play style. It's an arty magnet. It's slow on the flat and even slower on hills. It's an arty magnet. It's slow to manoeuvre. It's an arty magnet. The side and rear armour is a bit on the weak side. It's an arty magnet. Good points. It's got a very decent top gun. It's not a 'fear me and run away BL10' it's sort of a detuned version of the Lowe's gun. It's got a similar pen (227mm) and damage but is a bit slower to load, aim and not as accurate. The thing that lets it down as a sniper is that it seems to bounce more at distance than the Lowe. Up close it's very good, I've started to aim at the smaller R2D2 on KV-5's for the first couple of shots because a dead driver is a lot more of a problem than a dead radio man. I'd normally just go for the big R2D2 but the Zis is good enough to make the harder shot worth a go. The front armour is pretty decent at 180mm but it's flat so a bit vulnerable straight on.. but because it's flat it's easy to angle and you won't need a protractor to figure out what sort of angle you need.... about that seems to do the job  The KV-4's star turn is that it will take a vast amount of damage much more than it's 1650hp would suggest. The tracks especially seem to be able to soak up a lot of damage. Although it's slow that initial acceleration that you need to get out of cover and back in isn't too bad. You can hide from arty ( some of the time ) Play style: I'll add this later is anyone is interested as this post is getting a bit long...... McSam ... yes you need to get yourself on TS more often, apart from the play being better you missed the whole Burtons Gold pants and Evils wife whips some cream moments..... DeadMeat... you've got to think that the IS-3 needs the top gun to really be an IS-3 
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defblade
2,788 posts
82 months
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Just accidentally bought an ELC AMX... they still look like good fun  As I'm on the AMX 13/90 already, I just need 610 xp for the radio to elite it  I may also have given it all the upgrades straight away, a 100% crew, multicoloured camo... and rammer, vent and spall liner while they're all cheap (rude not to!). So that's half a million credits blown and a few hundred gold... hope I like it  Update: don;t know if we won or lost yet, but yep, one fun little tank. Die, arti, die!
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RizzoTheRat
8,064 posts
61 months
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Well it appears it's not just me that has massive losing streaks. I've just played about 30 games and only managed 8 wins, and in 2 separate games people commented on similar, one with 10 losses in a row and another wondering if he'll get an achievement for 20 losses in a row. I really don't get it, even if you loaded the game and then didn't play (as I seem to be seeing quite a lot) you'd still do better than that!
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chris watton
12,342 posts
129 months
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RizzoTheRat said: Well it appears it's not just me that has massive losing streaks. I've just played about 30 games and only managed 8 wins, and in 2 separate games people commented on similar, one with 10 losses in a row and another wondering if he'll get an achievement for 20 losses in a row. I really don't get it, even if you loaded the game and then didn't play (as I seem to be seeing quite a lot) you'd still do better than that! Frustraating, isn't it! Like me, catching fire at the merest hint of a hit 10 games in a row yesterday!
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MoleVision
774 posts
80 months
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Unf said: Snails said: If you haven't done so already, go the the Depot, select Modules and then 'not compatible with my vehicles' and then sell all your redundant modules that get taken off of tanks when any module is upgraded. Brilliant Top Tip there Snails. Just spent the last 30 minutes doing this and now have an additional 2.1m credits. Shame you can't sell them all in one go, I now have cramp... Seconded... 3.8m credits raised....
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FiF
18,379 posts
120 months
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Well earlier today 4 losses out of 5 games when the team didn't play at all badly, just nobody could kill anything, that saw me off to play with my U-boat.
Came back this evening, nearly can't lose, almost seems as if they've loaded me with depleted uranium shells. Even been killing stuff two tiers above with no trouble, yet shells bouncing off me despite paper thin armour. Tanks that I normally struggle against, pah!
OK so this evening is more fun admittedly, but essentially the game is borked imo.
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McSam
4,796 posts
44 months
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More great info, Bugeye, very interested to read all that - and I didn't know that's where the KV-5's driver lives! Have you got a link to all the tanks' module maps, or is that just experience and Eagle Eye? In any case, it seems much better than I initially thought and I won't discount getting one before my IS-3  and, TS play tomorrow night it is, then! 
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DeadMeat_UK
3,053 posts
151 months
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On the subject of hitboxes, at my age I have a very poor memory for the weakpoints of each and every tank. I'm playing up and down the tier tree so I meet most other tanks at some point.
I don't want to use skins as I think they would make me feel slightly cheaty and too desperate to win (and would spoil the look of the game).
I would, however find a quick reference a bit handy for a bit of revision. Anything out there? I've had a Google around and failed.
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bugeyewrx
239 posts
94 months
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McSam
4,796 posts
44 months
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I'd already seen the WoT forum thread, which is pretty good, but that second site is absolutely brilliant, thanks a lot for that! Good reading  I do keep meaning to watch those videos too, heard of them before, but I don't exactly need to spend more time on the game  Re. KV-4 and IS-3, I was thinking I'll have the KV-4 researched first but in fact I probably won't as while my IS is newer, I'm playing it more than my KV-3 anyway. And very much enjoying it!
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DeadMeat_UK
3,053 posts
151 months
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bugeyewrx said: Great stuff! THanks
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AM04ARO
2,713 posts
84 months
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I don't like the KV3 much. I did take 26 hits in it once which could have been the angle I was at or the poor aim of the other tanks.
Interesting game yesterday on Himmelsdorf, 5 arties per side.....
My win rate has gone down but over the last 4 or 5 days I have been fairly consistent. I even had 8 wins in a row with different tanks!
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jimmyjimjim
2,749 posts
107 months
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AM04ARO said: Interesting game yesterday on Himmelsdorf, 5 arties per side..... I was on Himmelsdorf once with 7 arties on our side. 8 on theirs. It was, as you might expect, an unbelievable pain in the arse.
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defblade
2,788 posts
82 months
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Another update: I'm really loving the ELC AMX  Most fun tank in the game? 9 battles, only 2 victories, but heigh-ho; the last battle I played gave 4 destroyed (3 of which were all the enemy's arti), 6 detected, 1518 XP, just over 40k credits, Reaper, Sharpshooter, Master Gunner and Class 1 Mastery Badge  So, I can aim for Ace, but not bad for 9 battles  May swap spall-liner for camo, as there have been several times I could have played a much better role if no-one had seen me spotting...
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The_Gza
434 posts
120 months
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Anyone else had a go of the new physics model yet? I downloaded the patch last night and had a quick go - there's something about jumping an ELC AMX stunt car style off a cliff that'll never get old! 
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McSam
4,796 posts
44 months
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Defblade, it really is a stunning little tank, isn't it?  I need to work out a good tactic of firing on the run, but just spotting with it and hammering artillery is awesome. I was doing it platooned last night, the two of us hammering around all over the place must have looked excellent! Downloading the new physics now. My connection is fine, as in it has a good latency and gives me ping around 60ms most of the time, but doing 2.4GB at around 300kB/s is always going to suck..
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DIW35
2,995 posts
69 months
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Has anyone got an AMX50 Foch(155) they can take in to battle for me to shoot, as it's now the only tank left for me to destroy to regain my Master Tanker award, and they're about as rare as rocking horse poop? Very frustrating having to play expensive tier 10 games in the hope of seeing one.
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