Fallout New Vegas - WITH SPOILERS.
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Well, I had a play with it last night. Started a new game, gave my character the Gobi Scout Rifle, the All-American, a LMG, plenty of ammo for them, decent armour, a tonne of caps, and a load of perks like the Animal Friend, Explorer, Grim Reaper's Spirit, etc etc.
Messed up straight away and accidentally sided with Goodsprings by choosing the wrong dialogue option. I may need to roll back on that, which does annoyingly undo an hour or so of gameplay.
Having the Animal Friend perk early on is pretty useful - you don't realise how many geckos and wild dogs are around the place till you see the radar awash with green. Bloat flies, fire ants, scorpions and radroaches are still hostile though.
But I did find myself simply strolling to Primm via Nipton, whereas on the first playthough you really had to fight your way there.
Anyway, we'll see whether I stick with it or give up.
Messed up straight away and accidentally sided with Goodsprings by choosing the wrong dialogue option. I may need to roll back on that, which does annoyingly undo an hour or so of gameplay.
Having the Animal Friend perk early on is pretty useful - you don't realise how many geckos and wild dogs are around the place till you see the radar awash with green. Bloat flies, fire ants, scorpions and radroaches are still hostile though.
But I did find myself simply strolling to Primm via Nipton, whereas on the first playthough you really had to fight your way there.
Anyway, we'll see whether I stick with it or give up.
JonRB said:
Well, there is at least 1 more DLC after this one, so probably not for a while.
Whatever they do, they're going to have to have a new game engine because this one is WELL past its "use by" date.
From what I've read it should be based on the same platform as the new Elder Scrolls game that is due out at the end of the year. Whatever they do, they're going to have to have a new game engine because this one is WELL past its "use by" date.
As for replaying NV: after losing the platinum chip half way through my second play through I've not even considered it. What I've read here about the DLC I can't be bothered with that.
Well, I threw my lot in with Caesar. I concentrated on just the main quest, didn't get side-tracked, used violence over diplomacy (simply killed the Boomers and the BoS to neutralise them), and have got to the "point of no return" before the battle of Hoover Dam in a mere 9 hours of gameplay. I don't know how that compares with doing the same on the "good" paths because I took my time on that playthrough, but I strongly suspect that far less time was spent on this path by the developers as they assumed fewer people would play it.
Bit disappointed that there wasn't a major atrocity on a par with nuking Megaton. Assassinating a few people isn't really in the same league.
Bit disappointed that there wasn't a major atrocity on a par with nuking Megaton. Assassinating a few people isn't really in the same league.
Oh, I meant to report back that after I did the Battle of Hoover Dam on the side of the Legion, I rolled back to just before and embarked on a Boone-like cull of my enemies, only rather than the Legion it was NCR. All the camps (including the large Camp Golf and Camp McCarron)... everyone dead. It's then that you see just now lacking and tacked-on the idea of siding with the Legion is. Quest after quest is failed just by killing NCR people, Crimson Caravan become hostile so all their quests go too, Cass is instantly hostile, Veronica won't stay with you (because you destroyed the BoS bunker), Boone won't join you, Arcade won't join you, and that leaves pretty poor pickings for both quests and companions.
I happened to stumble across the following review of F:NV from when it was released and it pretty much sums things up for me. I'm sure it's already been posted, but I don't remember reading it anyway.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/10/21/wot-i-t...
I happened to stumble across the following review of F:NV from when it was released and it pretty much sums things up for me. I'm sure it's already been posted, but I don't remember reading it anyway.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/10/21/wot-i-t...
r1ch said:
setting that nuke off at megaton was superb.
I did that on my second play through and remember watching it from that hotel balcony(?) and being genuinely excited. I'm 35 for f
ks sake, but that's how much I loved FO3.Of course, I forgot to get the Bobblehead before I blew the place up
Mazdarese said:
I did that on my second play through and remember watching it from that hotel balcony(?) and being genuinely excited. I'm 35 for fks sake, but that's how much I loved FO3.
Of course, I forgot to get the Bobblehead before I blew the place up
Yeah lol, i remember the moment on the hotel balcony, i was feeling mischevious. I too was excited at the age of 26. ks sake, but that's how much I loved FO3.Of course, I forgot to get the Bobblehead before I blew the place up
I really do immerse myself in the fallout games. I always feel like i've got my moneys worth out of the fallouts. I only really play fallout and COD, im not really a gamer. But a dominoes pizza, and a few jack daniels w/ coke, with a fallout session is an ideal night in for me.
I've always said NV was nothing compared to F3. It was a real disappointment.
But, when you consider that development started on Skyrim just after F3 was released you suddenly realise why NV feels like a DLC or expansion (and not even a good one).
Most of the 'A-Team' of developers would have been focused on the new Elder Scrolls game, instead of a 'fast-tracked' follow up to F3's success.
But, when you consider that development started on Skyrim just after F3 was released you suddenly realise why NV feels like a DLC or expansion (and not even a good one).
Most of the 'A-Team' of developers would have been focused on the new Elder Scrolls game, instead of a 'fast-tracked' follow up to F3's success.
JonRB said:
I happened to stumble across the following review of F:NV from when it was released and it pretty much sums things up for me. I'm sure it's already been posted, but I don't remember reading it anyway.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/10/21/wot-i-t...
It's funny that the majority of the respondents to that review seem really pro-NV and anti-FO3 (if you can express it that way) - lots of comments that they view the story and characterisation as superior in NV, and NV as a "true" sequel to FO1 and 2. Can't say that I agree! http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/10/21/wot-i-t...
In recent weeks I've gone back to FO3 to play bits I'd still not got round to (e.g. The Pitt) and complete my bobblehead collection. I was thinking I might start again and take a different path, e.g. blow up Megaton and be less of a goody-two-shoes generally.
Bill Carr said:
lots of comments that they view the story and characterisation as superior in NV, and NV as a "true" sequel to FO1 and 2. Can't say that I agree!
Well, there's more nods and winks to Fo1 and Fo2, as I understand it. A few peoples descendents turn up, or characters from them are mentioned or reoccur. So I can kind of understand what they are getting at. But that doesn't make it better than Fo3. Not by a long way. 
Just gone back to NV and now trying to complete as many side quests as possible before choosing a path to take. I want to side with the Legion as I went independant last time, but having read the comments here I'm not sure it's worth it. I might actaully help Mr House keep the strip if that is actually an option.
BrewsterBear said:
Just gone back to NV and now trying to complete as many side quests as possible before choosing a path to take. I want to side with the Legion as I went independant last time, but having read the comments here I'm not sure it's worth it. I might actaully help Mr House keep the strip if that is actually an option.
On all paths apart from the Legion you can choose pretty much at the end, so long as you defer choosing between Mr. House or Yes Man for as long as possible. If you save at that point you can play out the NCR, Mr. House and Yes Man endings pretty quickly from there. You can also be about to start the final assault siding with the Legion and still switch to Yes Man or Mr. House just before (providing you deferred choosing)
Note: If you are loved by the Legion, but choose to kill Mr. House and install Yes Man in his computer, you will instantly be hated by the Legion and won't be able to continue down the Legion path.
I know this really belongs in the Fallout3 thread, but that's so old and dead now it would be necromancy.
Here's a little homage to Fallout that I made today:
Project Purity by JonRB, on Flickr
Here's a little homage to Fallout that I made today:
Project Purity by JonRB, on Flickr
Edited by JonRB on Tuesday 23 August 00:49
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