GT5 B-Spec hints and tips

[freecar]

tim-b said:

It seems you can push your guy harder when in a slower/easier car - my bob does better lap times right in the red in a FWD car with good tyres, but in a RWD on comforts it's definitely better to keep him cooler. So maybe it's not as simple as keeping the dial centred, maybe it's a case of judging the optimum point for the particular car/driver combo?

I'd agree if my Bob didn't just drive two RWD cars with over 1000bhp/ton and drove like a champ with full on rage!!

[Mr Whippy]

freecar said:

tim-b said:

It seems you can push your guy harder when in a slower/easier car - my bob does better lap times right in the red in a FWD car with good tyres, but in a RWD on comforts it's definitely better to keep him cooler. So maybe it's not as simple as keeping the dial centred, maybe it's a case of judging the optimum point for the particular car/driver combo?

I'd agree if my Bob didn't just drive two RWD cars with over 1000bhp/ton and drove like a champ with full on rage!!

Same here. A 750bhp Murcielago around Rome seemed to be harder work for my bob, than a 750bhp sub 1 tonne Cobra on Laguna Seca!

I know which I'd have found harder work


I guess with time we will see patterns and stuff, but I think the model is fairly complicated whatever it is. Anyone decompiling the GT5 code yet?!

[Comacchio]

vdubbin said:

What's the cheapest option for German car for the Schwarzwalde B cup? Tried it in a 905 BHP RS6, but can't do better than 3rd. I'm guessing a lightly fettled R8 should do it, unless there's something cheaper? There was a Yellowbird in the UCD last night that I probably should have picked up…

Edited by vdubbin on Tuesday 14th December 13:20

Ive put him in a 500 hp RUF RGT and hes about 6 corners ahead of the R8 behind me.

-Allan

[freecar]

Comacchio said:

vdubbin said:

What's the cheapest option for German car for the Schwarzwalde B cup? Tried it in a 905 BHP RS6, but can't do better than 3rd. I'm guessing a lightly fettled R8 should do it, unless there's something cheaper? There was a Yellowbird in the UCD last night that I probably should have picked up…

Edited by vdubbin on Tuesday 14th December 13:20

Ive put him in a 500 hp RUF RGT and hes about 6 corners ahead of the R8 behind me.

-Allan

I used my C63 AMG from the special event tuned up for the first race, in the second he couldn't do it, just kept spinning the tyres until they were gone, did the same with harder compound tyres in the same number of laps!! I bought an SLS AMG and tuned it up, he does it in that without using 25% of the tyres!!

[tim-b]

Has anyone fired their driver yet? I had to let my level 9 driver go last night. Nice Japanese chap, but he just didn't have the balls to overtake....replaced him with a fiery Frenchman, who was getting better results from the first race!

[Mr Whippy]

I must admit that my 2nd driver is doing better than my first. His mood bar thing is just above middle, and he seems to manage to overtake on his own so much better.

It's like the cool driver (my 1st bob is almost bottom on the cool/hot mood thing) is just far too laid back to even want to win. In real life he wouldn't have a job as a race driver but there you go


So entered lvl 9 bob in lvl 16 races in not that much faster a car, and he's been levelling up a lvl per race entry and coming first and staying there ALL on his own!

So, my advice is to try get a driver with a mood bar in the middle.

Maybe my super chilled bob will be handy later on doing a 24hr race, but for the early part of the game he is rather ste!

Dave

[illmonkey]

I've not bothered with 2 Bobs yet. But if I create a new one, does he need to get his level up? Or is the level for me, and I can create a new driver to race in level 12 races?

[dpbird90]

I hate B Spec with a passion. Have just started using it as I need some of the prize cars, but the drivers are so docile its annoying. It took almost 2 laps on the first Sunday cup race for my driver to overtake a Yaris. The car he was driving? My 700bhp Ferrari 458. Pathetic.

[illmonkey]

dpbird90 said:

I hate B Spec with a passion. Have just started using it as I need some of the prize cars, but the drivers are so docile its annoying. It took almost 2 laps on the first Sunday cup race for my driver to overtake a Yaris. The car he was driving? My 700bhp Ferrari 458. Pathetic.

Was he spinning it at every corner? Its been discussed (at length) that you should give them a more comparable car, that they wont over do it on every corner.

[dpbird90]

illmonkey said:

dpbird90 said:

I hate B Spec with a passion. Have just started using it as I need some of the prize cars, but the drivers are so docile its annoying. It took almost 2 laps on the first Sunday cup race for my driver to overtake a Yaris. The car he was driving? My 700bhp Ferrari 458. Pathetic.

Was he spinning it at every corner? Its been discussed (at length) that you should give them a more comparable car, that they wont over do it on every corner.

For the first few corners yes, then he settled down. I will give it a shot later on tonight with the MX5

[freecar]

dpbird90 said:

I hate B Spec with a passion. Have just started using it as I need some of the prize cars, but the drivers are so docile its annoying. It took almost 2 laps on the first Sunday cup race for my driver to overtake a Yaris. The car he was driving? My 700bhp Ferrari 458. Pathetic.

B-Spec is a slow burner to start off with, you're right though, you need some of the cars on offer.

Put your ferrari back stock, it'll be easier to drive for Bob, once he's levelled up a few times you'll be able to leave him in a super capable car, provide no guidance and he'll still win it for you, last night four of my Bobs were lapping Grand Valley Speedway in a Mclaren F1 thats tuned on sport tyres, they always win but they spend five laps before pit stop hanging to tail out on knackered tyres! It's a huge XP boost the 60 lap endurance and I just let him get on with it, he's doing it again now in a Mazda Furai, tyres are lasting a lot longer, I needed five pit stops before, probably be one less now! It's a less tiring car for them as well, my main guy still has 25% strength left, he was empty in the F1!

Tyres are VERY IMPORTANT!! B-spec often allows lesser tyres than the equivalent race in A-spec, if you haven't the specific tyres on offer you could be on wets in the dry! Always check before a race too, if your car was on racing tyres and sports are the order of the day the computer will put you on hards not softs!

You don't need two Bobs until you're doing some of the extreme events, you'll need four for the endurance races, I would say wait until the endurances are open before you get more than two bobs as they will level up like idiots in an endurance races, granted you'll probably need more pit stops but you're against standard japanes sports cars in the first unlocked one so easily beatable with a decent car even if you need two additional stops! I've got five bobs but one is being ignored as I only need four in the current races, I'm allowed my last one now and have all six, can't see me needing them until the 24Hr if at all!



Edit, My No1 Bob is now on lap 23 of 60 on his original tyres and just lapped 5 seconds faster than the next fastest driver's lap record! One of my drivers is going to miss out on a stint now! Whole field showing two laps down no strength left physical or mental yet still kaning the map times, he's got to want to pit at the end of this lap surely!?!

Edited by freecar on Wednesday 15th December 13:36

[kourgath]

From the 'other' thread

Bob 1 is level 12 doing the supercar nostalgia at Rome, he's using the Buick Special with plenty of mods he can't do better than 5th with a 1:28.6 best lap, I (with less power and no LSD) 1:20.5 (not brilliant but OK). So created a new Bob a bit hotter and he (level 0) does a 1:27.1 on his first go. Created another Bob middling personality, called him J Herbert, chose green suit yellow helmet. First outing same as above best lap is 1:24 - level 0 and he's power sliding and drifting all the corners. Spun it lap 2 down to 12th (afer a nudge from a Muira). 2 Laps later he's back in fourth. Spun last lap ended 7th.

So it seems pot luck as to how good your Bob is.

Update:
Bob 3 is turning out great seems to enjoy the Countach in the nostalgia races more than the Buick. Plenty of drifting and even slingshot manoeuvres on some of the corners. Though I have fitted a LSD and kept TC on 5.

Bob 3 is now 11 and I can almost trust him for a whole race...

[freecar]

kourgath said:

From the 'other' thread

Bob 1 is level 12 doing the supercar nostalgia at Rome, he's using the Buick Special with plenty of mods he can't do better than 5th with a 1:28.6 best lap, I (with less power and no LSD) 1:20.5 (not brilliant but OK). So created a new Bob a bit hotter and he (level 0) does a 1:27.1 on his first go. Created another Bob middling personality, called him J Herbert, chose green suit yellow helmet. First outing same as above best lap is 1:24 - level 0 and he's power sliding and drifting all the corners. Spun it lap 2 down to 12th (afer a nudge from a Muira). 2 Laps later he's back in fourth. Spun last lap ended 7th.

So it seems pot luck as to how good your Bob is.

Update:
Bob 3 is turning out great seems to enjoy the Countach in the nostalgia races more than the Buick. Plenty of drifting and even slingshot manoeuvres on some of the corners. Though I have fitted a LSD and kept TC on 5.

Bob 3 is now 11 and I can almost trust him for a whole race...

I've read that another PHer has had to sack a driver for being too timid! I must have been quite lucky then as all five of my drivers are ok and four of them are stars, passing on the outside sideways in bends in my Zonda R, harrying their opponents into making a mistake I love them, I end up watching them too much thoughas it's so much fun seeing my guys drive like loonies! I swapped the rears for sports hards with mediums up front in the zonda and it was hilarious, my guy couldn't do more than about seven laps before the rears were dead!

[Chunkychucky]

I also was wondering, when you create a new "Bob" at level 0/1 or whatever, do you have to start them off in the Sunday Cup amateur races, or can you enter them into the races that your highest level B spec driver is allowed to enter?

[illmonkey]

Chunkychucky said:

I also was wondering, when you create a new "Bob" at level 0/1 or whatever, do you have to start them off in the Sunday Cup amateur races, or can you enter them into the races that your highest level B spec driver is allowed to enter?

No one answered me either. Gimmie 30 mins and I'll take a look at home.

[Mr Whippy]

illmonkey said:

Chunkychucky said:

I also was wondering, when you create a new "Bob" at level 0/1 or whatever, do you have to start them off in the Sunday Cup amateur races, or can you enter them into the races that your highest level B spec driver is allowed to enter?

No one answered me either. Gimmie 30 mins and I'll take a look at home.

New drivers can enter any race.

They will level up very quick if you give them a really good car (balanced), on an easy race, at a high level.

So say the Schwarzwald thingy with Opel Speedsters and Golf GTi's, throwing a newbie b-spec in an R10 Audi and he'll level up very very quickly as he wins and can manage to drive around easily (R10 is fairly easy to drive fast enough to overtake the cars in the competition)

Dave

[Steve in Stoke]

Chunkychucky said:

I also was wondering, when you create a new "Bob" at level 0/1 or whatever, do you have to start them off in the Sunday Cup amateur races, or can you enter them into the races that your highest level B spec driver is allowed to enter?

No, I stuck mine in a Stealth 787b on the Expert Turbo High Speed Ring race - 5 laps later and he is level 4 already. It is an easy track for them, in a vastly overpwered car and a quick way to get them levelled up for the endurance races later on.

I also put a level 9 into a 4hr endurance race last night, and he was level 14 when he finished the race - he has a win rate of only 6/6 to get there.

[freecar]

I mentioned this in the OP and maybe later as well. Where you only need two drivers up until the endurance events, if you were to concentrate on the first two drivers you'll be able to enter level 0 Bobs into endurance events, it'll be tough on them and they'll need to pit frequently as they will be knackered but I reckon they'll gain 8 or 10 ranks in their first race! My main driver in the Furai can do nearly half the first endurance event on his own, easy enough to let a noob take the wheel for half a dozen laps before the next best driver takes over to undo any mistakes that he made and win it for you!

[MikeyLCR]

Why is my Bob so rubbish on the oval? He's annoying the hell out of me! Quite a decent driver in most events but doesn't matter what kit I give him in either the truck race or the supercars and the best he can do is 9th or 10th

[Mr Whippy]

Just generally wondering.

Anyone here on expert B-spec races using the Zonda R?

It can compete in many of the races, throw a turbo on for the turbo series, and the faster tracks, and it's just winning everything easily. Great for speccing up my new b-spec drivers.


Is a Vette ZR1 with race kit going to be better than the Zonda R? Just before I blow a load of dosh on the race kit for it... would rather buy a nice shiny Enzo

Dave