GT5 B-Spec hints and tips

[Cragglea1]

Its not long before I lead old BOB outside with the shot gun under my arm. Im in the same boat as every one else. I have given bob a 600bhp Ford truck and at Daytona he seems to break into every corner and then mid corner. Off the start I get like a 5 second lead and then he just looses it all and comes 3rd every race! Im gonna kill him soon!

[freecar]

Mr Whippy said:

Just generally wondering.

Anyone here on expert B-spec races using the Zonda R?

It can compete in many of the races, throw a turbo on for the turbo series, and the faster tracks, and it's just winning everything easily. Great for speccing up my new b-spec drivers.


Is a Vette ZR1 with race kit going to be better than the Zonda R? Just before I blow a load of dosh on the race kit for it... would rather buy a nice shiny Enzo

Dave

I've used the Zonda loads, it's a great car for B-Spec, I've also got the ZR1RM, I don't really use the ZR1, I've still got the american cup to do yet but I'm passed that and onto the endurance events now which reminds me.

• ********************Rank up your B-spec drivers faster than normal, select only three drivers for an endurance event, my main driver is now only one rank behind my overall B-Spec rank.**********************************

[Mr Whippy]

Arghhh, my Cobra, even with 900kg and 750bhp, isn't enough for that Historic Race... noooo...

And you can't put aero on a Cobra... nooooo... again


There really is nothing to choose from as exotic as the stuff you race against, except £££ cars in the new dealership.

What cars are others using to even have a chance? I didn't finish that far back at all, and was up in 5th at times, but the two Toyota's with turbos hanging out their arses looked pretty rapido!

[freecar]

Mr Whippy said:

Arghhh, my Cobra, even with 900kg and 750bhp, isn't enough for that Historic Race... noooo...

And you can't put aero on a Cobra... nooooo... again


There really is nothing to choose from as exotic as the stuff you race against, except £££ cars in the new dealership.

What cars are others using to even have a chance? I didn't finish that far back at all, and was up in 5th at times, but the two Toyota's with turbos hanging out their arses looked pretty rapido!

You need to win like the wind in both A & B spec, you use the car you win in one to win the other and that gives you the toyota 7 620Kg and about 950bhp once upgraded!

Edited by freecar on Thursday 16th December 00:28

[Mr Whippy]

Nice one, thanks!

[freecar]

Mr Whippy said:

Nice one, thanks!

No worries, I've been there, it's a right stalemate sometimes!

[freecar]

• *****************CONFIRMED***********************

To level up your B-spec drivers, the best events are endurance. As the computer expects four drivers, the xp points are designed to be shared between four, use three drivers and each get more than they would have normally, my B-spec rank is 27 yet my main driver is a rank 28! Higher than the events he can currently enter!!

[Uhura fighter]

B-Spec Nascar lvl 21:

Help!

I have Main Bob upto lvl 24 but can't do the Nascar with him.

First race, no problem I can get the little fker to finish with a 14 second gap. Second race at Grand Valley we are pants. I don't think I have the correct setup as he has eaten his tyres by the last few laps and will spin on the last lap.

I have been using these from Gamespot:
Front Downforce: 45
Rear Downforce: 45
Front Breaks: 1
Rear Breaks: 0
Front Ride Height: -30
Rear Ride Height: -30
Transmission (Top Speed): 249 MPH = 400 km/h

Race 2

==========

Front Downforce: 45
Rear Downforce: 45
Front Breaks: 1
Rear Breaks: 0
Front Ride Height: -30
Rear Ride Height: -30
Transmission (Top Speed): 219 MPH = 350 km/h

Race 3
...Don't push bob too hard on this one, otherwise you will pit in on your last lap for a tire change and lose the race.

==========

Front Downforce: 45
Rear Downforce: 45
Front Breaks: 1
Rear Breaks: 0
Front Ride Height: -30
Rear Ride Height: -30
Transmission (Top Speed): 236 MPH = 380 km/h



Any Ideas, should I just play with the downforce so he can finish the race, anyone got a link to a better setup?

TIA.

[Comacchio]

Use the given downforce settings, but tell him to cool down and overtake ONLY until the 6th or 7th lap. Thats the best way to remain 6th to 3rd position, then in the last 2 laps hammer him hard with increase pace and overtake. My bob won it by 3 seconds doing this.

-Allan

[Uhura fighter]

Comacchio said:

Use the given downforce settings, but tell him to cool down and overtake ONLY until the 6th or 7th lap. Thats the best way to remain 6th to 3rd position, then in the last 2 laps hammer him hard with increase pace and overtake. My bob won it by 3 seconds doing this.

-Allan

Cheers Allan.

Bob got second, huge improvement on my previous best of 8th. It appears to be all about saving your tyres.

[matsmith]

My bob just "encouraged" the leader to take a pit stop at the end of lap one (of 7) at the Cape Ring! I couldn't have done it better!

He came so close to being retired, but he seems to be getting there now that I have stopped giving him stupid cars such as a 1200bhp Veyron with hard sports tyres.

[freecar]

matsmith said:

My bob just "encouraged" the leader to take a pit stop at the end of lap one (of 7) at the Cape Ring! I couldn't have done it better!

He came so close to being retired, but he seems to be getting there now that I have stopped giving him stupid cars such as a 1200bhp Veyron with hard sports tyres.

Ha ha, I'm glad it's happened to someone else now, I watched my Bob get in a tussle with an NSX only for him to pitch the poor guy backwards into the pits!! Atta Boy!

[Mr Whippy]

freecar said:

Mr Whippy said:

Nice one, thanks!

No worries, I've been there, it's a right stalemate sometimes!

Stuck again.

I'm trying to do like the wind, but to no avail.

My best driver is lvl 18 which I think may be the issue, since it's a lvl 21 race.

Just doing what he did on the truck race, braking LOADS at the bends on the oval.

Tried maxxed out Veyron, Zonda R, Cien, Furai, C6 race spec etc etc... no good. Just brakes hard in them all.


Is this just ste b-spec, or a lvl issue? Just going to get one driver levelled up to 21 ish and see if this issue of not braking will go away... but worried this is a bug in the AI on the banked circuits?!

Any advice much appreciated

Or a lend of a car perhaps


Dave

[working class]

Mr freecar, on an unrelated matter - YHM.

[Steve in Stoke]

Mr Whippy said:

freecar said:

Mr Whippy said:

Nice one, thanks!

No worries, I've been there, it's a right stalemate sometimes!

Stuck again.

I'm trying to do like the wind, but to no avail.

My best driver is lvl 18 which I think may be the issue, since it's a lvl 21 race.

Just doing what he did on the truck race, braking LOADS at the bends on the oval.

Tried maxxed out Veyron, Zonda R, Cien, Furai, C6 race spec etc etc... no good. Just brakes hard in them all.


Is this just ste b-spec, or a lvl issue? Just going to get one driver levelled up to 21 ish and see if this issue of not braking will go away... but worried this is a bug in the AI on the banked circuits?!

Any advice much appreciated

Or a lend of a car perhaps


Dave

Try using the Increase Pace command as he approaches the end of the straight - if you time it right he will not brake, more just lift off. Do that a few times and he seems to learn that the higher speed can be done. It worked OK for me with a similar level driver, who now takes the Indy bends at 210mph in the FGT!

[freecar]

Mr Whippy said:

freecar said:

Mr Whippy said:

Nice one, thanks!

No worries, I've been there, it's a right stalemate sometimes!

Stuck again.

I'm trying to do like the wind, but to no avail.

My best driver is lvl 18 which I think may be the issue, since it's a lvl 21 race.

Just doing what he did on the truck race, braking LOADS at the bends on the oval.

Tried maxxed out Veyron, Zonda R, Cien, Furai, C6 race spec etc etc... no good. Just brakes hard in them all.


Is this just ste b-spec, or a lvl issue? Just going to get one driver levelled up to 21 ish and see if this issue of not braking will go away... but worried this is a bug in the AI on the banked circuits?!

Any advice much appreciated

Or a lend of a car perhaps


Dave

If you win the race in A-spec you get the Minolta 88-V, use this to win the B-Spec race, for which you'll be given the Toyota 7 which can win the historic cup. I had to keep my Bob at the top of his gauge for the entire race, I constantly and I do mean constantly told him to increase pace for all 18 laps!

[freecar]

working class said:

Mr freecar, on an unrelated matter - YHM.

Just spotted that, replied!

[Meoricin]

Just managed to win the American Championship's Indy race using my Impala Nascar - made sure the oil was fresh, gearing set to 249, brakes 1/1 and downforce 45 front 40 rear, just spammed overtake until he was in front, and then speed up all the way. Won by a couple seconds.

Currently running the Laguna Seca race to see if the car will work for that too.

[skibum]

Cragglea1 said:

Its not long before I lead old BOB outside with the shot gun under my arm. Im in the same boat as every one else. I have given bob a 600bhp Ford truck and at Daytona he seems to break into every corner and then mid corner. Off the start I get like a 5 second lead and then he just looses it all and comes 3rd every race! Im gonna kill him soon!

I think I ended up changing the top speed on the transmission to about 230 - this meant that he started taking more speed into and through the corners.

[Mr Whippy]

skibum said:

Cragglea1 said:

Its not long before I lead old BOB outside with the shot gun under my arm. Im in the same boat as every one else. I have given bob a 600bhp Ford truck and at Daytona he seems to break into every corner and then mid corner. Off the start I get like a 5 second lead and then he just looses it all and comes 3rd every race! Im gonna kill him soon!

I think I ended up changing the top speed on the transmission to about 230 - this meant that he started taking more speed into and through the corners.

I've really struggled with Bob on these circuits.

Give him the ZR1 Race car on a 'normal' circuit, and I can punt and pressure my Bob along to win against R8 Lemans stuff, but then get him on the banked circuit in the same car, against lesser cars, and he really is struggling to corner.

Sometimes, with good use of the 'increase pace' as Freecar suggested, at the right times, he'll carry lots more speed into the bend, 165mph say, rather than 145mph... a huge difference.
But it's just not consistent.

I've levelled him up more beyond the level for that race too, but he just doesn't seem capable of driving on these circuits.
Even on Daytona he'll jerk brake over the s/f line weirdly.

Clearly the other AI doesn't have an issue with it, so I'm not sure really where the issue is. Is this a bug, or a 'feature' that doesn't work right, or some kind of unspoken training element where you need to drive Bob many times on these circuits until he is happy on them?
Perhaps a car setup issue but it's hard to detect because Bob doesn't ever say anything to you?
Maybe a fudging element by PD to force you to A-spec to get the Like the Wind prize, or perhaps grind to buy a Lemans car or something!?


Ignoring the historic cup and like the wind in b-spec though, you can happily sail through the other series and races with the Zonda R or Furai... which is now what I am doing. I can return to these buggy races later and finish them off with the X1

Dave