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PGD5

1,112 posts

80 months

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That DOF calculator is very interesting, thanks for the link

Here's the first shot of my new motor, now I'm pretty much done with the styling mods smile


My Black NC MX5 by PGDesigns.co.uk, on Flickr

GetCarter

20,966 posts

176 months

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/\ nice.

Death of a rowing boat:


Dogsey

3,844 posts

127 months

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PGD5 said:
That DOF calculator is very interesting, thanks for the link

Here's the first shot of my new motor, now I'm pretty much done with the styling mods smile


My Black NC MX5 by PGDesigns.co.uk, on Flickr
Missing the Mk1 yet? wink

AstonZagato

5,254 posts

107 months

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Harry Flashman said:
That's great help: and it shows me that the PEN telephoto at 150mm/5.6 will give a shallower DOF than the 45mm/1.8. Very useful, and makes the 40-150mm 4.0-5.6 more what I seem to be after than the 45 1.8.

Looks like the 45mm lens will probably be good for portrait photography, as at 6 feet it gives a 0.28 ft DOF: the tel It will probably do better action shots at 45mm than the telephoto, due to the ability to get a faster shutter speed in. But I can get depth of field down to 0.08ft at 6 feet away at 150mm zoom on the telephoto, and I'm more interested in getting photos like Rob's fern one above than sport/action shots. I'm just guessing that light will be more of an issue with the telephoto lens.

In reality, I need to try them both before deciding, I guess...
I seem to remember that (with 35mm film) a 125mm lens was normally recommended for portraits. The logic was that 125mm is a reasonable approximation to the perceived focal length of the human eye and so features were rendered in the most natural way.

Is my recollection wrong?


Harry Flashman

10,058 posts

139 months

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gingerpaul said:
Harry Flashman said:
That's great help: and it shows me that the PEN telephoto at 150mm/5.6 will give a shallower DOF than the 45mm/1.8. Very useful, and makes the 40-150mm 4.0-5.6 more what I seem to be after than the 45 1.8.

Looks like the 45mm lens will probably be good for portrait photography, as at 6 feet it gives a 0.28 ft DOF: the tel It will probably do better action shots at 45mm than the telephoto, due to the ability to get a faster shutter speed in. But I can get depth of field down to 0.08ft at 6 feet away at 150mm zoom on the telephoto, and I'm more interested in getting photos like Rob's fern one above than sport/action shots. I'm just guessing that light will be more of an issue with the telephoto lens.

In reality, I need to try them both before deciding, I guess...
Are you using a micro 4/3rds camera? I used to have the 20mm f/1.7 and it takes really nice pictures. I can pop up a few examples if you're interested. smile
I am - and yes please! The more I research, the more the 1.8 appeals (either in the Panasonic 20mm or the Olympus 45mm flavour), for the sort of photography I enjoy - quite a lot of indoor, attempts at bokeh etc.

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PGD5

1,112 posts

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Dogsey said:
Missing the Mk1 yet? wink
So far, nope.. Ask me again next friday when I'm on the Max5 trackday at Croft...

I'm not driving on the day, no doubt I'll be missing a track bias car then!

markmullen

15,438 posts

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AstonZagato said:
I seem to remember that (with 35mm film) a 125mm lens was normally recommended for portraits. The logic was that 125mm is a reasonable approximation to the perceived focal length of the human eye and so features were rendered in the most natural way.

Is my recollection wrong?
Generally on 35mm (and hence full frame digital) it is given as 50mm being equivalent to the human eye, hence about 35mm on a crop sensor.

My dad was a professional photographer in the 60s and 70s and says most of them considered either 85mm or 135mm ideal focal lengths for portraits.

GetCarter

20,966 posts

176 months

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(It's a buzzard, not dust!)

2slo

1,971 posts

64 months

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/\ I knew you were a bird photographer at heart smile

GetCarter

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2slo said:
/\ I knew you were a bird photographer at heart smile


Blukoo

3,765 posts

94 months

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PGD5 said:
That DOF calculator is very interesting, thanks for the link

Here's the first shot of my new motor, now I'm pretty much done with the styling mods smile


My Black NC MX5 by PGDesigns.co.uk, on Flickr
I love that. I can't put my finger on what it is about it, but it just looks brilliant.

PGD5

1,112 posts

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Blukoo said:
I love that. I can't put my finger on what it is about it, but it just looks brilliant.
The shot or the car?

I'm happy with either mind, as they are both mine biggrin

Blukoo

3,765 posts

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PGD5 said:
Blukoo said:
I love that. I can't put my finger on what it is about it, but it just looks brilliant.
The shot or the car?

I'm happy with either mind, as they are both mine biggrin
Well now that you mention it, although i'm not really a fan of the MX5, yours does look very smart. I think the colour coded badge and the lack of a front plate makes it look quite mean.
The shot is what I was originally referring to though. It's not often a picture with a dull grey sky can look good but it works in this shot.

PGD5

1,112 posts

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Blukoo said:
Well now that you mention it, although i'm not really a fan of the MX5, yours does look very smart. I think the colour coded badge and the lack of a front plate makes it look quite mean.
The shot is what I was originally referring to though. It's not often a picture with a dull grey sky can look good but it works in this shot.
Glad to hear it smile

This was intended to be a quick snap shot to show what has been done to the car. But as ever I've opened it with PS and took it a bit further.. I can't help myself!

baz7175

3,498 posts

108 months

paul911

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GetCarter said:


(It's a buzzard, not dust!)
Cool sky Steve smile

paul911

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Martyn D

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I must be in the minority who wants to make a mountain out of a mole hill as that's about the only thing here that breaks up the horizon!

Lovely photos of the Scottish scenery gentlemen

RobDickinson

17,233 posts

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Harry Flashman said:
Rob, would you mind sharing the settings you used for that photo
As said I used a 400mm at f5.6 on a full frame canon 5d2.
The equivalent on a MTF camera would be 200mmf2.8
Subject was about 5m away I think, mebe more.

I didnt go out to shoot this stuff with a 400, I was looking for birds, but as usual the best gear you have is the gear in your hands. 400mm/200mm(mtf) is quite unwieldy for this stuff, you need to be a fair distance away and you introduce shutter speed/ISO issues.

I'd recommend the 45mm f1.8 for a good start on mtf for dof abuse. Though one thing that mtf makes tricky is subject isolation.




dtiom

237 posts

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Hi Folks, I've been lurking far too long admiring some of the excellent pictures, reading and learning from some of the postings. We had a couple of hours of the Aurora on Monday night and I thought I might share a couple.

C&C welcomed:


Aurora by dave thornley, on Flickr

and one with my car wink


Aurora by dave thornley, on Flickr
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