The all GoPro models discussion thread
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malks222 said:
I know the price for the drone excludes the cost of the camera, but I was meaning I've been looking at drones and also looking to buy a go-pro type camera. I just think they've managed to get their pricing spot on for buying the drone/ camera/ gimbal all in one package. !
I'd agree if it wasn't for the real shortage of features in the drone. They really aren't all created equal and it's a lot of money for something that ends up collecting dust in a cupboard 
Once the DJI is out, there should be a few round up reviews coming out showing the difference between the competition and testing them in the real world. Until then I'd keep your money safe. GoPro aren't the industry leaders they once were, though the name holds a lot of clout.
(Fair disclosure - I have a GoPro Session, which is great and a Yuneec Typhoon H which is a stunning drone. My cousin flies a Phantom and gets really good results from it)
I've just seen some leaked pictures of the DJI Mavic...
Looks to have the obstacle avoidance and active track as well as the indoor possition hold.
Also looks to be even smaller than the Karma once it's all folded up.
It does however have what looks to be a fixed camera.
The controller for it looks interesting too, much smaller than what DJI use now, but looks like you will still need smarthphone/tablet for the video.
Being that I already own a GoPro 4 Black and was looking for a handheld gimble I will still be interested in the Karma.
I have no need for a "follow me" function and I have done enough flying to not need obstacle avoidance etc.
I will be flying/controlling it. That's part of the fun, not just pressing buttons and it doing it on its own!
Looks to have the obstacle avoidance and active track as well as the indoor possition hold.
Also looks to be even smaller than the Karma once it's all folded up.
It does however have what looks to be a fixed camera.
The controller for it looks interesting too, much smaller than what DJI use now, but looks like you will still need smarthphone/tablet for the video.
Being that I already own a GoPro 4 Black and was looking for a handheld gimble I will still be interested in the Karma.
I have no need for a "follow me" function and I have done enough flying to not need obstacle avoidance etc.
I will be flying/controlling it. That's part of the fun, not just pressing buttons and it doing it on its own!
Edited by andyr30 on Wednesday 21st September 14:14
andyr30 said:
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I have no need for a "follow me" function and I have done enough flying to not need obstacle avoidance etc.
I will be flying/controlling it. That's part of the fun, not just pressing buttons and it doing it on its own!
I've found that setting up pre-planned routes and then having it fly them whilst you have full control of the camera works very well. When you're flying it, it's quite a challenge to also have the thing you want to film front and centre in the camera at the same time as flying off in a different direction, so unless you're just filming static things like mountains, the assist modes can be helpful.I have no need for a "follow me" function and I have done enough flying to not need obstacle avoidance etc.
I will be flying/controlling it. That's part of the fun, not just pressing buttons and it doing it on its own!
The side effect of the obstacle avoidance/indoor navigation stuff is that the drone is a lot more stable. If you're relying solely on GPS, you can end up with two or three feet worth of drift. Again, it doesn't matter for mountains, but if you're capturing people or getting in close to the action, it helps.
The one common thing with all drones is the high rate at which their owners crash them into things. I wouldn't be brave enough to say I'm immune to doing that
Tuna said:
I've found that setting up pre-planned routes and then having it fly them whilst you have full control of the camera works very well. When you're flying it, it's quite a challenge to also have the thing you want to film front and centre in the camera at the same time as flying off in a different direction, so unless you're just filming static things like mountains, the assist modes can be helpful.
The side effect of the obstacle avoidance/indoor navigation stuff is that the drone is a lot more stable. If you're relying solely on GPS, you can end up with two or three feet worth of drift. Again, it doesn't matter for mountains, but if you're capturing people or getting in close to the action, it helps.
The one common thing with all drones is the high rate at which their owners crash them into things. I wouldn't be brave enough to say I'm immune to doing that
Yeah I can agree with the difficulty of controlling both drone and camera...ie. trying to pan the drone and tilt the camera at the same time. Having the drone fly itself whilst you control camera movement is beneficial. The side effect of the obstacle avoidance/indoor navigation stuff is that the drone is a lot more stable. If you're relying solely on GPS, you can end up with two or three feet worth of drift. Again, it doesn't matter for mountains, but if you're capturing people or getting in close to the action, it helps.
The one common thing with all drones is the high rate at which their owners crash them into things. I wouldn't be brave enough to say I'm immune to doing that
The Karma has the option of offloading camera control to a seperated device which sounds like a good idea.
I film a lot of outdoor stuff in wide open spaces so maybes my view of the features is a bit blinkered....and possibly why I've avoided crashing so far!
andyr30 said:
I've just seen some leaked pictures of the DJI Mavic...
Looks to have the obstacle avoidance and active track as well as the indoor possition hold.
Also looks to be even smaller than the Karma once it's all folded up.
It does however have what looks to be a fixed camera.
The controller for it looks interesting too, much smaller than what DJI use now, but looks like you will still need smarthphone/tablet for the video.
Being that I already own a GoPro 4 Black and was looking for a handheld gimble I will still be interested in the Karma.
I have no need for a "follow me" function and I have done enough flying to not need obstacle avoidance etc.
I will be flying/controlling it. That's part of the fun, not just pressing buttons and it doing it on its own!
I hate having to connect phone/tablet to the controller every time I want to fly the drone, also that causes issues with software etc so Karma is +1 for me. Also from leaked info it's apparently up to 300m wifi distance only, so in reality it will be much less. Karma is 1km so a big improvement.Looks to have the obstacle avoidance and active track as well as the indoor possition hold.
Also looks to be even smaller than the Karma once it's all folded up.
It does however have what looks to be a fixed camera.
The controller for it looks interesting too, much smaller than what DJI use now, but looks like you will still need smarthphone/tablet for the video.
Being that I already own a GoPro 4 Black and was looking for a handheld gimble I will still be interested in the Karma.
I have no need for a "follow me" function and I have done enough flying to not need obstacle avoidance etc.
I will be flying/controlling it. That's part of the fun, not just pressing buttons and it doing it on its own!
Edited by andyr30 on Wednesday 21st September 14:14
Some early details are coming out of the new crop.
Footage from the Mavic looks pretty poor. It's perhaps more of a racing quad than a camera drone. If you're into FPV this might be the best, but the video is disappointing.
The Karma seems to go the other way - it's all camera, no drone. You get a lot of toys in the box, but if your priority is flying, GoPro are playing catch up.
The Dobby is a little 'bare' - only 5 mins flight time and slightly wobbly footage. The benefit is it's incredibly small and pretty cheap.
I had a brief go with the Yuneec Breeze - it's a bit of a sweet spot for a lunchbox drone, incredibly easy to fly, rock solid indoors, comes with a couple of batteries and a pretty decent camera. Like the Dobby though, it's not designed for long flights.
At the moment, it's not about which is the 'best' - they all suit rather different needs, and no-one is producing the 'ultimate drone' that does it all, is small, quiet and produces top quality video.
Footage from the Mavic looks pretty poor. It's perhaps more of a racing quad than a camera drone. If you're into FPV this might be the best, but the video is disappointing.
The Karma seems to go the other way - it's all camera, no drone. You get a lot of toys in the box, but if your priority is flying, GoPro are playing catch up.
The Dobby is a little 'bare' - only 5 mins flight time and slightly wobbly footage. The benefit is it's incredibly small and pretty cheap.
I had a brief go with the Yuneec Breeze - it's a bit of a sweet spot for a lunchbox drone, incredibly easy to fly, rock solid indoors, comes with a couple of batteries and a pretty decent camera. Like the Dobby though, it's not designed for long flights.
At the moment, it's not about which is the 'best' - they all suit rather different needs, and no-one is producing the 'ultimate drone' that does it all, is small, quiet and produces top quality video.
Edited by Tuna on Thursday 29th September 23:20
Tuna said:
Some early details are coming out of the new crop.
Footage from the Mavic looks pretty poor. It's perhaps more of a racing quad than a camera drone. If you're into FPV this might be the best, but the video is disappointing.
The poor footage seems to be down to user error, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tthf4guYCo if only the vloggers had taken a few minutes to read the instruction manual rather than trying to be the first one to post a video.Footage from the Mavic looks pretty poor. It's perhaps more of a racing quad than a camera drone. If you're into FPV this might be the best, but the video is disappointing.
Wardy. said:
The poor footage seems to be down to user error, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tthf4guYCo if only the vloggers had taken a few minutes to read the instruction manual rather than trying to be the first one to post a video.
That is really odd. Drone cameras usually have an immense depth of field due to the typical scenes they're filming, so I was under the impression it's unusual to have to focus them (at least for the small sensor, fixed lens cameras)? Would love to know the reasoning behind having a focus feature on such a camera when it can be done in the factory.Tuna said:
Wardy. said:
The poor footage seems to be down to user error, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tthf4guYCo if only the vloggers had taken a few minutes to read the instruction manual rather than trying to be the first one to post a video.
That is really odd. Drone cameras usually have an immense depth of field due to the typical scenes they're filming, so I was under the impression it's unusual to have to focus them (at least for the small sensor, fixed lens cameras)? Would love to know the reasoning behind having a focus feature on such a camera when it can be done in the factory.I have mine since yesterday - John Lewis has them in stock with usual two years warranty instead of one.
Battery dies rather quickly but that's nothing new It's in percentage now so more visible.
Raw files are pretty slow to write but I didn't really expect miracles.
Image stabilizing works rather well but I only saw it on tiny screen so can't really comment how it affects video quality.
It did freeze once today and I needed to take the battery out.
I'll be buying a Karma grip for it as soon as it's released, just the grip since I've ordered Mavic Pro.
Ah yeah - selling a housing separately is a con, but £45 for it is a daylight robbery!
Battery dies rather quickly but that's nothing new
It's in percentage now so more visible.Raw files are pretty slow to write but I didn't really expect miracles.
Image stabilizing works rather well but I only saw it on tiny screen so can't really comment how it affects video quality.
It did freeze once today and I needed to take the battery out.
I'll be buying a Karma grip for it as soon as it's released, just the grip since I've ordered Mavic Pro.
Ah yeah - selling a housing separately is a con, but £45 for it is a daylight robbery!
Hi all,
I'm going to buy a camera, mainly for filming from my sports car and I would like good sound as well as picture quality. I will no doubt use the camera for other holiday stuff and possibly cycling as well. I'm thinking of the following spec: Go Pro Hero 4 silver with Skeleton housing, Go Pro Mic adaptor and a ETM 001 Edutige mic. Does that seem OK or is there a better set up? I'm completely new to this stuff, so any advice would be greatly appreciated,
Cheers,
Duncan
I'm going to buy a camera, mainly for filming from my sports car and I would like good sound as well as picture quality. I will no doubt use the camera for other holiday stuff and possibly cycling as well. I'm thinking of the following spec: Go Pro Hero 4 silver with Skeleton housing, Go Pro Mic adaptor and a ETM 001 Edutige mic. Does that seem OK or is there a better set up? I'm completely new to this stuff, so any advice would be greatly appreciated,
Cheers,
Duncan
DuncV8 said:
Hi all,
I'm going to buy a camera, mainly for filming from my sports car and I would like good sound as well as picture quality. I will no doubt use the camera for other holiday stuff and possibly cycling as well. I'm thinking of the following spec: Go Pro Hero 4 silver with Skeleton housing, Go Pro Mic adaptor and a ETM 001 Edutige mic. Does that seem OK or is there a better set up? I'm completely new to this stuff, so any advice would be greatly appreciated,
Cheers,
Duncan
If it wasn't for the external mic needed then I'd suggest the Hero Session is a good alternative. Its half the price and does all the same (useful) resolutions. It also has a singificantly better internal mic setup than the 4 silver, but depends where you are recording whether this is sufficient.I'm going to buy a camera, mainly for filming from my sports car and I would like good sound as well as picture quality. I will no doubt use the camera for other holiday stuff and possibly cycling as well. I'm thinking of the following spec: Go Pro Hero 4 silver with Skeleton housing, Go Pro Mic adaptor and a ETM 001 Edutige mic. Does that seem OK or is there a better set up? I'm completely new to this stuff, so any advice would be greatly appreciated,
Cheers,
Duncan
Order66 said:
If it wasn't for the external mic needed then I'd suggest the Hero Session is a good alternative. Its half the price and does all the same (useful) resolutions. It also has a singificantly better internal mic setup than the 4 silver, but depends where you are recording whether this is sufficient.
I'd say the same. The Session is good for mounting and much underrated. You could consider getting a separate digital recorder to go with your mic and stick it somewhere that'll give you decent sound - all the camera will pick up is wind/cabin noise. It's pretty simple to combine an audio track with videoGassing Station | Photography & Video | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff