Dji Phantom UAVs

[Davie_GLA]

MikeyC said:

another 'drop out' - with great view/pictures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioiVWP47dA

That's a very suspicious vid. The camera just stops working? The camera man at the end doesn't follow it to the ground? No aftermath pictures?

You're seeing a lot of these videos now with people claiming fly aways just to get youtube views.

I call BS....

[14-7]

Davie_GLA said:

That's a very suspicious vid. The camera just stops working? The camera man at the end doesn't follow it to the ground? No aftermath pictures?

You're seeing a lot of these videos now with people claiming fly aways just to get youtube views.

I call BS....

Amazing how he followed it so far but missed the crash itself.....

[Mr Trophy]

I had my first crash tonight (my error) flew into a tree. I've still got butterflies

[MikeyC]

Davie_GLA said:

MikeyC said:

another 'drop out' - with great view/pictures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioiVWP47dA

That's a very suspicious vid. The camera just stops working? The camera man at the end doesn't follow it to the ground? No aftermath pictures?

You're seeing a lot of these videos now with people claiming fly aways just to get youtube views.

I call BS....

the video stops working just before the crash ?
cameras buffer the data before writing to sd card, so in a hard crash typically the last few moments are nearly always lost as it's still in the buffer
seen this many times

as for the ground camera not following it down, I sure know how difficult it is to see what I'm filming on my iPod on a bright day !

not seeing the aftermath ? maybe losing (how may $K's are those Inspires ?) on your 1st flight would make anyone weep

looks genuine 2 me ....

[andrewrob]

MikeyC said:

Davie_GLA said:

MikeyC said:

another 'drop out' - with great view/pictures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioiVWP47dA

That's a very suspicious vid. The camera just stops working? The camera man at the end doesn't follow it to the ground? No aftermath pictures?

You're seeing a lot of these videos now with people claiming fly aways just to get youtube views.

I call BS....

the video stops working just before the crash ?
cameras buffer the data before writing to sd card, so in a hard crash typically the last few moments are nearly always lost as it's still in the buffer
seen this many times

as for the ground camera not following it down, I sure know how difficult it is to see what I'm filming on my iPod on a bright day !

not seeing the aftermath ? maybe losing (how may $K's are those Inspires ?) on your 1st flight would make anyone weep

looks genuine 2 me ....

I think the not following it to the ground would be the cameraman looking at the crash with his own eyes to try to work out where it was going to end up, its what I'd do. You see it all the time with youtube videos where instead of looking through the lens at the point of impact the camera man looks up to see it with their own eyes.

[x5x3]

there are too many suspicious facts on this one, if for example you look at the flight log he posted then it is for a different flight - check the max height.

[GetCarter]

Dronegate!

[GetCarter]

So… I went 3DR… we shall see how much sea I see. Hopefully from above and not below. Thanks for the help.

[jon-]

So I have a film project coming up where I'm hiring a cameraman and I need some aerial shots, so I'm thinking of buying a Phantom 3 and flying it.

The camera guy I'm chatting to is refusing to use it as he believes a licence is needed regardless of height, location etc. I'm not so sure, but I'm getting really confused reading between the US and UK forums about what rules apply to what company.

Is there a good link anywhere explaining it for the UK?

Thanks

[GetCarter]

jon- said:

So I have a film project coming up where I'm hiring a cameraman and I need some aerial shots, so I'm thinking of buying a Phantom 3 and flying it.

The camera guy I'm chatting to is refusing to use it as he believes a licence is needed regardless of height, location etc. I'm not so sure, but I'm getting really confused reading between the US and UK forums about what rules apply to what company.

Is there a good link anywhere explaining it for the UK?

Thanks

https://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=1995

[Mr Trophy]

First video, pretty happy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEBvS4OIXwA

[V8A*ndy]

looking for a mini (toy) drone for the Nephew...

Any recommendations, cheap and relatively robust. He's 11.

[x5x3]

easy - Hubsan X4 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/HUBSAN-X4-H107-Quadcopter-... or http://www.banggood.com/New-Version-Upgraded-Hubsa...

just make sure you get mode 2 - left hand throttle

[Mojocvh]

Boatbuoy said:

Druid said:

Jut received this on an email...ooh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vGcH0Bk3hg

....which would be virtually impossible to operate in the UK within the scope of the current regulations (IMO).

Wow. What a bit of kit.

Campaign Against Aviation??

[HoHoHo]

Mr Trophy said:

First video, pretty happy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEBvS4OIXwA

That's very good

Can you please explain in a few words.....

How they manage to get such stable images?

How do you change the camera view whilst in the air?

Do you fly by eye or using a viewfinder?

How long does the battery last?

What's the range?

Ta

[DIW35]

The camera is typically mounted on a gimbal that keeps the camera stable

Left and right view is controlled by turning the craft. Tilt up and down is handled by the gimbal

Flying by eye is possible, but to get the best results and to see what you are filming whilst actually filming it, you need a First Person View (FPV) system. This uses a small video transmitter on the craft which is viewed either through head mounted goggles or via a screen usually mounted on the controller.

Battery life is typically between 15 and 20 minutes

Some people make changes to the antennas so that they can be used a few km away. The law in the UK is that they should be flown in line of sight. Personally I am not happy flying mine if I can't actually see it because if the video link fails you are pretty much depending on the built in return to home function to get your drone back safely.

[HoHoHo]

DIW35 said:

The camera is typically mounted on a gimbal that keeps the camera stable

Left and right view is controlled by turning the craft. Tilt up and down is handled by the gimbal

Flying by eye is possible, but to get the best results and to see what you are filming whilst actually filming it, you need a First Person View (FPV) system. This uses a small video transmitter on the craft which is viewed either through head mounted goggles or via a screen usually mounted on the controller.

Battery life is typically between 15 and 20 minutes

Some people make changes to the antennas so that they can be used a few km away. The law in the UK is that they should be flown in line of sight. Personally I am not happy flying mine if I can't actually see it because if the video link fails you are pretty much depending on the built in return to home function to get your drone back safely.

Thanks for your reply

I currently own what would be considered a smaller toy drone (with FPV) but find it almost impossible to control through the viewfinder - so I'm guessing these bigger more stable drones are not only easier to fly but also have gyros on them? Also as the camera footage is extremely stable that's also got some clever trickery working in the background?

I'm tempted to have a go but I'm not really sure after a couple of shots of the house or dog down the park what use I'd find for it (not that 'use' has ever stopped me form buying anything in the past )

Clearly as per model aircraft like of sight is the law, how long though before these grow and soon we'll have 1m wide UAV's with god knows what technology driving them and then we're talking a long distance away from the operator and yet still in the line of sight

[DIW35]

I too have one of the 'toy' drones with FPV, and it is completely different to fly when compared to the bigger version. Far less stable and impossible to fly just using the FPV.

[5150]

jon- said:

So I have a film project coming up where I'm hiring a cameraman and I need some aerial shots, so I'm thinking of buying a Phantom 3 and flying it.

The camera guy I'm chatting to is refusing to use it as he believes a licence is needed regardless of height, location etc. I'm not so sure, but I'm getting really confused reading between the US and UK forums about what rules apply to what company.

Is there a good link anywhere explaining it for the UK?

Thanks

That's right.

In order to use images taken from a UAV for commercial gain, you need a Permit for Aerial Work from the Civil Aviation Authority. A fairly lengthy process, but it's the only way you can do it (apart from hiring someone with a permit!)

[Mr Trophy]

5150 said:

jon- said:

So I have a film project coming up where I'm hiring a cameraman and I need some aerial shots, so I'm thinking of buying a Phantom 3 and flying it.

The camera guy I'm chatting to is refusing to use it as he believes a licence is needed regardless of height, location etc. I'm not so sure, but I'm getting really confused reading between the US and UK forums about what rules apply to what company.

Is there a good link anywhere explaining it for the UK?

Thanks

That's right.

In order to use images taken from a UAV for commercial gain, you need a Permit for Aerial Work from the Civil Aviation Authority. A fairly lengthy process, but it's the only way you can do it (apart from hiring someone with a permit!)

Excuse my ignorance here. Could you not just buy one and do it yourself?

The only way this would perhaps come a problem is if you where stopped and questioned by someone? Once the "project" is together it surely wouldn't matter who's filmed it (you don't need to declare something do you)?