Dji Phantom UAVs
Discussion
V8A*ndy said:
My sister lives in a very remote area and the BBC had a drone doing some filming. It was around ten feet from her house and about eight feet of the ground (there is a small clearing beside her house that they used for take off and landing).
She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
In addition she could have said, "My husband has a 12 gauge…"She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
If it was so remote why were they so close to her house? Talk of a shot gun would have given him good incentive to fly elsewhere.
No Bend said:
V8A*ndy said:
My sister lives in a very remote area and the BBC had a drone doing some filming. It was around ten feet from her house and about eight feet of the ground (there is a small clearing beside her house that they used for take off and landing).
She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
In addition she could have said, "My husband has a 12 gauge…"She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
If it was so remote why were they so close to her house? Talk of a shot gun would have given him good incentive to fly elsewhere.
With all these things, if you use common sense all should be fine. Unfortunately there are always people who don't care and think they know better and will give Drone flyers a bad name - when I have been flying I have not had one person complain - anyone who comes along will ignore it or they are really interested and want to know about it.
Emeye said:
No Bend said:
V8A*ndy said:
My sister lives in a very remote area and the BBC had a drone doing some filming. It was around ten feet from her house and about eight feet of the ground (there is a small clearing beside her house that they used for take off and landing).
She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
In addition she could have said, "My husband has a 12 gauge…"She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
If it was so remote why were they so close to her house? Talk of a shot gun would have given him good incentive to fly elsewhere.
With all these things, if you use common sense all should be fine. Unfortunately there are always people who don't care and think they know better and will give Drone flyers a bad name - when I have been flying I have not had one person complain - anyone who comes along will ignore it or they are really interested and want to know about it.
The operator near V8 andy's sister's place could have been operating legally if he had a CAOSC approved for a much smaller distance, although that does sound very close.
andrewrob said:
Emeye said:
No Bend said:
V8A*ndy said:
My sister lives in a very remote area and the BBC had a drone doing some filming. It was around ten feet from her house and about eight feet of the ground (there is a small clearing beside her house that they used for take off and landing).
She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
In addition she could have said, "My husband has a 12 gauge…"She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
If it was so remote why were they so close to her house? Talk of a shot gun would have given him good incentive to fly elsewhere.
With all these things, if you use common sense all should be fine. Unfortunately there are always people who don't care and think they know better and will give Drone flyers a bad name - when I have been flying I have not had one person complain - anyone who comes along will ignore it or they are really interested and want to know about it.
The operator near V8 andy's sister's place could have been operating legally if he had a CAOSC approved for a much smaller distance, although that does sound very close.
Emeye said:
andrewrob said:
Emeye said:
No Bend said:
V8A*ndy said:
My sister lives in a very remote area and the BBC had a drone doing some filming. It was around ten feet from her house and about eight feet of the ground (there is a small clearing beside her house that they used for take off and landing).
She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
In addition she could have said, "My husband has a 12 gauge…"She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
If it was so remote why were they so close to her house? Talk of a shot gun would have given him good incentive to fly elsewhere.
With all these things, if you use common sense all should be fine. Unfortunately there are always people who don't care and think they know better and will give Drone flyers a bad name - when I have been flying I have not had one person complain - anyone who comes along will ignore it or they are really interested and want to know about it.
The operator near V8 andy's sister's place could have been operating legally if he had a CAOSC approved for a much smaller distance, although that does sound very close.
The other thing that's worth noting is that the 50m in congested areas for the sub 7kg only comes in once you have your permission for aerial work before that its still 150m.
Also worth remembering that you can't overfly people, buildings, or vehicles outside of your control at any height too.
Hope that makes sense, I'm not always the best at explaining stuff!
andrewrob said:
Emeye said:
andrewrob said:
Emeye said:
No Bend said:
V8A*ndy said:
My sister lives in a very remote area and the BBC had a drone doing some filming. It was around ten feet from her house and about eight feet of the ground (there is a small clearing beside her house that they used for take off and landing).
She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
In addition she could have said, "My husband has a 12 gauge…"She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
If it was so remote why were they so close to her house? Talk of a shot gun would have given him good incentive to fly elsewhere.
With all these things, if you use common sense all should be fine. Unfortunately there are always people who don't care and think they know better and will give Drone flyers a bad name - when I have been flying I have not had one person complain - anyone who comes along will ignore it or they are really interested and want to know about it.
The operator near V8 andy's sister's place could have been operating legally if he had a CAOSC approved for a much smaller distance, although that does sound very close.
The other thing that's worth noting is that the 50m in congested areas for the sub 7kg only comes in once you have your permission for aerial work before that its still 150m.
Also worth remembering that you can't overfly people, buildings, or vehicles outside of your control at any height too.
Hope that makes sense, I'm not always the best at explaining stuff!
The definition of a congested area is also a bit vague, and an area that is classed as congested at a certain time of the day could possibly be classed as not congested at another time of the day. i.e. Industrial estate at 9am on a weekday til 8pm in a congested area, but at 6am Sunday morning if all the businesses are shut it would not be a congested area.
Do you have your Permission for Aerial Work?
Emeye said:
andrewrob said:
Emeye said:
andrewrob said:
Emeye said:
No Bend said:
V8A*ndy said:
My sister lives in a very remote area and the BBC had a drone doing some filming. It was around ten feet from her house and about eight feet of the ground (there is a small clearing beside her house that they used for take off and landing).
She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
In addition she could have said, "My husband has a 12 gauge…"She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
If it was so remote why were they so close to her house? Talk of a shot gun would have given him good incentive to fly elsewhere.
With all these things, if you use common sense all should be fine. Unfortunately there are always people who don't care and think they know better and will give Drone flyers a bad name - when I have been flying I have not had one person complain - anyone who comes along will ignore it or they are really interested and want to know about it.
The operator near V8 andy's sister's place could have been operating legally if he had a CAOSC approved for a much smaller distance, although that does sound very close.
The other thing that's worth noting is that the 50m in congested areas for the sub 7kg only comes in once you have your permission for aerial work before that its still 150m.
Also worth remembering that you can't overfly people, buildings, or vehicles outside of your control at any height too.
Hope that makes sense, I'm not always the best at explaining stuff!
The definition of a congested area is also a bit vague, and an area that is classed as congested at a certain time of the day could possibly be classed as not congested at another time of the day. i.e. Industrial estate at 9am on a weekday til 8pm in a congested area, but at 6am Sunday morning if all the businesses are shut it would not be a congested area.
Do you have your Permission for Aerial Work?
There's certainly a lot more people doing it now but there's still plenty of business around.
One reason I built a sub 7kg one was so the whole congested area thing was never an issue, for me its 50m regardless, unless its a crowd of over 1000 then I'm at 150m. There's one company that submitted a CAOSC and got approved at something like 10m from crowds of over 1000!
leggly said:
I passed the Ground School exam today, well chuffed.
Well done 
Thanks for the replies on this chaps much appreciated. I really want to do this but it's more from the hobby side of things as I've already stated I've a bit of a disability.
Another question discussion point.
What is the proper definition of a congested area and what about night flying?
A recent BBC programme House of Cars featured lots of boring drone footage and although it was filmed over private ground it was certainly filmed very close to one of the busiest roads, shopping and industrial areas in Belfast.
Also they filmed at night. Can this be done with special permission?
No Bend said:
V8A*ndy said:
My sister lives in a very remote area and the BBC had a drone doing some filming. It was around ten feet from her house and about eight feet of the ground (there is a small clearing beside her house that they used for take off and landing).
She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
In addition she could have said, "My husband has a 12 gauge…"She complained and the operator told her that as he was qualified he was able to fly so close and it was all above board.
he went a bit sheepish when she told him "my brother flys them and my brother says the law is 50 meters.".
If it was so remote why were they so close to her house? Talk of a shot gun would have given him good incentive to fly elsewhere.
A small clearing beside the house is perfect. I've used it myself.
V8A*ndy said:
leggly said:
I passed the Ground School exam today, well chuffed.
Well done Thanks for the replies on this chaps much appreciated. I really want to do this but it's more from the hobby side of things as I've already stated I've a bit of a disability.
Another question discussion point.
What is the proper definition of a congested area and what about night flying?
A recent BBC programme House of Cars featured lots of boring drone footage and although it was filmed over private ground it was certainly filmed very close to one of the busiest roads, shopping and industrial areas in Belfast.
Also they filmed at night. Can this be done with special permission?
"The Air Navigation Order defines a congested area as being 'any area of a city, town or settlement which is substantially used for residential, industrial, commercial or recreational purposes' Permission must be obtained from the CAA to land or operate within a congested area."
But if you're under 7kg like I said above its 50m regardless so you never really have to worry about that. *ETA Its 150m until you get your permission for aerial work even if under 7kg*
You may find that the company doing the BBC filming have applied for a COASC and reduced the 50m down to something a lot more manageable, or spoken to all of the building owners/people (a bit trickier).
Night flying is another request to the CAA, from what I've heard you're unlikely to get it in your first year of having a licence anyway, and am unsure weather its worth bothering depending what you normally film.
With a normal PFAW you're allowed to film half an hour before sunrise and half an hour after sunset from memory, or maybe they use the wording dawn and dusk, but you get the idea.
For night flying safety case you have to have a white strobe on your drone, and then other things to reduce risk like maybe flying 200m radius rather than 500, and even having a big torch to illuminate the drone if your lights fail, or illuminate the landing area.
V8A*ndy said:
leggly said:
I passed the Ground School exam today, well chuffed.
Well done Thanks for the replies on this chaps much appreciated. I really want to do this but it's more from the hobby side of things as I've already stated I've a bit of a disability.
Another question discussion point.
What is the proper definition of a congested area and what about night flying?
A recent BBC programme House of Cars featured lots of boring drone footage and although it was filmed over private ground it was certainly filmed very close to one of the busiest roads, shopping and industrial areas in Belfast.
Also they filmed at night. Can this be done with special permission?
jimbouk said:
Leggly
Congratulations on passing the exam, I'm probably looking to go down the official route soon.
I see you are in Gloucestershire, as am I, may I ask where you did you training / exam?
Seems to be a choice of two local providers, one at Kemble airfield and one at Bristol...
I'm doing it through the Resource Group. The ground school was in Southampton near Leamington Spa. The flying will hopefully be done near Kemble. Congratulations on passing the exam, I'm probably looking to go down the official route soon.
I see you are in Gloucestershire, as am I, may I ask where you did you training / exam?
Seems to be a choice of two local providers, one at Kemble airfield and one at Bristol...
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