So New, So Old: Df anyone?
Discussion
No doubt many people buy Leicas because they say 'Leica' on the front, rather than any particular technical feature. These days the image quality of cameras is basically so good that they have to sell by other means - sexy badge, sexy case etc.
For 20 years anything with 'digital' on it was a must-have. Then 'retro' came along. Add them together and you have a sure winner...
I'm going to invent a digital retro eco camera...
For 20 years anything with 'digital' on it was a must-have. Then 'retro' came along. Add them together and you have a sure winner...
I'm going to invent a digital retro eco camera...
Janesy B said:
1/4000 max shutter speed, that won't help anyone wanted to use a fast prime wide open in bright sunlight. Seems like a bit of an omission given the price tag.
Meh, when I started the max s/s was 1/1000th. But we woz 'appy. Stick an ND on it...K12beano said:
flat-planedCrank said:
They added a dial for iso but not for aperture?
Probably would prefer that the other way around
Modern Nikons allow you to use the aperture ring! Probably would prefer that the other way around
First setting I set on my current body!
K12beano said:
flat-planedCrank said:
They added a dial for iso but not for aperture?
Probably would prefer that the other way around
Modern Nikons allow you to use the aperture ring! Probably would prefer that the other way around
First setting I set on my current body!
The new fifty is just the normal fifty in drag. No aperture selection.
It's all faux crap. You can't even change the focus screen to a split prism one. The dials are a pain and the shutter speed one isn't even right in most modes
No custom modes either
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It'll take a decent photo but the pure photography tag line is marketing bulls
t.
It's all faux crap. You can't even change the focus screen to a split prism one. The dials are a pain and the shutter speed one isn't even right in most modes
No custom modes either
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It'll take a decent photo but the pure photography tag line is marketing bulls
t. Compared to the Fuji it's big but I don't think that's who they're targeting. Sure the Fuji is a very competent camera but its sensor is no D4 rival, and neither do the specs compare in many other areas.
Interesting to note this is actually smaller than a D610. I handled a 610 at PhotoLive last weekend and was amazed how small it was. I genuinely thought it was a 3200 or 5300 or one of the straightforward consumer models when I picked it up. It was only when I noticed the ISO had already been dialled in to some insanely high value that I started to question what body it was. So. in terms of size the Df is not going to be horrendous - choose the right lens (there'll be many possibilities given the Df's backwards compatibility) and the Df will be very portable.
I'm not in a position to replace my D700 but if I was this makes a good attempt at ticking all the boxes in terms of spec. I'd love the high-ISO capability of the D4 sensor without needing its frame rate; I'd also be happy to take its 16mp files rather than the storage- and processor-hungry 24mp or 36mp files from the D610/ D800. Quite taken by the styling, too, although the MASP button would be welded to M and I wonder how long it would be before the top LCD succumbed to some duct tape in order to conceal its hideousness.
Interesting to note this is actually smaller than a D610. I handled a 610 at PhotoLive last weekend and was amazed how small it was. I genuinely thought it was a 3200 or 5300 or one of the straightforward consumer models when I picked it up. It was only when I noticed the ISO had already been dialled in to some insanely high value that I started to question what body it was. So. in terms of size the Df is not going to be horrendous - choose the right lens (there'll be many possibilities given the Df's backwards compatibility) and the Df will be very portable.
I'm not in a position to replace my D700 but if I was this makes a good attempt at ticking all the boxes in terms of spec. I'd love the high-ISO capability of the D4 sensor without needing its frame rate; I'd also be happy to take its 16mp files rather than the storage- and processor-hungry 24mp or 36mp files from the D610/ D800. Quite taken by the styling, too, although the MASP button would be welded to M and I wonder how long it would be before the top LCD succumbed to some duct tape in order to conceal its hideousness.
Is this to help Nikon bring out a more desirable Df2 ?
https://webc.nikonimaging.com/form/pub/info/df_en
https://webc.nikonimaging.com/form/pub/info/df_en
i can't quite get my head around the nikon df. yes it looks nice in the pictures, but it does seem quite bulky. if you want an old school style camera, just buy an old camera.
there are bargains to be had. i managed to pick up an olympus om-2n in the summer for £30 including 3 zuiko lenses, bags, strap and even some old film... heres a picture of one:
there are bargains to be had. i managed to pick up an olympus om-2n in the summer for £30 including 3 zuiko lenses, bags, strap and even some old film... heres a picture of one:
Edited by shielsy on Wednesday 6th November 09:57
shielsy said:
i can't quite get my head around the nikon df. yes it looks nice in the pictures, but it does seem quite bulky. if you want an old school style camera, just buy an old camera.
there are bargains to be had. i managed to pick up an olympus om-2n in the summer for £30 including 3 zuiko lenses, bags, strap and even some old film... heres a picture of one:
I did 20 years of film. Could never go back now full frame sensors deliver resuts as good as 35mm. I know others can and do, but not me. Apart from anything else I now take over 7000 shots a year. I'm not even going to try and calculate how much that would cost in film and developing costs! Yes, I could (and would take fewer frames), but I'm now so used to being unconstrained by limitations of film and development, it'd be a pain to go back.there are bargains to be had. i managed to pick up an olympus om-2n in the summer for £30 including 3 zuiko lenses, bags, strap and even some old film... heres a picture of one:
Edited by shielsy on Wednesday 6th November 09:57
Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 6th November 11:31
GetCarter said:
shielsy said:
i can't quite get my head around the nikon df. yes it looks nice in the pictures, but it does seem quite bulky. if you want an old school style camera, just buy an old camera.
there are bargains to be had. i managed to pick up an olympus om-2n in the summer for £30 including 3 zuiko lenses, bags, strap and even some old film... heres a picture of one:
I did 20 years of film. Could never go back now full frame sensors deliver resuts as good as 35mm. I know others can and do, but not me. Apart from anything else I now take over 7000 shots a year. I'm not even going to try and calculate how much that would cost in film and developing costs! Yes, I could (and would take fewer frames), but I'm now so used to being unconstrained by limitations of film and development, it'd be a pain to go back.there are bargains to be had. i managed to pick up an olympus om-2n in the summer for £30 including 3 zuiko lenses, bags, strap and even some old film... heres a picture of one:
Yuck!!! That thing is hideous!
I'd rather like a decent DSLR body with manual dials for shutter speed, aperture & ISO, so that I don't have to keep looking at the screen to see what settings I've got, but why did they have to go and put it in such a nasty, kitsch, dated-looking body?
Surely they could put the manual dials on a modern, ergonomically designed body, without reverting to retro-crap just to justify having them?
I'd rather like a decent DSLR body with manual dials for shutter speed, aperture & ISO, so that I don't have to keep looking at the screen to see what settings I've got, but why did they have to go and put it in such a nasty, kitsch, dated-looking body?
Surely they could put the manual dials on a modern, ergonomically designed body, without reverting to retro-crap just to justify having them?
Kermit power said:
why did they have to go and put it in such a nasty, kitsch, dated-looking body?
I think you had to be there at the time. 
Us old folk prefer buttons to menus... the more buttons we have the more we get back to how we took photos in the past (i.e. having to work it out rather than someone in Japan doing it for us 3 years before we took the photo).If I buy this camera, I'll still probably use the pro Nikon kit I have more, but I'll probably enjoy this - faff though it is - more.
...and it's the D4 sensor that makes this really sexy, not the buttons!
Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 6th November 14:52
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