No Canon 7D2 thread?

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nellyleelephant

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234 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Well, no one else is going to do it, so I will!

Canon have finally announced the replacement for the 7D, and with 10fps, a much improved focus system and supposedly better high ISO (over the 7D) It's looking mighty tempting. Lower RRP than I thought it would be too.

http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cam...

Mini1275

11,098 posts

182 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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I pre-ordered one earlier, can't wait! biggrin. It certainly sounds impressive.

Upgrading from a 450D so it should be a bit of an improvement!.

nellyleelephant

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234 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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I'm planning on chopping in a 1D3 for one, It will sit nicely next to my 5D3.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

182 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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If anybody is ordering from Jessops, ' CAMERA5 ' gets 5% off.

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toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Unless you are a really hardcore sports shooter, I don't see the point of it really.

I suspect many buyers don't really need 10fps with amazingly complex AF to take pictures of their mum or kids at Disneyland.

For most people, a 70d and better glass would be a much more logical choice.


Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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toppstuff said:
Unless you are a really hardcore sports shooter, I don't see the point of it really.

I suspect many buyers don't really need 10fps with amazingly complex AF to take pictures of their mum or kids at Disneyland.

For most people, a 70d and better glass would be a much more logical choice.
Yup, won't stop many people though tongue out

nellyleelephant

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234 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Main interest for me is longer reach over my 5d3 with longer lenses, should be better for birds.

sa_20v

4,108 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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toppstuff said:
For most people, a 70d and better glass would be a much more logical choice.
I agree, I waited for the new camera (currently have a 450d) but will likely go 70d now. There is talk of a 80d but I can't wait any longer! biggrin

Turn7

23,604 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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sa_20v said:
I agree, I waited for the new camera (currently have a 450d) but will likely go 70d now. There is talk of a 80d but I can't wait any longer! biggrin
Wait...what...

Your not holding out for the 85D ? Its going to be a huuuuge leap.....



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sa_20v

4,108 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Turn7 said:
Wait...what...

Your not holding out for the 85D ? Its going to be a huuuuge leap.....;)
Maybe! hehe


JohneeBoy

503 posts

175 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Janesy B said:
toppstuff said:
Unless you are a really hardcore sports shooter, I don't see the point of it really.

I suspect many buyers don't really need 10fps with amazingly complex AF to take pictures of their mum or kids at Disneyland.

For most people, a 70d and better glass would be a much more logical choice.
Yup, won't stop many people though tongue out
I'm keen to read some reviews and comparisons before making my decision. I want to upgrade from my old 550D as I want better low light performance, focusing and shooting speed (3.7 is hopeless for motorsports). The 70D would be adequate but the 7D2 seems to have that bit extra, based on the specs at least. The question for me is whether or not the extra 3FPS and whatever else is worth the extra pennies.

Fubles

394 posts

181 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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is there a reason why they haven't added the articulated screen to the 7dII? I get maybe not having the touch screen but the swivel screen on the 60d is really handy especially for shooting video and not getting nose prints all over the screen.

Also is it just me who thinks that the photo they've used to advertise the HDR actually looks better with the HDR off?

mids

1,505 posts

258 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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I'm looking to upgrade my ageing micro four-thirds setup and the 7D2 is a big contender as I've found myself using my camera more when I go out to nature reserves at the weekend than anything else. I'm just not sure about the size compared to what I'm used to so I've just borrowed my brother's 5D2 with his 100-400 and 70-200 to see how I get on with it. Also in contention are the E-M1, X-T1, NX1 & A7 but liking the spec of this 7D2. Main negatives (to me at least) seem to be no wifi, no 4K and no touch-screen control.

sa_20v

4,108 posts

231 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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mids said:
no 4K
I've seen a few comments about lack of 4k support on Canon's range. Can someone explain why it's so important?


nellyleelephant

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Friday 19th September 2014
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sa_20v said:
I've seen a few comments about lack of 4k support on Canon's range. Can someone explain why it's so important?
It does exist in their range....you just have to spend a lot of cash!
I personally have no interest in 4k, but I can see why people might be peeved if they want to shoot video. There seem to be a few csc bodies that offer it.

mids

1,505 posts

258 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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sa_20v said:
I've seen a few comments about lack of 4k support on Canon's range. Can someone explain why it's so important?
I'm not one to swap camera equipment regularly (my current kit is over 4 years old) so, whilst I haven't got a 4K TV and probably no big use for it at the moment, I'd like to have it for the future.

Also, I quite fancy messing on with capturing stills from the 4K video as the fast frame rate should (in theory) help with capturing interesting shots that you might miss with the usual AF-C. You can increase the shutter speeds to help with this which screws up with how the video looks but if you're after stills that doesn't matter. Obviously focusing is going to be difficult but I've seen some decent results from the GH4 (easily googled).

I'm probably going to get shot down in flames now which is usually what happens when I try post anything half-technical in this section of PH hehe

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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mids said:
sa_20v said:
I've seen a few comments about lack of 4k support on Canon's range. Can someone explain why it's so important?
I'm not one to swap camera equipment regularly (my current kit is over 4 years old) so, whilst I haven't got a 4K TV and probably no big use for it at the moment, I'd like to have it for the future.

Also, I quite fancy messing on with capturing stills from the 4K video as the fast frame rate should (in theory) help with capturing interesting shots that you might miss with the usual AF-C. You can increase the shutter speeds to help with this which screws up with how the video looks but if you're after stills that doesn't matter. Obviously focusing is going to be difficult but I've seen some decent results from the GH4 (easily googled).

I'm probably going to get shot down in flames now which is usually what happens when I try post anything half-technical in this section of PH hehe
Actually, I think you are right.

The Panasonic GH4 can take stills from 4k video. They are only about 8mp I think equivalent, but that is plenty for a decent print or viewing on an iPad and they look clean and colourful. It is an interesting development and surely the future of photography. Canon could do it but they choose not to, which I think is a shame.

It isn't hard to imagine a time where 10 fps on a 7D2 is irrelevant and all you need to do is shoot live video and pick the stills you want from a video. This is probably only a few years away.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

206 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Fubles said:
is there a reason why they haven't added the articulated screen to the 7dII? I get maybe not having the touch screen but the swivel screen on the 60d is really handy especially for shooting video and not getting nose prints all over the screen.
Robustness mainly. The 70D is the one designed for video and pro-sumer use, the 7D is much more action/sports orientated and a flippy screen would have made it less suitable for that.

That's the reason I've heard anyway!

jurbie

2,343 posts

201 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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toppstuff said:
Actually, I think you are right.

The Panasonic GH4 can take stills from 4k video. They are only about 8mp I think equivalent, but that is plenty for a decent print or viewing on an iPad and they look clean and colourful. It is an interesting development and surely the future of photography. Canon could do it but they choose not to, which I think is a shame.

It isn't hard to imagine a time where 10 fps on a 7D2 is irrelevant and all you need to do is shoot live video and pick the stills you want from a video. This is probably only a few years away.
It perhaps deserves a thread of its own rather than derailing this one but the front cover of this months Amateur Photographer magazine is a a still from a 4k video shot on a GH4.

http://petapixel.com/2014/09/11/amateur-photograph...

Pupp

12,222 posts

272 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Isn't this supposed to be the trigger for Nikon to (finally) unveil their D400/D9300 replacement for the D300?