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Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

150 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Thanks for the kind words, guys. To be honest, I could probably make do with an idiot-proof point and click. I soooooo don't understand all the bells and whistles. And just when I think I'm getting the hang of it, I take a whole days' worth of over-exposed, out-of-focus crap and think "I wish I knew what the hell I'm doing" confused

Like, I can see a photo in my head, but how to get it translated into ISO ratings or aperture or elapsed time... It's all Greek to me hehe

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Given this is a thread dedicated to B&W the following suggestion may seems a little unusual but ...

www.cambridgeincolour.com

is a very useful resource library where you can pick up the question of the moment and find well illustrated answers.

To a greater extent than we may realise understanding how how colour can be changed to B&W for best effect (according to your purpose) is quite important and is covered on the site along with the things that will influence the camera settings that you will choose to use to capture the image you have in your mind.

Not a few well regarded photographers have admitted that they didn't or don't really have a wide range of skills and technical knowledge about photography but had found a few settings that got them what they wanted and worked with those, mostly, for entire careers. There is space for both artist and technician in the hobby.

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Ferrari F430 by Dan J, on Flickr

Porsche Carrera 911 by Dan J, on Flickr

Ferrari 308 GTB by Dan J, on Flickr

Tide Monochrome by Dan J, on Flickr

Edited by danllama on Tuesday 26th January 19:17

Bring on the clowns

1,339 posts

184 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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LongQ said:
Given this is a thread dedicated to B&W the following suggestion may seems a little unusual but ...

www.cambridgeincolour.com

is a very useful resource library where you can pick up the question of the moment and find well illustrated answers.

To a greater extent than we may realise understanding how how colour can be changed to B&W for best effect (according to your purpose) is quite important and is covered on the site along with the things that will influence the camera settings that you will choose to use to capture the image you have in your mind.

Not a few well regarded photographers have admitted that they didn't or don't really have a wide range of skills and technical knowledge about photography but had found a few settings that got them what they wanted and worked with those, mostly, for entire careers. There is space for both artist and technician in the hobby.
Good call! For older Luddites like me, and those of us still shooting with film, understanding how colour affects various BW films is vital,and what filters to use, and can be a big help in knowing roughly what effect manipulating the luminance and saturation sliders will bring when converting a colour original to monochrome, which programs even so good as Silver FX rarely get right first time.

noell35

3,170 posts

148 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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One from Bradwell-on-Sea at the weekend
Bradwell-on-Sea by northernladgonesouth, on Flickr

beancaker

616 posts

273 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Untitled by Nigel, on Flickr

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Bring on the clowns said:
LongQ said:
Given this is a thread dedicated to B&W the following suggestion may seems a little unusual but ...

www.cambridgeincolour.com

is a very useful resource library where you can pick up the question of the moment and find well illustrated answers.

To a greater extent than we may realise understanding how how colour can be changed to B&W for best effect (according to your purpose) is quite important and is covered on the site along with the things that will influence the camera settings that you will choose to use to capture the image you have in your mind.

Not a few well regarded photographers have admitted that they didn't or don't really have a wide range of skills and technical knowledge about photography but had found a few settings that got them what they wanted and worked with those, mostly, for entire careers. There is space for both artist and technician in the hobby.
Good call! For older Luddites like me, and those of us still shooting with film, understanding how colour affects various BW films is vital,and what filters to use, and can be a big help in knowing roughly what effect manipulating the luminance and saturation sliders will bring when converting a colour original to monochrome, which programs even so good as Silver FX rarely get right first time.
Film. Hmm. Never did go back and finish up the stock I have.

Apparently the supplier (Fuji) is about to ramp up the price significantly to try and break even on the film side. Use is 1% of what it was before digital took off.

For those looking for post processing fun in addition to the aforementioned plug-in if anyone has Capture One (or access to it as a recent Sony convert) the Pro version has some very powerful yet simple to use B&W facilities.

For a free option you could try LightZone, originally a commercial product but now open source and available for Windows, Mac and Linux (the latter for those who like to get their hands dirty.) Remarkable amounts of control for everything and has long been considered a great option for B&W work.

http://lightzoneproject.org/Forum

Register and use the links for the downloads on the Left side. Skip the torrents - the latest direct downloads are better options.

As it's free it has to be worth a play ....

Bring on the clowns

1,339 posts

184 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Sadly, that doesn't surprise me, about Fuji. I'm okay though as I bought up pretty much all the 4"x5" ready load film I could find on the web, and plenty of roll film, so have enough to last me years. No room in the fridge or freezer for food though, bar the odd pizza and a block of cheese!

There are some really interesting film choices out there now from specialist suppliers including Agfa Scala bw slide film and the Kodak movie films including a lovely bw version. As for software, I have Silver FX but forget to use it much a Lightroom can do so much with the luminosity, saturation and duotone sliders.

Tom911

692 posts

163 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Disastrous

10,080 posts

217 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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The OH and the dog, taken from my board (and significantly further offshore than I remember us being!) whilst trying not to drop the camera:


Cainey

20 posts

103 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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karma mechanic

728 posts

122 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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A couple from last week:








Old steam winch machinery at the Coal Wharf (Cais do Carvão) in Funchal, Madeira.

Rust never sleeps.



Edited by karma mechanic on Thursday 28th January 22:23

Zerotonine

1,171 posts

174 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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More sepia than black and white but here is one of my amateur efforts...

dudleybloke

19,815 posts

186 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Not bad for off a phone.







Edited by dudleybloke on Friday 29th January 20:02

realjv

1,114 posts

166 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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A quiet downtown Indianapolis on 500 Festival Parade day.


Meridian and Washington by realjv, on Flickr

Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

144 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Downloaded a free photo stitching program, Hugin. Quite impressed as the constituent photos were taken handheld.


Edinburgh Pano by Ryan G, on Flickr

DibblyDobbler

11,271 posts

197 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Gilhooligan said:
Downloaded a free photo stitching program, Hugin. Quite impressed as the constituent photos were taken handheld.


Edinburgh Pano by Ryan G, on Flickr
Nice work Ryan! From Calton Hill I presume? smile

dudleybloke

19,815 posts

186 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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Taken today.




Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

144 months

Saturday 30th January 2016
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DibblyDobbler said:
Gilhooligan said:
Downloaded a free photo stitching program, Hugin. Quite impressed as the constituent photos were taken handheld.


Edinburgh Pano by Ryan G, on Flickr
Nice work Ryan! From Calton Hill I presume? smile
Cheers DD. Aye, right on the corner around the back of the old observatory. Probably the most over done photo location in Edinburgh haha.