New Mac Photo App.

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durbster

10,284 posts

223 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Leithen said:
Really? The reviewer is well regarded in the mac community, has been using developer releases and betas of the software for some time and presents pro's and cons and a bottom line. Reads like a review to me.

She seems to like it overall, which of course if you don't agree, might be an issue.... wink

I haven't tried it yet in anger and I'm unsure as to whether I want to go down the iCloud Library route either. So no conclusions for me yet.
I don't know the reviewer or the website but I am always a bit skeptical of early reviews considering how they treat authors of critical reviews (see The Register and Computer Bild).

There's a few exclusive reviews of the Apple Watch I've read recently which are similar in tone to this and I'm not convinced by them either. Much of the press is advertorial content even if it says "review" at the top smile

qube_TA

8,402 posts

246 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Leithen said:
qube_TA said:
Maybe (as seems to be the current Apple way) they'll improve it over time to give back the functionality that was lost.
Have you tried Command-Option-S (from the above review)?
Yeah, found the editing tools now, that's good.

The only real bugbear I have now is not being able to list albums in chronological order. I can list all photos but then I can't label the event it just states where and when the picture(s) were taken. Also I can't drag photos into the app only import them from a camera, could before.





Leithen

10,928 posts

268 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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durbster said:
I don't know the reviewer or the website but I am always a bit skeptical of early reviews considering how they treat authors of critical reviews (see The Register and Computer Bild).

There's a few exclusive reviews of the Apple Watch I've read recently which are similar in tone to this and I'm not convinced by them either. Much of the press is advertorial content even if it says "review" at the top smile
I think the difference here is that the new App has been in beta for a while and available for all, rather than it being a hardware restricted review unit.

They certainly cherry pick their chosen reviewers, but several aren't overly sycophantic. El Reg doesn't do itself any favours - it's been so caustically wrong about Apple for so many years that their complaints about not receiving launch invites is pure 100% distilled Crocodile Tears. hehe

Reading between the lines, the App appears to be something eventually aimed between iPhoto and Aperture, designed to work with the cloud properly. It remains to be seen whether updates will come fast or slow. Part of me would love to take advantage of this and many other "cloud" developments (backups etc), but I'm in the countryside with what is a good 7-8 meg broadband connection downstream, 1 meg up. Although that's good for a rural connection, I don't expect to get fibre or any kind of good upload speed any time soon. Syncing large files buggers up my bandwidth.

durbster

10,284 posts

223 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Leithen said:
I think the difference here is that the new App has been in beta for a while and available for all, rather than it being a hardware restricted review unit.

They certainly cherry pick their chosen reviewers, but several aren't overly sycophantic. El Reg doesn't do itself any favours - it's been so caustically wrong about Apple for so many years that their complaints about not receiving launch invites is pure 100% distilled Crocodile Tears. hehe
Aye, good points. I was probably drawing too many parallels with Final Cut when they overhauled it, dumbed it right down and pissed off a lot of editors in the process, but there were some gushing reviews before that came out too. To Apple's credit they have sorted it out quite a bit since it came out.

Anyway, I'll get back in my corner smilebeer

jmorgan

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36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Having had a better read of that article and looking around the web, this is a bit marmite. Some seem to hope that easy external editor use is on the next upgrade. Not sure I can wait that long. Spent last night re exporting from iPhoto and it takes time. don't want to be doing this again, sort of points to jump ship anyway.

Found out from this thread that I can get Lightroom standalone anyway, that is good.

DoubleSix

11,718 posts

177 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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As a humble consumer Photos does what I need and looks pretty. smile

Perhaps I could ask you pros a quick question though. How do I delete a photo from my iPhone, my MBP and iCloud once and for all??

I edited down my collection in iPhoto on MBP before upgrading to Photos and upon syncing everything up I now find phots that I deleted are back on all devices! grrrrrr

thx

Edited by DoubleSix on Friday 10th April 16:02

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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I'm just hoping it's quicker. My Aperture library is 500GB and works fine in Aperture, but in iPhoto (needed it at Christmas to produce a calendar), it is painfully slow. This is on a 2011 i7 27" iMac with 16GB of RAM and an SSD.

jmorgan

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36,010 posts

285 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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PSE 13 is still available from Adobe and at a discount, went looking as there were still copies on Amazon. £55.37 inc VAT for standalone I think. Offer at the moment, if I upgrade from 11 its £64. I assume that 13 will have the organiser. I was looking at the whole cloud thing and missed that elements is stand alone, I thought it had gone cloud with the rest.


Then Amazon doing a download for 49 notes? Not sure what that entails with Amazon software library?

revrange

1,182 posts

185 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Gave up on apple photo products years ago, Lightroom just kick's ass

K12beano

20,854 posts

276 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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(Bruised mules all over the road...)

jmorgan

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36,010 posts

285 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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revrange said:
Gave up on apple photo products years ago, Lightroom just kick's ass
I am very much the amateur and iPhoto did just work. It was quirky in the way it handled the pics but slot the camera on the computer on off it went. I just backed up those libraries as a whole.

I did try the free trial of Light Room but found I preferred the PSE organiser. That was some time ago, I was going to try it again to see what improvements and saw the PSE 13 on offer, think that offer has ended now. iPhoto worked for me, I used that as the organiser and PSE as the editor. I was about to get standalone LR but saw the offer for PSE and it will do what I want and £50 difference was a clincher. So dumping Apple as a photo tool anyway, means re organising the lot but keeps me off the streets.

Guessing the offer on PSE was timed but wonder if they would have had a big take up on LR?