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LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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RobDickinson said:
Hmm Will read but an obvious error in the first sentence doesn't bode well..
Hehe.

Good point .... but then who ever reads the intro?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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To sum up. People who dont look too closely wont notice the difference.

What he misses I think is that you can scale up the 5ds shot to OMG hueg and still be ok with most people whereas the 1Ds is at its limit (or past it) with the larger print.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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RobDickinson said:
To sum up. People who dont look too closely wont notice the difference.

What he misses I think is that you can scale up the 5ds shot to OMG hueg and still be ok with most people whereas the 1Ds is at its limit (or past it) with the larger print.
I think he covers the very large print scenario Rob - he's done a few over the years. He points out that to make that work and for it to be noticeably better than if would be from a lower resolution starting point one would really have to ensure using the best understanding of what is possible and the best technique achieve it.

But putting his pragmatic everyday viewer hat on he reckons that most people in the street and even the majority of photo buyers, commercial or otherwise, would probably not see or understand (or need) the difference. Or, probably, the huge size that would really show up the differences.

I suspect he is right. The OMG super detail end of the market is quite a specialised sector and likely to remain that way whilst the mass market is happy with using "social media" standards to satisfy its cravings.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 20th July 2015
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Well thats true for one.

I've printed a vast range of sizes and resolutions, though not quite at a technical level of the guy from the article, no 'layperson' has ever talked about detail or resolution. Thats from a 6mp A1 print to a 12" 30,000px print etc.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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A 14 metre Panorama print project described.

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/1...


A 3 metre print from an 11Mb image.

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/tutorial_pages/...



Hopefully these are random enough to be of interest here as a follow up the the previous posts.

DibblyDobbler

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11,271 posts

197 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Help Please smile

I have been fannying about experimenting with my popup flash to see if I can get it to work for macro shooting.

Normally I'm on Manual mode + f14 + 1/200 + iso100 ish or something similar.

The flash is not that powerful (as you would expect) so I though to myself to whack the Flash exposure compensation up to max (ie +2) - but I'm not understanding what it does!

With all other settings the same - for a middling aperture(eg f9) - the FEC does make it brighter or duller

But for a small aperture (f16) it has no affect at all - is this because the flash is already at maximum power and the dilithium crystals will no take it Captain ?

TIA smile

Comacchio

1,510 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Needing some advice..

I've upped the number of Munros I'm doing of late and no longer have access to my uncles 10-22mm. My next widest lens is an old 28-80.

I'm seeing a lot of spectacular views, but the lens isn't wide enough, and the IQ ain't all that great either! I would like to have a good few canvas worthy photos by the time I've finished my round...

So I need an UWA I think! Current body is a Canon 550d and I have no intention to upgrade that as yet. The lenses I've been swithering over are the EF-S 10-22 (£380), the EF 16-35 F4L (£703) & the EF 17-40 F4L (£549).

Naturally I'd like to spend as little as possible and get as wide as anyone would need when up a mountain, but better IQ can sway me...

Have I got the right shortlist or am I missing a trick? Timeframe for this purchase is a few months having just bought a (to me) rather nice car leaving me oh so skint.

Cheers,

Allan

Edited by Comacchio on Wednesday 29th July 19:08

DibblyDobbler

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11,271 posts

197 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Hi Allan! wavey

Funnily enough I have just bid on a second hand Tokina 11-16 to go on my crop body (100D) - £200ish on Talk Photography. It's my choice for a UWA on a crop.

I also have the 16-35 F4 for my 6D - brilliant lens but possibly not wide enough on a crop (personal preference obviously). Welcome to a shot if you are ever over in Edinburgh smile

Comacchio

1,510 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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DibblyDobbler said:
Hi Allan! wavey

Funnily enough I have just bid on a second hand Tokina 11-16 to go on my crop body (100D) - £200ish on Talk Photography. It's my choice for a UWA on a crop.

I also have the 16-35 F4 for my 6D - brilliant lens but possibly not wide enough on a crop (personal preference obviously). Welcome to a shot if you are ever over in Edinburgh smile
Long time again...

I've just changed jobs, so no longer around the country (thankfully, in a way!)! You've fair stepped up your gear.. well done!

Have you previously used the 10-22mm Canon? Would be interested in the difference in IQ between the two!

Allan

DibblyDobbler

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11,271 posts

197 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Comacchio said:
Long time again...

I've just changed jobs, so no longer around the country (thankfully, in a way!)! You've fair stepped up your gear.. well done!

Have you previously used the 10-22mm Canon? Would be interested in the difference in IQ between the two!

Allan
Hmm - all the gear and no idea sums it up quite nicely hehe Funnily enough I am intending to downsize at some point soon and probably go back to a crop body.

The 16-35 F4 is brilliant but as above probably not wide enough on a crop
The Toki gets great reviews for its IQ and does f2.8 (Milky Way shot?)
The Canon 10-22 and Sigma 10-20 are also good (I've had both in the past) but the fact I'm currently bidding on the Toki tells you which I think is best...

Comacchio

1,510 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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DibblyDobbler said:
Hmm - all the gear and no idea sums it up quite nicely hehe Funnily enough I am intending to downsize at some point soon and probably go back to a crop body.

The 16-35 F4 is brilliant but as above probably not wide enough on a crop
The Toki gets great reviews for its IQ and does f2.8 (Milky Way shot?)
The Canon 10-22 and Sigma 10-20 are also good (I've had both in the past) but the fact I'm currently bidding on the Toki tells you which I think is best...
Milky way over the beemer sounds awesome!

I await your sample shots wink

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 29th July 2015
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Comacchio said:
So I need an UWA I think! Current body is a Canon 550d and I have no intention to upgrade that as yet. The lenses I've been swithering over are the EF-S 10-22 (£380), the EF 16-35 F4L (£703) & the EF 17-40 F4L (£549).
As said, 17-40L and 16-35f4L are not wide enough, and you may as well get a 17-55f2.8 IS instead anyhow.

One option is get a panoramic head (if you shoot on tripod) and use a longer lens (18-35mm on crop) + stitch.

Really depend on what and how you shoot though

Comacchio

1,510 posts

181 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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RobDickinson said:
As said, 17-40L and 16-35f4L are not wide enough, and you may as well get a 17-55f2.8 IS instead anyhow.

One option is get a panoramic head (if you shoot on tripod) and use a longer lens (18-35mm on crop) + stitch.

Really depend on what and how you shoot though
I have a Rredsnapper tripod, but don't take it up the mountains any more - I generally snap and move on.

The Tokina 11-16 sounds good if the IQ is better than the Canon 10-22. Trying to resist the lure of the red ring on the 16-35 though!

Allan

DibblyDobbler

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11,271 posts

197 months

Friday 31st July 2015
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Well if anybody is interested I'm thinking of going back from full frame to crop. Been using my 100D more and more lately and the 6D now feels like a brick! Can't tell any difference in the images either (even when looking closer than any sane person would).

So I've picked up a second hand Tokina 11-16 and if it passes muster for landscape work I'll probably sell the 6D, the 24-105 (great but not much use on a crop) and the Samyang 14mm (overlaps with the Toki) - leaving me with a 100D, Toki 11-16, Canon 16-35 F4L, Tamron 16-300, MPE-65, and 400 5.6L. Might also get rid of one or other of the 16-35 and 16-300 but not sure yet.

Anybody think I'm doolally or good idea/bad idea etc? What have I not thought of?

Cheers smile

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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If your only shooting base ISO and cant tell the difference anyhow then go for it.

leglessAlex

5,447 posts

141 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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I've been using my mum's 600D for the odd shot here and there, and the main difference between that and the 5D3 I have is ISO performance. 3200 on the 600D is like 12,800 on the 5D3. Well, maybe not quite that extreme but there is a massive gap.

If you never use high ISO then I'd say there are very few drawbacks and none of them very serious...

DibblyDobbler

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11,271 posts

197 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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RobDickinson said:
If your only shooting base ISO and cant tell the difference anyhow then go for it.
leglessAlex said:
I've been using my mum's 600D for the odd shot here and there, and the main difference between that and the 5D3 I have is ISO performance. 3200 on the 600D is like 12,800 on the 5D3. Well, maybe not quite that extreme but there is a massive gap.

If you never use high ISO then I'd say there are very few drawbacks and none of them very serious...
Thanks for the advice Gents. I will see how I go once I have a try with the Toki smile

rob0r

420 posts

170 months

Sunday 9th August 2015
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I'm pondering buying another canon body at the moment as I'm not quite happy with my current kit. I mainly photo my dogs, static cars and holiday snaps, with some occasional motosport. I use either aperture or shutter priority modes.

30d
55-250 is
18-55 is II
50 1.8 II

EOS-M
18-55 ef-m
22 f2 ef-m

I'm not really happy with the photos from the 30d, the image quality doesn't seem great even at iso 100. This is especially the case with the 55-250 which I mostly use. Though I'm happy enough with the IQ of the 50mm. The AF is rapid and is great for the dogs.

I'm very happy with the image quality from the eos-m with either lens. What lets it down from me is the well known AF slowness. It's virtually impossible to focus the dogs on the move! I like the auto iso but I do miss a viewfinder occasionally. I find the eos-m fantastic for static images.

I'm considering what to do next and I've been looking at either buying another body or buying another lens or two for the 30d. In terms of another body I've considered something like a second hand
60d or 7d for around £300-400, but I think I'd still want to replace the 55-250 which may double the budget again (70-200 f4?).

I've also noticed the 100d brand new for around £300 with a highly rated 18-55 stm. I'm not sure I'd gain much with a 60d/7d. The small size should be fine as I don't mind the size of the eos-m at all.

Should I stick with the 30d and buy a lens or two? Or is it so outdated I should buy a different body, if so why not a 100d? Anything else I should consider??

Apologies for the ramble, I really am quite confused!

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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rob0r said:
I'm pondering buying another canon body at the moment as I'm not quite happy with my current kit. I mainly photo my dogs, static cars and holiday snaps, with some occasional motosport. I use either aperture or shutter priority modes.

30d
55-250 is
18-55 is II
50 1.8 II

EOS-M
18-55 ef-m
22 f2 ef-m

I'm not really happy with the photos from the 30d, the image quality doesn't seem great even at iso 100. This is especially the case with the 55-250 which I mostly use. Though I'm happy enough with the IQ of the 50mm. The AF is rapid and is great for the dogs.

I'm very happy with the image quality from the eos-m with either lens. What lets it down from me is the well known AF slowness. It's virtually impossible to focus the dogs on the move! I like the auto iso but I do miss a viewfinder occasionally. I find the eos-m fantastic for static images.

I'm considering what to do next and I've been looking at either buying another body or buying another lens or two for the 30d. In terms of another body I've considered something like a second hand
60d or 7d for around £300-400, but I think I'd still want to replace the 55-250 which may double the budget again (70-200 f4?).

I've also noticed the 100d brand new for around £300 with a highly rated 18-55 stm. I'm not sure I'd gain much with a 60d/7d. The small size should be fine as I don't mind the size of the eos-m at all.

Should I stick with the 30d and buy a lens or two? Or is it so outdated I should buy a different body, if so why not a 100d? Anything else I should consider??

Apologies for the ramble, I really am quite confused!
The 55-250 seems to be well thought of for the price thought things may have moved on for non-Canon lenses in that price range.

Personally I would be looking at updating the body and trying it with the existing lens to see how you feel about it before making a lens change decision. I think there should be much to gain in the body area alone. The decision about which body to move too is really about understanding what the differences are between the xxxD, xxD and xD offerings. Then decide which of the differences are most important to you. How the camera handles may be as important as the feature list. Maybe more important.

Dan_1981

17,389 posts

199 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Two things - at random.

I recently bought this book - primarily as I used to work with the author and like his work, but also as it's a great guide to somewhere I live on the doorstep too.

Yes I know of some of the places, yes I should explore more on my own. But It's pretty good.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Peak-District-Through-Jame...



Second - a question: Is there a go to Nikon fit, af-s wide angle?