DSLR or Compact System Camera?
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Worth having a look at the Sony A6000 - it has view finder and manual controls, super fast phase detect auto focus, and a great quality APS-C sized sensor. There is a wide range of e-mount lenses available for it these days.
If you want to splash out then the A7 range of full frame mirrorless are worth a look too.
If you want to splash out then the A7 range of full frame mirrorless are worth a look too.
DarkMatter said:
My thanks to everyone who has contributed to this topic which I started. I think that, for the sort of photography I'll be doing, a CSC will meet my needs and that it's unlikely I'll regret not buying a DSLR.
Could you let us know how you get on? I might be going for one.Derek Smith said:
Could you let us know how you get on? I might be going for one.
Unless you "need" the depth of field that FF brings or shoot birds in flight, I'm sure you'll be perfectly happy with csc/m43. I have an e-m1, 12-40 pro f2.8, 25mm f1.8, 35-100 f2.8, fisheye and 75-300 - they fit in a lowepro 102aw along with spare batteries, charger, cpl and a few other bits and pieces with some spare space too.Of course there are pros and cons to m43 and dslr - weight, battery life, dynamic range, AF tracking, size....you can argue each system's merits until you're blue in the face. For me, I don't regret getting rid of my Nikon system for a minute
if you've got £2400 sparemr_fibuli said:
Worth having a look at the Sony A6000 - it has view finder and manual controls, super fast phase detect auto focus, and a great quality APS-C sized sensor. There is a wide range of e-mount lenses available for it these days.
Sony have just announced a much improved version of this and so the price of the A6000 will probably drop quite dramatically.It claims the world's fastest autofocus and offers live view at up to 8 fps.
Just a small update, although I haven't yet bought a camera...
I've visited a camera shop and looked at the Fujifilm X-T10, Sony A6000, Panasonic Lumix G7 and Olympus E-M10 Mark II.
Originally I said I was attracted to the Fuji X-T10 because of the dedicated shutter speed setting button. Well having now tried the cameras I think I've rejected the X-T10 and A6000 because I didn't like the ergonomics, they just didn't feel right in my hands. That leaves me with the Lumix G7 and Olympus E-M10 which both felt ergonomically good. Of those two I preferred the ergonomics and the way information was presented in the viewfinder of the Lumix G7, however it did feel a bit cheap and fragile compared to the Olympus E-M10, so at the moment I am undecided.
I've visited a camera shop and looked at the Fujifilm X-T10, Sony A6000, Panasonic Lumix G7 and Olympus E-M10 Mark II.
Originally I said I was attracted to the Fuji X-T10 because of the dedicated shutter speed setting button. Well having now tried the cameras I think I've rejected the X-T10 and A6000 because I didn't like the ergonomics, they just didn't feel right in my hands. That leaves me with the Lumix G7 and Olympus E-M10 which both felt ergonomically good. Of those two I preferred the ergonomics and the way information was presented in the viewfinder of the Lumix G7, however it did feel a bit cheap and fragile compared to the Olympus E-M10, so at the moment I am undecided.
DarkMatter said:
Just a small update, although I haven't yet bought a camera...
I've visited a camera shop and looked at the Fujifilm X-T10, Sony A6000, Panasonic Lumix G7 and Olympus E-M10 Mark II.
Originally I said I was attracted to the Fuji X-T10 because of the dedicated shutter speed setting button. Well having now tried the cameras I think I've rejected the X-T10 and A6000 because I didn't like the ergonomics, they just didn't feel right in my hands. That leaves me with the Lumix G7 and Olympus E-M10 which both felt ergonomically good. Of those two I preferred the ergonomics and the way information was presented in the viewfinder of the Lumix G7, however it did feel a bit cheap and fragile compared to the Olympus E-M10, so at the moment I am undecided.
Try Samsung NX500 too or NX1 if you need the viewfinder. Great cameras yet nobody talks about them I've visited a camera shop and looked at the Fujifilm X-T10, Sony A6000, Panasonic Lumix G7 and Olympus E-M10 Mark II.
Originally I said I was attracted to the Fuji X-T10 because of the dedicated shutter speed setting button. Well having now tried the cameras I think I've rejected the X-T10 and A6000 because I didn't like the ergonomics, they just didn't feel right in my hands. That leaves me with the Lumix G7 and Olympus E-M10 which both felt ergonomically good. Of those two I preferred the ergonomics and the way information was presented in the viewfinder of the Lumix G7, however it did feel a bit cheap and fragile compared to the Olympus E-M10, so at the moment I am undecided.
DarkMatter said:
That leaves me with the Lumix G7 and Olympus E-M10 which both felt ergonomically good. Of those two I preferred the ergonomics and the way information was presented in the viewfinder of the Lumix G7, however it did feel a bit cheap and fragile compared to the Olympus E-M10, so at the moment I am undecided.
Both the Panasonic and Olympus are great cameras (as is I'm sure any of the current mirrorless systems from other brands apart from Nikon and Canon). I'm sure your be happy with either, one thing I do love about the E-M range of cameras is the in body stabilisation. The E-M10 II has 5 stops of stabilisation which is the same as my E-M5. This is what it can do with little/no light, 1 second exposure, hand held , kit lens!! Try getting a usable shot at that kind of exposure time without a decent IS system.
Edited by gangzoom on Sunday 7th February 11:37
gangzoom said:
Both the Panasonic and Olympus are great cameras (as is I'm sure any of the current mirrorless systems from other brands apart from Nikon and Canon). I'm sure your be happy with either, one thing I do love about the E-M range of cameras is the in body stabilisation. The E-M10 II has 5 stops of stabilisation which is the same as my E-M5.
This is what it can do with little/no light, 1 second exposure, hand held , kit lens!! Try getting a usable shot at that kind of exposure time without a decent IS system.
That's impressive.This is what it can do with little/no light, 1 second exposure, hand held , kit lens!! Try getting a usable shot at that kind of exposure time without a decent IS system.
Edited by gangzoom on Sunday 7th February 11:37
Sony's IS is garbage but apart from that I still love my A6000. As you've already discounted that, maybe have a look at the Olympus OM-D E-M5 II. Olympus have some cracking lenses and the only reason I went for Sony is the video capability, if it was just for stills I would have got one.
Edited by Janesy B on Tuesday 9th February 12:35
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