Considering changing sides

Considering changing sides

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Turn7

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23,609 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Thanks again Rob.

So, using the 150-600, shoot wide open, biggest RAW, lowest ISO and enought shutter speed to blur if panning.

Sadly,shooting low isnt always an option as Silverstone appears to hate photographers.

Turn7

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23,609 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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pidsy said:
Turn7 said:
Thanks Pidsy, but not for me.

I thought your other half had just bought a new one ?
She has but if she can't take pictures in Chernobyl I'll be in a world of pain. It's not quite the romantic trip she had in mind!
Not sure what the new camera was, but the dog pics looked great ?

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Turn7 said:
So, using the 150-600, shoot wide open... lowest ISO and enought shutter speed to blur if panning.
You can't fix all three parameters unless they happen to make the correct exposure. The shutter speed will be critical so I'd set that first. Then aperture, and ISO will have to be what it needs to be to make the exposure right.

Turn7

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23,609 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Simpo Two said:
Turn7 said:
So, using the 150-600, shoot wide open... lowest ISO and enought shutter speed to blur if panning.
You can't fix all three parameters unless they happen to make the correct exposure. The shutter speed will be critical so I'd set that first. Then aperture, and ISO will have to be what it needs to be to make the exposure right.
Sounds so simple !

ExPat2B

2,157 posts

200 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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You are actually seeing the results of full frame cameras and prime lenses, not Nikon vs Canon improvement, sorry.

Turn7

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23,609 posts

221 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Still on topic....

Had a day at the Wildlife Heritage Centre in Kent on Thursday. Been on my list for a while, and would thoroughly recommend the day to any togs.

Anyway,I took over 800 and the first sort gave me 225.

Heres one that Im prepared to share :

DSC_2540 by Mark P, on Flickr

Let me know what your thought please gents.

Current thoughts are to try the D7200 as as stepping stone to the D500, mainly because Im still not over happy with the details.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Turn7 said:
Sounds so simple !
It actually is! Making an exposure is the same as it's always been, with the bonus of being able to alter ISO on the fly thanks to the wonders of digital. The problem is that DSLRs have infinite combinations of settings all thrown at you at once, some connected, some not, some relevant, some not. So you need to get your head round the different elements of taking a photograph, decide what you want to achieve, and deal with them in order of importance. With practice it's instinctive, like driving a car.

ETA A photo of a very cross cat has appeared. Looks very good, my only criticism being I want more light on the cat. Either fill flash or select and hoof up in PS. Oh yes, and the cat is a bit blue smile

Yellabelly

2,258 posts

253 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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If you are hiring the Sigma 150-600 then it is best shooting at around f8 so you will need to play around with ISO to get the speed right for Moto-GP, but it always adds more interest to capture motion blur especially on the wheels otherwise the bikes look quite static if you freeze the wheels/spokes.

My lad raves about his Sigma 150-600 Sport and how much better it is compared to my his Sig 150-500! but at twice the price it should be that much more of an improvement. But it is a heavy beast, thankfully he is built like a brick outhouse so can shoot all day long with it!

Turn7

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23,609 posts

221 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Cheers YB.

Ive upped the anti slightly, as now added a D500 to the hire..... smile

Turn7

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23,609 posts

221 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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Hmm.
A few thoughts post Silverstone...

Having hired the Sigma 150-600 S for length I figured I may as well add a D500 to the order for a field test....

Id like your opinions on my shots (D500) and the final shot (7DII) , BOTH with the same glass, both shot RAW and both processed by me in LR.....


PPD-5 by Mark P, on Flickr

PPD-4 by Mark P, on Flickr



And, the Canon shot...

jl7d (1 of 1) by Mark P, on Flickr


I still feel Canon edge it on IQ and punch...
Also, and Im no sheep....I noticed at one corner there were 8 Canons to 2 Nikon....

Flip Martian

19,680 posts

190 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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They're not completely comparable - the Canon is a far tighter crop with a more detailed (more upright!) subject. And all the better for it, admittedly.

Jut my tuppence worth - last year I went on a Birds of Prey photography day - learned a lot, really enjoyed it. Just me and my (now old) Nikon D3000 and a 55-200 lens - budget kit, clearly. I came back with some great shots (for me, give the quality of the kit I have). The tutor assessed them after and gave a lot of praise so I felt I'd learned a lot. But there was 1 part of the course where we were to photograph a particular bird flying very high - "I recommend going to 300 for this one" - which of course I couldn't do. But a kind lady lent me her spare body with a 300 on it. Both Canon. And it was a doddle to use - and the pics were lovely and sharp, despite being at 300. Shutter was super quick - I was really impressed. But the camera and lens together were well into 4 figures - I forget what now but she was thinking of selling the body and it was over a grand, used. It demonstrated not the difference between Canon and Nikon but the difference between a "budget-but-decent-enough" body and lens and something that pros (or very serious amateurs) would use. It WAS like night and day. But sadly, I can't justify that expenditure until I open a photography business! laugh

Conversely - and this was important for me - some show offs on the course made a big point of showing off their expensive kit (1 woman showed up with 2 cases full of expensive gear and fretted loudly about which to use....FFS...) and I saw their results on the tutors website afterwards and was pleased to note many of mine held up pretty well against theirs. So its not just about gear, its about the snapper, too.

ian in lancs

3,772 posts

198 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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Flip Martian said:
... So its not just about gear, its about the snapper, too.
yup