Canon 5D MkIV

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cowboyengineer

1,411 posts

114 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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JulianHJ said:
I've pre-ordered; I'm upgrading from a mk2. Hoping to get my hands on it before a trip to Iceland in six weeks...
That was my plan, but off to Iceland on Monday frown

singlecoil

33,590 posts

246 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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I've looked at the specs and looked at some reviews and I'm starting to think I might end up with a Sony and a Metabones adapter as a second body.

ashleyman

6,983 posts

99 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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I was waiting until this came out to make a decision about buying a 2nd body.

Can't decide between the 5D4 and the 1DX2, neither seems such a huge step up from it's predecessor.

Havoc856

2,072 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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And theres me looking at going from 7D Mk1 to 5D2... LOL...

FF is so damn expensive.

Agree though there doesn't look like much of an upgrade... maybe they're taking a leaf from Apple....

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 25th August 2016
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Havoc856 said:
And theres me looking at going from 7D Mk1 to 5D2... LOL...

FF is so damn expensive.
Thats what I did, some ways a step back ( speed etc) but the sensor is much better for landscapes


[quote=Havoc856Agree though there doesn't look like much of an upgrade... maybe they're taking a leaf from Apple....
TBH canons never look good by their spec, just on how it all works together to make a great camera. This lives and dies by how well the sensor works though.

The 1dxmk2 AF will be amazing, its unflapable. 7fps is good, the dual pixel focus is miles ahead of the class for live view/video focusing. it has a lot going for it.

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

191 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Does the 5DMk IV have live view with a phone app?

I was hoping for an articulated view finder.

Can't understand why they went for slower card slots.

Slower cards means longer transfer times once out of the camera especially with 4k footage.


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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It has Wi-Fi and nfs I assume it'll work with canons phone app fine

Crafty_

13,284 posts

200 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Havoc856 said:
And theres me looking at going from 7D Mk1 to 5D2... LOL...

FF is so damn expensive.

Agree though there doesn't look like much of an upgrade... maybe they're taking a leaf from Apple....
I've got a 7d mk1 too.
The 5d mk3 jump considerably in price compared to the mk2 and this one seems to have gone up again. I'm starting to think a 6d mk2 if/when it arrives will be the route to go. As an amatuer I'm not sure that I'd use a 5d mk4 to its fullest extent.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Should have my paws on one in October for a play

Tony1963

4,758 posts

162 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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A couple of points.

This is the launch price. It'll be lower by the new year.

Brexit. The pound doesn't buy as much now, so most imports have to be more expensive. If you voted for brexit, this is what you wanted.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Tony1963 said:
Brexit. The pound doesn't buy as much now, so most imports have to be more expensive. If you voted for brexit, this is what you wanted.
The NZD is really strong yet we get equally shafted...

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

191 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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No 4k HDMI!

That along with no C-Log and the slow cards is a deal breaker for me. Canon would have had my money.

I'm now thinking 6d mkII and a GH5 when they arrive but that's still two cameras to lug around.

A7RII was just too slow and fiddly.




ashleyman

6,983 posts

99 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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V8A*ndy said:
No 4k HDMI!

That along with no C-Log and the slow cards is a deal breaker for me. Canon would have had my money.

I'm now thinking 6d mkII and a GH5 when they arrive but that's still two cameras to lug around.

A7RII was just too slow and fiddly.



Where did you find out the info about the card slot speed?
I've been looking for ages but must be missing it. This was also a problem with the 5D mk iii if you used an SD card as a backup it reduces both CF and SD to non -UHS standards which was rubbish.

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

191 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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ashleyman said:
V8A*ndy said:
No 4k HDMI!

That along with no C-Log and the slow cards is a deal breaker for me. Canon would have had my money.

I'm now thinking 6d mkII and a GH5 when they arrive but that's still two cameras to lug around.

A7RII was just too slow and fiddly.



Where did you find out the info about the card slot speed?
I've been looking for ages but must be missing it. This was also a problem with the 5D mk iii if you used an SD card as a backup it reduces both CF and SD to non -UHS standards which was rubbish.
All over the net especially youtube it has no Cfast and only uhs 1 support not UHS II.

PITA as Canon are using MJPEG as a codec. Files will be massive to load into your computer.

This could have been the ultimate camera for me but Canon obviously want to protect their video line.

ashleyman

6,983 posts

99 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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V8A*ndy said:
ashleyman said:
V8A*ndy said:
No 4k HDMI!

That along with no C-Log and the slow cards is a deal breaker for me. Canon would have had my money.

I'm now thinking 6d mkII and a GH5 when they arrive but that's still two cameras to lug around.

A7RII was just too slow and fiddly.



Where did you find out the info about the card slot speed?
I've been looking for ages but must be missing it. This was also a problem with the 5D mk iii if you used an SD card as a backup it reduces both CF and SD to non -UHS standards which was rubbish.
All over the net especially youtube it has no Cfast and only uhs 1 support not UHS II.

PITA as Canon are using MJPEG as a codec. Files will be massive to load into your computer.

This could have been the ultimate camera for me but Canon obviously want to protect their video line.
It's so annoying. I'm regularly shooting commercial sports work which means shooting in bursts (not enough to justify a 1D purchase). I mainly use CF cards and then a should be using a huge SD card as an in camera backup just in case anything goes wrong but cannot do it as it's just too slow.

That was the one single thing I was hoping to get from the 5D IV. So far I've been lucky and never had a card fail but it's bound to happen. I think the 5Ds has both slots being fast so I might get one of those instead.

Edited by ashleyman on Monday 29th August 23:10

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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I'm glad I dont machine gun or shoot video, mostly could care less about memory card speeds!

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

191 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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RobDickinson said:
I'm glad I dont machine gun or shoot video, mostly could care less about memory card speeds!
You just keep it slow Rob!

Your pics are amazing bow

Andynbr

89 posts

159 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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davidd said:
It is clearly a better Camera but it's a lot more than the mk3 was at launch.
The MKIII was £2999 in 2012... With inflation etc over the years, it's not really "that" much more expensive than the MKIII was.

I wonder how many people would be moaning if it came out with CFast saying "Great now I have to buy all new memory cards". As said, the 5D is not the sports/wildlife camera of choice. I think your model would be quite frightened if you shot for 3 seconds continuously.

All these online reviews slagging the camera off make me laugh. None of them have actually used the camera or seen the results it can give, so at the moment it's all speculation.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

135 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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I was fully prepared to buy CFast cards to record 4k60, but it's not an option.

Very poor that it can't even output 4K over HDMI.

Andynbr

89 posts

159 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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I personally don't think Canon were ever going to do that as it would stop people buying a 1DX2 or their Cine line of video cameras.

Plus, the 1DX2 has those features and look how much that costs. To include those features in the 5D4 would have bumped up the price and people are already moaning about the price. Think what the reaction would be if it was £4600 instead?