GoPro Karma

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Ari

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19,348 posts

216 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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Just seen this - looks amazing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjNjcrQZtd8

No sign of it on Amazon yet so no idea how much.

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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$799 sans camera, too. Impressive.

justin220

5,347 posts

205 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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Like that a lot!

Specifically the portability.

Price?

AdamIndy

1,661 posts

105 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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Looks great though it's going to be bloody expensive no doubt!

justin220

5,347 posts

205 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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$799 without a camera, $999 with a gopro session, $1099 with gopro 5

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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It's showing as £719.99 on the GoPro website. Surprisingly reasonable I thought.

JontyR

1,915 posts

168 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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I was looking at buying a lily drone....but this is going to kill them!

andyr30

613 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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I've got a Hero 4 Black and have been looking for a handheld gimbal.

My man maths says this would be the best option. I have been looking at upgrading from my DJI drone too.

DJI are supposedly releasing a similar style to compete with it called thr Mavic.

Looking forward to the release of the Karma

joshleb

1,544 posts

145 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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I was sure GoPro were going to be too late to the market with DJI doing pretty well.

Wow, I think they're going to kill it with this! Just the stabilisation and all the tracking abilities look like they work so well.
If they're represented properly in the video, this is going to be next level!

justin220

5,347 posts

205 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Reading a few articles online, the Karma doesn't have a 'follow me' function?

Surely thats a massive oversight considering its predominantly an action camera ?

ashleyman

6,987 posts

100 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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I really want to like it but I'm not sure it'll work. It's more expensive all in than a DJI Phantom is plus the software will be more limited.

DJI have the edge but GoPro do have some great ideas. Mounting the camera up front so it doesn't catch the blades in shot was a good idea, so is it's size.

Still think I'd go DJI if I were buying another drone though.

andyr30

613 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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The slim design and portability, along with the option of popping the gimbal off and using it handheld is really appealing to me.

Lugging my DJI Phantom up to the top of a mountain in it's mammoth backpack is a bit of a pain, as well as having to carry seperate camera for off drone shooting.

This is an all in one package for what I would need. I'd have liked to have seen some things like the obstacle avoidance that DJI are using.

The fact now that I'll be able to shoot everything on the GoPro camera makes life a lot easier

gp1699

402 posts

205 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Casey has had one to test, looks good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf16mp6Nbh8

Ari

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19,348 posts

216 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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The really big question is whether these things can stay in the air reliably - following the DJI Phantom users Facebook page that seems to be the big issue.

Particularly relevant if shooting over deep water...

rottie102

3,997 posts

185 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Ari said:
The really big question is whether these things can stay in the air reliably - following the DJI Phantom users Facebook page that seems to be the big issue.

Particularly relevant if shooting over deep water...
That's bullst. For every one that crashed and goes to Facebook there are probably thousands that didn't and the crash probably was caused by user 50% times anyway.
That's from an owner of three Phantoms and one Bebop 2.
I dipped a Phantom in a lake almost all the way to the propellers BY MY FAULT, the drone AUTOMATICALLY returned home and landed, I was pouring water out of it. After two days with gimbal in rice it was working like new. Then I crashed the same drone into a tree flying backwards - again MY FAULT. Drone felt down from about 4m, it was all scratched but was still transmitting its location and I could see the camera pointing upwards so it was easy to find it. I was flying it 10 min later, again like new.

Don't believe all the negativity that you see on the internet.


Ari

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19,348 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Well it was astonishingly regular bullst - regular enough for me not to want to put several hundred quid where it was liable to disappear forever.

Even if it was user error, who says I won't make the same mistake? Even while saying it's bullst you admit to dunking yours in a lake (albeit you got it back - well done).

rottie102

3,997 posts

185 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Ari said:
Well it was astonishingly regular bullst - regular enough for me not to want to put several hundred quid where it was liable to disappear forever.

Even if it was user error, who says I won't make the same mistake? Even while saying it's bullst you admit to dunking yours in a lake (albeit you got it back - well done).
So how is it DJI's fault for users crashing their drones? The thing the you afraid most is actually what Phantoms are VERY good at, despite its many flaws which will make me buy Karma when it's released. Maybe first actually have a play with one and see how stable and safe it is instead of just relying on scaremongering on internet without first hand experience?

Ari

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19,348 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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So you think people are just making it up? confused

Presumably that includes your story of dunking one then?

Seems an odd thing to do. confused

rottie102

3,997 posts

185 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Ari said:
So you think people are just making it up? confused

Presumably that includes your story of dunking one then?

Seems an odd thing to do. confused
I give up smile Have a nice evening!

Ari

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19,348 posts

216 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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It's really not complicated, and I'm genuinely curious about the issue, since it's a major deterrent to buying one.

There are many reports of these things unintentionally going down. You've claimed that they're bullst before admitting that, err, it's happened to you too!

So either they are (and whether that's a fundamental fault with the machine or an ongoing issue with the control of the things is largely irrelevant when you're staring at the spreading ripples across 20 metre deep water where your multi-hundred pound drone used to be).

OR it's, as you say, all bullst - presumably therefore including your own experience since you've admitted that it happened to you (albeit you managed to recover it before it disappeared completely).

And to bring the discussion back on track, assuming that it isn't mass DJI Phantom inspired 'bullst', then if the GoPro Karma has a better designed control system that means people aren't accidentally losing control the things, or doesn't have whatever flaw it is that causes these things to drop out of the sky, (or better yet is waterproof and floats, but presumably they're have mentioned it if it was) then that's a pretty major plus if (as I would be), you're planning to fly them regularly over deep water (which is why I've not bought one yet).

Edited by Ari on Saturday 24th September 11:36