Tempted by a Sony.. but..

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RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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noell35 said:
Cheap? You must be making a lot from those Astro workshops :-D
I am thanks wink

A 2nd hand A7 I am guessing (dont know UK market) will be cheap relative to the rest of the range and probably the new RX100 mk5 or whatever..

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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A quick look at ebay.co.uk shows you can get an A7 and 28-70 for £900 BIN and a RX100 mk4 is £800 new

You could probably get an a7 body for 600-700 and find a cheap lens to run on it.

EdT

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5,103 posts

284 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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RobDickinson said:
A quick look at ebay.co.uk shows you can get an A7 and 28-70 for £900 BIN and a RX100 mk4 is £800 new

You could probably get an a7 body for 600-700 and find a cheap lens to run on it.
What's the fit for the lenses? Assume my box full of Canon/Sigmas wont be any use?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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EdT said:
What's the fit for the lenses? Assume my box full of Canon/Sigmas wont be any use?
The cool thing with most mirrorless is there are plenty of adapters to use other lenses.

I use canon lenses exclusively on my a7r, with an (expensive but free with my camera) metabones adaptor.

If you need AF its trickier, the metabons or the new sigma one, if you dont then there are heaps of cheap adaptors out there, and the sonys are pretty decent to manual focus too.

noell35

3,170 posts

148 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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Yes of course it's relative. I'm not sure the op set a budget to be fair so it's irrelevant. I have powerful director jealousybiggrin

I considered the A7 before getting a Fuji xt10. My aim was to get a kit that was smaller but gave me a similar quality to my Nikon d700. I did consider the A7 but although the body is smaller , the lenses are quite hefty and relatively more expensive than an APSc CSC.

You can get a new A7 with a 28-70 lens from John Lewis for under £1000.

EdT

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284 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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noell35 said:
You can get a new A7 with a 28-70 lens from John Lewis for under £1000.
Blimey, you can! May pop into Reading asap

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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Bigger sensors require larger lenses.

Its a shame there isnt a set of quality small f5.6 primes or something

noell35

3,170 posts

148 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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EdT said:
Blimey, you can! May pop into Reading asap
http://www.johnlewis.com/sony-alpha-ilce-7k-compac...

It's a mk1. I assume you know there's a mk2?

noell35

3,170 posts

148 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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RobDickinson said:
Bigger sensors require larger lenses.

Its a shame there isnt a set of quality small f5.6 primes or something
A7R with a 35mm pancake lens cloud9

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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$800 USD for that pancake isnt exactly cheap biggrin


One thing I like about the sony stuff is there is plenty of cheap 3rd party stuff for it, remotes, batteries, L plates, adaptors etc.

noell35

3,170 posts

148 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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RobDickinson said:
$800 USD for that pancake isnt exactly cheap
I didn't realise there actually was one. Link? Maybe I'll get lucky on the lottery!

noell35

3,170 posts

148 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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EdT said:
Other option is to look at full frame but getting tired of carting lenses & gubbins around
Cat among the pigeons:

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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noell35 said:
I didn't realise there actually was one. Link? Maybe I'll get lucky on the lottery!
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1008123-REG/sony_sel35f28z_sonnar_t_fe_35mm.html

its not exactly pancake small but close

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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noell35 said:
Cat among the pigeons:
Stick a huge lens on anything and it wont be small. With the a7 you have the option of the 35 or whatever ( many easily adaptable pancakes etc)

EdT

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5,103 posts

284 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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noell35 said:
http://www.johnlewis.com/sony-alpha-ilce-7k-compac...

It's a mk1. I assume you know there's a mk2?
I do but it's purely a hobby camera.. the earlier one may well but a good first step into FF without breaking the bank
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RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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EdT said:
I do but it's purely a hobby camera.. the earlier one may well but a good first step into FF without breaking the bank
?
The mk2 isnt a huge upgrade imo.

Biggest feature is the 5 axis IBIS stabilisation, slight AF improvement, and full metal construction. They have changed the ergonomics a little too.

You can get IS lenses for the a7 anyhow.

noell35

3,170 posts

148 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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EdT said:
I do but it's purely a hobby camera.. the earlier one may well but a good first step into FF without breaking the bank
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Yes, it's fine just wanted to make sure you were aware. As Rob said it's not a massive upgrade to the a7ii

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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noell35 said:
Cat among the pigeons
What camera/lens combo are these? Coming from somebody with experience of carting at least two bodies and several lenses around for up to 12 hours per day (wedding photographer), a couple of A7s with, say, a 28mm f2 and 55mm 1.8 and 90mm 2.8 in the bag feel and are significantly lighter and more manageable than a comparable FF DSLR setup (bearing in mind the 55mm 1.8 is in no way comparable to a nifty fifty and so on)

The beauty of mirrorless is that it can be relatively tiny when you want them to be, but still have the option of building a full 'professional' system. For arguments sake, an a7RII and 55mm 1.8 (one of the highest rated lens ever tested) is about 900g, a D750 with no lens isn't far shy of that.




Edited by ukaskew on Thursday 20th October 08:47

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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A lot of that weight is battery... One issue with the sonys for event shooting is small batteries and because of the evf etc high power use.


As for the 55/1.8 its ok but as usual sony cook the data in camera to give it a 'help'

JustinP1

13,330 posts

230 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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noell35 said:
EdT said:
Other option is to look at full frame but getting tired of carting lenses & gubbins around
Cat among the pigeons:
Putting a kilo of glass on a small camera makes it big shocker!

I'll raise you:



Seriously though, a big zoom or an f1.4 prime is always going to make a camera big.

However, the Sony Zeiss 35mm doesn't protrude much further out than the grip, which is a very different perspective and makes my Sony look half the 'heft' of my 6D with a similar prime on it.

That means that my Sony is taken out with me more than the 6D ever was and has made my RX100 redundant as the image quality of the A7 series and ease of use in getting 'keepers' more than make up for the increase in size.

Edited by JustinP1 on Thursday 20th October 11:10