Nikon D7000 help with lens choice

Nikon D7000 help with lens choice

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macp

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4,059 posts

183 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Dear all

As a relative novice Im looking for some help with lens choice.I inherited my late father in laws Nikon D7000 which has a 70-300 VR Nikkor telephoto lens.Its a great camera and a great lens but man its big & heavy.Im wondering if I can get some kind of do it all lens.I used it this weekend below are a couple of pics and the lens is great but I think its probably a little overkill and obviously its difficult to take snapshots with.Im considering selling the lens to fund a new lens/lenses.I would very much appreciate any advice.





toohuge

3,434 posts

216 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Weight is always going to be an issue....

The ultimate do it all lens for the D7000 is probably the 18-300 - it's a good, sharp lens - however it is on the heavy side!

If you go smaller, the 18-140 and 18-200 are just as good, obviously shorter on the telephoto side of things, but lighter too.

There is an excellent 16-80 or 16-85 - both good, the 16-80 is faster and a newer model - these are lighter than the 70-300.

If budget is a concern, then the 18-55 Nikon is very good considering the price - light weight too.

F355GTS

3,721 posts

255 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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18-200 is a brilliant everyday lens as the the 18-300 (6.3) but as said a little heavier

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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The 70-300 FX is a good lens but will work as a 105-450mm due to the 1.5 crop factor, the 18-300 is a DX lens so will cover the 18-300 range.
The thing is, do you get the 18-300 or do you actually get something more useable as a daily?

You already have a good lens, if a little slow to focus, you will end up with a similar issue with the 18-300, so I personally would look at the 24-70 f2.8 to complement your 70-300.

2nd hand values for a good one will be similar to a new 18-300, and you will probably not take the 24-70 off as its a fantastic lens for just wandering around with.

WelshChris

1,179 posts

254 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Your 70-300 is probably the DX version given that it's paired with a D7000.

The 18-200 is a great everyday lens - You might find that you never take it off the camera. The 18-300, whilst giving a bit more reach, is a good deal weightier than the 18-200.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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If you think the 70-300VR is heavy you need to get some muscles on those pipecleaner arms! It's a telephoto; if you want 300mm they don't get much smaller or lighter.

So, you could either muscle up, keep it for the long-range stuff and get another lens to fill in the wide angle and midrange, or sell it and get a one-size-fits-all lens like the 18-200 or 18-300.

tonyb1968 said:
You already have a good lens, if a little slow to focus, you will end up with a similar issue with the 18-300, so I personally would look at the 24-70 f2.8 to complement your 70-300.
I'd have to disagree. It's as big as the 70-300 and probably heavier, really for FX cameras (matched with the 14-24 and 70-200), and is far too expensive for a newcomer.

macp

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183 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Thanks all appreciate the advice I will take a look at the options offered.I should say not a lot wrong with the 70-300 but I was wondering if I could use it to fund a more all round use lens.I need a lens where Im not having to stand 10 feet away to even get the object in the view finder.Hope that makes sense.

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Simpo Two said:
If you think the 70-300VR is heavy you need to get some muscles on those pipecleaner arms! It's a telephoto; if you want 300mm they don't get much smaller or lighter.

So, you could either muscle up, keep it for the long-range stuff and get another lens to fill in the wide angle and midrange, or sell it and get a one-size-fits-all lens like the 18-200 or 18-300.

tonyb1968 said:
You already have a good lens, if a little slow to focus, you will end up with a similar issue with the 18-300, so I personally would look at the 24-70 f2.8 to complement your 70-300.
I'd have to disagree. It's as big as the 70-300 and probably heavier, really for FX cameras (matched with the 14-24 and 70-200), and is far too expensive for a newcomer.
Yes is expensive but its also very good, even though its an FX lens, it will come in 2nd hand, at a similar price to a new 18-300 DX, but there are other options, Im still going with the 70-300 being the fx and not dx, as the FX was far more widely available, it was the first one I got with my D80 waaaaaaaay back in the day.

This could be sold and a couple of options for all rounders wouldnt be the 18-300.

I would look at the Sigma 17-70 macro lens, great little lens for a DX camera, have one on my D7100, its a fantastic all rounder for the money and retain the 70-300.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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tonyb1968 said:
Yes is expensive but its also very good, even though its an FX lens, it will come in 2nd hand, at a similar price to a new 18-300 DX, but there are other options, Im still going with the 70-300 being the fx and not dx, as the FX was far more widely available, it was the first one I got with my D80 waaaaaaaay back in the day.
Unless something's changed the 70-300VR is FX; I have one as my 'airshow' lens (ie when you need length but not aperture)

tonyb1968 said:
This could be sold and a couple of options for all rounders wouldnt be the 18-300.

I would look at the Sigma 17-70 macro lens, great little lens for a DX camera, have one on my D7100, its a fantastic all rounder for the money and retain the 70-300.
I'll bet it's not a macro lens, but yes, something of that range would be an ideal partner for the 70-300. It depends how seriously the OP takes his photography - eg does he want to change lenses?

A quick look on eBay shows the 24-70mmf2.8 s/h around £800 a new 18-300mm somewhat less. If the OP wants a single lens solution (ie is not bothered by max aperture and wants to save money) then sell the 70-300VR and get a s/h 18-300.

AJB

856 posts

215 months

Thursday 5th January 2017
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The 18-55 doesn't cost too much, especially second hand. Maybe get that for every day use and keep the 70-300 for when you need a long zoom?

eltawater

3,114 posts

179 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Simpo Two said:
tonyb1968 said:
Yes is expensive but its also very good, even though its an FX lens, it will come in 2nd hand, at a similar price to a new 18-300 DX, but there are other options, Im still going with the 70-300 being the fx and not dx, as the FX was far more widely available, it was the first one I got with my D80 waaaaaaaay back in the day.
Unless something's changed the 70-300VR is FX; I have one as my 'airshow' lens (ie when you need length but not aperture)
They've added a DX specific one.

http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/product/nikkor-l...

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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eltawater said:
They've added a DX specific one.
Ah thanks. Not sure why but I expect Nikon had to thnk of something to do...!

FX or DX though it doesn't change the situation here.

toohuge

3,434 posts

216 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Simpo Two said:
eltawater said:
They've added a DX specific one.
Ah thanks. Not sure why but I expect Nikon had to thnk of something to do...!

FX or DX though it doesn't change the situation here.
The new DX version is an AF-P lens with a stepper motor, designed for shooting movies apparently.... Still, it'll be optically very good as most of them are.

SebringMan

1,773 posts

186 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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F355GTS said:
18-200 is a brilliant everyday lens as the the 18-300 (6.3) but as said a little heavier
It is great. I have it on mine but mine is a little damaged due to me. Yes I know...

Bar the 18-200 VR what other choices are there other there for the money? I really don't want to buy a replacement but then I doubt mine can be repaired. It works, just not very well (read damaged).

2Btoo

3,426 posts

203 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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Forgive me if I'm speaking out of turn here but .... how about a prime? I have a D7100 and the lens that is on the front of it is almost always a 35mm prime. It's GREAT for snapshots, it's small, it's light, it's fast and it makes the camera a lot easier to carry around. And a camera that is less hassle to take with you gets taken out for lots more outings, meaning that you take many more photos.

It's also as sharp as hell and makes me think much more about my photos, which are probably the two best things about it.

I also have the aforementioned 18-200mm and it's a nice thing, but I use the 35mm for preference almost all the time. I ain't no photographer but a prime lens is helping me improve with every shot I take.


LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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I have used an 18-200VR on my D80 for about 7yrs, now upgraded to a D7200 but kept the lens as it's a great all rounder & not too heavy.

Also have a 50mm 1.8 & can borrow the 18-55 VRII I bought my Daughter for the D80 she inherited from me!

WelshChris

1,179 posts

254 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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The (fairly) new Nikon 18-140 is supposed to be a cracking lens too - you obviously lose a bit of length compared with the 18-200, but most reports agree that it's sharper overall, whereas the 18-200 can be a bit soft at the top end.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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toohuge said:
The new DX version is an AF-P lens with a stepper motor, designed for shooting movies apparently.... Still, it'll be optically very good as most of them are.
It's heading towards the slow side on aperture though; it's f6.3 at the long end as opposed to f5.6 for the FX version. Also a few other minus points: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/70-300mm-vr-afp.h...

ExPat2B

2,157 posts

200 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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So - the great Nikon DX lens debate.

The best options IMHO are :

The 35mm f1.8 lens. Yes it is a fixed lens, but it is so bright ( 16 times bigger aperture than your 70-300) , so much faster to focus and makes for such a neat package as its small and light. It is pretty much welded to my D7100. Every Nikon DX shooter should own one.

The 18-55 VR kit lens. This needs to be stopped down to f8 to get the best out of it, but it makes for a fine lightweight lens for getting landscape and "I was there" people snaps. A total no brainer, its £60 second hand to pickup.

The new Nikon DX 70-300. Nikon finally listed to the DX guys who wanted a light telephoto. its 400g, nearly half the weight of the FX version, affordable ( £270 ) sharp, accurate focusing.

Another telephoto option is the 55-200. I like this lens as it is really small and light and cheap and performs well in good light/away from the max aperture and zoom. Its not as good as the new 70-300 but it is very very cheap.

You could put together a fine 3 lens kit ( 35mm - £110, 18-55 - £60, 55-200 £85 ) for 250ish total second hand from ebay.

On the superzoom front, the general consensus is that the 18-140 is the the one to have vs the 18-200 and the 18-300. The 18-140 is sharper faster to focus and more usable at max aperture.

The next suggestion is to get a camera strap instead of the Nikon supplied one. Doesn't need to be too fancy, but this makes carrying a DLSR all day convienient.

https://www.caselogic.com/en-us/us/products/camera...

Once you have those basics, and you have been shooting for a while and getting the feel of what you like, then start to look at a specialist lens.

For portraits, Nikon 85mm f.18 is great.

For macro, Nikon 85mm DX f3.5 or 105mm f.28 for

For people shooting the 17-55 f2.8 is a solid performer on the D7000.

Telephoto the Tamron 150-600 is starting to look like an incredible bargain as a new tamron model has been released to replace it and Nikon brought out the 200-500 ( however if you can afford it, spring for the Nikon 200-500 as its fabulous )

Don't touch teleconverters, they are only for use with exotic primes like the 300mm f2.8.



Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Friday 6th January 2017
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I can't believe that anyone over 10 need a special strap to be able to carry a DSLR! For gods sake man up people!