Discussion
pastor brian said:
Is it me or is the CSL really boring to look at?
Nice pics none the less.
At the end of the day it's a 3 series beemer, no matter how big the wheels are.
However I wouldn't say boring - knowing what it is lends it an air of agression and menace that you don't get in a repmobile 318i!
The CSL does look like any other 3-series coupe if you look quickly, but when you get up close you start to notice the carbon fibre bits and pieces, the suede steering wheel and other toys that really make it look the part.
Great car and great pics again Tracky... do you still actually work? You're doing TONNES of shoots these days.
Keep it up
Great car and great pics again Tracky... do you still actually work? You're doing TONNES of shoots these days.
Keep it up
These photos are interesting, ive been looking at them since they went up because there is something about them which i just find not quite right, and Im shooting a csl soon, so its good to see your approach.
After a lot of consideration i think ive figured out what i dont like here. All of this is just my opinion but:
I dont think the location matches the car well. Id have gone for some urban/industrial stuff which i think would reinfoce the cars character.
As others have commented, at a glance it looks like any ordinary three series beemer. I think this is because you have shot the car from so low down the ground clearance is emphasised, which reduces the agressiveness of the stance in the photo.
Maybe taking some shots that lead the eye into the details would have helped reveal that its a csl not just any 3 series.
You say it only took 45 minutes, and the first one in particular looks rushed to me: if you had moved the car forward 5 feet you would have blocked off the puddle and the debris by the side of the road. (Obviously i cant tell if there is a wall just off the side of the frame). I guess I would have concentrated on getting 2/3 good shots.
Just some stuff to think about i guess.
Matt
After a lot of consideration i think ive figured out what i dont like here. All of this is just my opinion but:
I dont think the location matches the car well. Id have gone for some urban/industrial stuff which i think would reinfoce the cars character.
As others have commented, at a glance it looks like any ordinary three series beemer. I think this is because you have shot the car from so low down the ground clearance is emphasised, which reduces the agressiveness of the stance in the photo.
Maybe taking some shots that lead the eye into the details would have helped reveal that its a csl not just any 3 series.
You say it only took 45 minutes, and the first one in particular looks rushed to me: if you had moved the car forward 5 feet you would have blocked off the puddle and the debris by the side of the road. (Obviously i cant tell if there is a wall just off the side of the frame). I guess I would have concentrated on getting 2/3 good shots.
Just some stuff to think about i guess.
Matt
nomoregravy said:
These photos are interesting, ive been looking at them since they went up because there is something about them which i just find not quite right, and Im shooting a csl soon, so its good to see your approach.
After a lot of consideration i think ive figured out what i dont like here. All of this is just my opinion but:
I dont think the location matches the car well. Id have gone for some urban/industrial stuff which i think would reinfoce the cars character.
As others have commented, at a glance it looks like any ordinary three series beemer. I think this is because you have shot the car from so low down the ground clearance is emphasised, which reduces the agressiveness of the stance in the photo.
Maybe taking some shots that lead the eye into the details would have helped reveal that its a csl not just any 3 series.
You say it only took 45 minutes, and the first one in particular looks rushed to me: if you had moved the car forward 5 feet you would have blocked off the puddle and the debris by the side of the road. (Obviously i cant tell if there is a wall just off the side of the frame). I guess I would have concentrated on getting 2/3 good shots.
Just some stuff to think about i guess.
Matt
Indeed; as I said I had little or no choice in terms of location - any time spent trying to find a good location would have been doubled in time travelling back leaving virtually no time to shoot. In the end I opted to shoot at the nearest possible location that that was passable in the knowledge that I'll be able to do a more considered shoot in a better location at some point in the future.
Personally I think the biggest issue is the light - with the car being black and the photo's taken around 3:30 in the afternoon it was very difficult to try and capture the cars undoubtedly imposing lines / appearance. The harsh light rather washed out the details.
With the first shot, there was an outhouse building to the right which would have compromised the composition for me. These shots were done very much "at the drop of a hat" and I think it show's, but nonetheless I'm still happy with one or two of the shots as well as having learned a little more than I knew before - so I'd have to consider it a success overall. I'd expect to do a "proper" shoot of the car sometime in the next 4-5 weeks so hopefully this'll prove just to be a warm up for the main event.
trackdemon said:
I'm still happy with one or two of the shots as well as having learned a little more than I knew before - so I'd have to consider it a success overall.
As I have said before on here, if your happy then thats all that really matters as long as they are your shots. If they are for a "Punter", then if they are happy then thats fine also. Paople can be really anal about pics sometimes.
Dave
dcw@pr said:
a grad would have helped these shots a lot
I don't see how - there doesn't seem to be any exposure problems between the car and the sky
I'agree with Poah...they would have helping bring the car and the sky closer together tonally, reducing the contrast between the two, thus making it easier to look at. IMHO.
Martin.
PS - you can do it in PS as well
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