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GetCarter

29,395 posts

280 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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Hmmm - I've tried the two best on-line printers and (although good - photobox being the best IMHO) the quality is nowhere near as good as my (albeit expensive) photo printer (I sell the prints framed for lots of dosh, so they need to be right).

To be fair, I haven't tried the cheaper photo printers, but the top of the range (read £450+) are blimmin' good these days... but yes, they suck ink.

Whiich-ever is best value, I like to be able to 'vet' and alter the output - and get it with a few minutes!

Steve

_dobbo_

14,384 posts

249 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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At the risk of sounding like an arse licker, if my photos were as good as yours Steve I suspect I would be firmly in the pro printer camp.

t0ny99

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1,238 posts

242 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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Having quized SWMBO a bit more, seems what she really wants is one of those dedicated photo printers for chucking out 6x4s of friends and family...

When the time comes, I'll stick with the HP and see what the results are like and perhaps try the online printers.

In the mean time, I shall keep searching for a camera!

Top of the list seems to be a 300D, they're coming in around the £400 mark...

>> Edited by t0ny99 on Friday 17th June 10:04

simpo two

85,504 posts

266 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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t0ny99 said:
What she really wants is one of those dedicated photo printers for chucking out 6x4s of friends and family... I'll stick with the HP and see what the results are like and perhaps try the online printers.

Good idea. I have the 970CXi (top model in 1998!) and whilst ink is expensive, it does a perfectly good job of photos. So plan 4 up on A4 and see what you think before wasting good camera/lens money on a largely surplus piece of kit that can't print any bigger than 6x4. Also check running costs and compare with Photobox etc.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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GetCarter said:
... the quality is nowhere near as good as my (albeit expensive) photo printer...
Out of interest Steve, what printer do you have?
t0ny99 said:
Top of the list seems to be a 300D, they're coming in around the £400 mark...
Good choice. See this thread for details of someone who got a 300D from the Canon outlet for £395 - could be worth a look.

t0ny99

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1,238 posts

242 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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LexSport said:

t0ny99 said:
Top of the list seems to be a 300D, they're coming in around the £400 mark...

Good choice. See this thread for details of someone who got a 300D from the Canon outlet for £395 - could be worth a look.


Cheers Darren - 'found' the Canon outlet on ebay, there are a few 300D listed daily, it seems. Big outlay next week (new central heating going in), so will likely wait until next month before I take the plunge!

Any Libra/RR progress?

imperialism2024

1,596 posts

257 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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t0ny99 said:
Having quized SWMBO a bit more, seems what she really wants is one of those dedicated photo printers for chucking out 6x4s of friends and family...


In that case I'd say it's even more ridiculous to have a photo printer... I mean, I can understand doing your own large format prints with an expensive printer... but photo labs will be much cheaper for 4x6's. Does she really need them that soon?

As for the 300D... Isn't the D70 getting down in price now that the D70s is out? At any rate, even if I were to get a Canon... I would stay away from the 300D and go with the 350D. I believe the success of the 300D was just due to there not being any other options in that range before the 350D came out. Also, around here it's about a $150 jump from the 300D to the 350D.

If you want a temporary fix to use as your DSLR until you can find one that you like better, then go with the 300D. But if you want something to use for a long time that isn't already obsolete, you should probably look at the 350D and D70(s).

GetCarter

29,395 posts

280 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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Lex

I use the Epson 2100 A3 7 ink jobbie. Think the R1800 has just replaced it.

t0ny99

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1,238 posts

242 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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imperialism2024 said:

As for the 300D... Isn't the D70 getting down in price now that the D70s is out? At any rate, even if I were to get a Canon... I would stay away from the 300D and go with the 350D. I believe the success of the 300D was just due to there not being any other options in that range before the 350D came out. Also, around here it's about a $150 jump from the 300D to the 350D.


Well, my searching to date suggests the 350D is about £200 premium over the 300D (which is another new radiator, in DIY terms - house must take priority at the mo'), so that's nearly $400!

imperialism2024

1,596 posts

257 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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t0ny99 said:

imperialism2024 said:

As for the 300D... Isn't the D70 getting down in price now that the D70s is out? At any rate, even if I were to get a Canon... I would stay away from the 300D and go with the 350D. I believe the success of the 300D was just due to there not being any other options in that range before the 350D came out. Also, around here it's about a $150 jump from the 300D to the 350D.



Well, my searching to date suggests the 350D is about £200 premium over the 300D (which is another new radiator, in DIY terms - house must take priority at the mo'), so that's nearly $400!


Hmm interesting...

How about the D70?

t0ny99

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1,238 posts

242 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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imperialism2024 said:

t0ny99 said:


imperialism2024 said:

As for the 300D... Isn't the D70 getting down in price now that the D70s is out? At any rate, even if I were to get a Canon... I would stay away from the 300D and go with the 350D. I believe the success of the 300D was just due to there not being any other options in that range before the 350D came out. Also, around here it's about a $150 jump from the 300D to the 350D.




Well, my searching to date suggests the 350D is about £200 premium over the 300D (which is another new radiator, in DIY terms - house must take priority at the mo'), so that's nearly $400!



Hmm interesting...

How about the D70?


Both Nikons seem to average about £75 more than their equivalent Canon.

imperialism2024

1,596 posts

257 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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Well, the D70s is merely a D70 with the updated firmware available for the D70, IIRC? At any rate, then the D70 may be worth considering over the 300D...

GetCarter

29,395 posts

280 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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t0ny99 said:
Both Nikons seem to average about £75 more than their equivalent Canon.


...says the Range Rover driver

(I know how you feel).

simpo two

85,504 posts

266 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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imperialism2024 said:
Well, the D70s is merely a D70 with the updated firmware available for the D70, IIRC?

The D70s also has a bigger LCD screen (but with same number of pixels as the original D70) and some cordless feature as well I believe. However the original is about £100 less, so better value IMHO.

Based on the time-honoured principle of 'you get what you pay for', spend as much as you can possibly justify. Have you actually had your paws on anything yet? How it feels to you and how logical the controls seem to you is very important.

t0ny99

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1,238 posts

242 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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Right then, spent most of yesterday playing with 350Ds in a variety of shops, and that's the one I'm going for (sod the budget, that's what interest free credit is for!). Shocked at how dismissive these places can be when you're talking about spending up to a thousand pounds (new kit for the missus as well...), with one notable exception where I was served by a young, polite, knowledgable, and extremely patient girl. Unfortunately her colleagues blew it completely when I went back later, and they will not be getting a penny...

All academic, the point is, we've also settled on an Ixus 50 for SWMBO (between Powershot 520, Mju mini and Ixus 40 or 50). Are there any issues with these cameras that we should know about - all the reviews we have read are positive, and it certainly feels like a quality piece of kit.

_dobbo_

14,384 posts

249 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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Sounds to me that the main problem you have tony is that it's got the wrong badge on the front. You need one that says "Nikon".

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

249 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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t0ny99 said:
Right then, spent most of yesterday playing with 350Ds in a variety of shops, and that's the one I'm going for (sod the budget, that's what interest free credit is for!). Shocked at how dismissive these places can be when you're talking about spending up to a thousand pounds (new kit for the missus as well...), with one notable exception where I was served by a young, polite, knowledgable, and extremely patient girl. Unfortunately her colleagues blew it completely when I went back later, and they will not be getting a penny...

All academic, the point is, we've also settled on an Ixus 50 for SWMBO (between Powershot 520, Mju mini and Ixus 40 or 50). Are there any issues with these cameras that we should know about - all the reviews we have read are positive, and it certainly feels like a quality piece of kit.


This IXUS 50 is an EXCELLENT little piece of kit - next on my list - I need a P&S as the DSLR is not convenient ofr EVERY occasion (bought one for my dad's birthday the other week).

The 350D is an incredibly competent camera which introduces you to the wonderful world of EOS - welcome to the Dark Sdie - you have selected well...

simpo two

85,504 posts

266 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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Bee_Jay said:
welcome to the Dark Sdie


Oh no, the '350D Owner's Sdie'...

406

3,636 posts

254 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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simpo two said:

Bee_Jay said:
welcome to the Dark Sdie



Oh no, the '350D Owner's Sdie'...


Oh Yes


t0ny99

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1,238 posts

242 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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Okay, tapped up my local (independent) camera shop re. the 350 (bought my Minolta from them several years ago, very pleasant to deal with).

We've worked up a couple of options for buying it, and the Ixus and printer, all together and so on.

Question is, I'm going to push for some odds and sods for the SLR (thrown in, or heavily discounted): specifically case, memory cards, UV filter. Is there anything else essential you'd recommend I get at this stage (we've got a package price on the body, 18-55 and 55-200) to maximise my potential discount.

Looks like I'll be joining the Dark Sdie any day now...