Tank People

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gopher

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260 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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I can often be found taking pictures of military vehicles but usually just close up detailed shots that do not benefit from having people around.

Yesterday I had the opportunity to take more pictures but in an effort to try and improve my photography skills thought that this time I would concentrate on the people with the vehicles as a backdrop.

This is the first time I have ever taken "people" shots so your thoughts and notes on how to improve would be appreciated. I know some shots would benefit from a bit of cropping but I'll show them as taken for now.



















Cheers

Paul

edited to add - can someone stick a dial-up warning on the title please? Ta


>> Edited by gopher on Sunday 3rd July 11:21

DJFish

5,922 posts

264 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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How many beautiful plants were killed making creating these shots?

FOR GOD'S SAKE THINK OF THE FERNS!
Cool pics BTW, is that Salisbury Plain?





>> Edited by DJFish on Sunday 3rd July 12:36

gopher

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Sunday 3rd July 2005
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DJFish said:
How many beautiful plants were killed making creating these shots?

FOR GOD'S SAKE THINK OF THE FERNS!
Cool pics BTW, is that Salisbury Plain?




LOL!

no not Salisbury - Castlemartin near Pembroke

rich 36

13,739 posts

267 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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Uuuuummm, I know its naturally a flattering colour, and it 'goes' with this 'old' outfit I found to wear, to wear, but does it make my bum look big ?


'what do you think, seriously, what, what..'

>> Edited by rich 36 on Sunday 3rd July 13:54

te51cle

2,342 posts

249 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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Some good, natural poses and expressions in there. A bit of judicious cropping to eliminate the bits of people on the edges of the frames would be a good idea. Though the plonker looking down the barrel of the machine gun will probably eliminate himself it you wait a bit !

As your subjects are often above you and have sky behind them the images are a bit under exposed. It's a bit of a challenge keeping a good exposure the subject while making sure the sky isn't burnt out. Some exposure compensation in-camera and/or some Photoshopping may be necessary.

V6GTO

11,579 posts

243 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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My son is waiting to go into the Tank Regiment at the moment, so these are very topical for me.
Apart from needing a bit of cropping and a little sharpen they're great.

Martin.

rich 36

13,739 posts

267 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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"I know its the haircut,
a bit bruce willis right!
do you think, a bit more moss, might bring it back around again! or some lichen, I know its very 90's"


Tankytank-tank-tank,tanky-tank-tank

gopher

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260 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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te51cle said:

As your subjects are often above you and have sky behind them the images are a bit under exposed. It's a bit of a challenge keeping a good exposure the subject while making sure the sky isn't burnt out. Some exposure compensation in-camera and/or some Photoshopping may be necessary.


Thanks, I think I know what you mean - If the sky had been less overcast and the sun brighter do you think this would have been an issue, or is it nothing to do with this?

Cheers

Paul

gopher

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Sunday 3rd July 2005
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V6GTO said:
My son is waiting to go into the Tank Regiment at the moment, so these are very topical for me.
Apart from needing a bit of cropping and a little sharpen they're great.

Martin.


Good luck to your son, I think he could have a very good time!

The sharpen bit, is that an option in something like PS or is that something I could do better with the actual shot? I have not RTFM as of yet!

Cheers

Paul

V6GTO

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243 months

Sunday 3rd July 2005
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gopher said:


The sharpen bit, is that an option in something like PS or is that something I could do better with the actual shot? I have not RTFM as of yet!

Cheers

Paul


Photoshop....Filter>Sharpen>Unsharp Mask. Start at about 125/2.5/0 and experiment from there. HTH

Martin.

gopher

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Sunday 3rd July 2005
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V6GTO said:

Photoshop....Filter>Sharpen>Unsharp Mask. Start at about 125/2.5/0 and experiment from there. HTH

Martin.


thought I'd give that a bash, what do you think?

this is the original



I upped the brightness by 20% and contrast by 10% - then did what you sggested with the sharpen. I do think the shot improves.



Thanks for the help, much appreciated

Bee_Jay

2,599 posts

249 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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Ah the 17/21st Lancers (as was) - the "Death or Glory" boys - brings back some memories.

Are you connected with them in some way?

gopher

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Monday 4th July 2005
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Bee_Jay said:

Are you connected with them in some way?


No just interested in all things military and knew that the open day was on

lake

486 posts

265 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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gopher said:




Is it just me or should that sign read "DANGER KEEP CLEAR OF BIG F&^K OFF GUN!!". Just seemed a bit strange, thats all

Lake

Davel

8,982 posts

259 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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Yeah - like the 'Keep clear of the door' sign.

FFS a bloody big gun on a tank coming at you like that and you have to worry about the door?

bigtone

1,211 posts

285 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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Great shots! Was it just an open day on the ranges, or for a particular reason?

Re signs, I had to chuckle at this one I took on saturday:



It was strapped to the side of HMS Illustrious...

gopher

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Monday 4th July 2005
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bigtone said:
Was it just an open day on the ranges, or for a particular reason?


It's their yearly open day - it's a bit of pot luck as to what you see when you go there - it depends on who is visiting the ranges at the time.

Cheers

Paul

te51cle

2,342 posts

249 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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gopher said:
If the sky had been less overcast and the sun brighter do you think this would have been an issue, or is it nothing to do with this?




If the sky had been clearer and the sun had been brighter then you'd have been in danger of getting even more contrasty results. You wouldn't have had the same flexibility in being able to move around your subject, as when the sun is out you'd be best off keeping it somewhere behind you. If your subjects then look at you, they'll be blinded by the sun and start squinting. Early morning and late afternoon are the best times for photography outdoors when the sun is less bright and it starts bringing out interesting details in your subjects.

You've got a good set of photos to start with there. Once you've got the hang of the brightness and contrast controls try using Levels. Try moving the middle (grey triangle) slider a little and see if that improves things. Then once you've got the hang of that try your hand at cutting out/masking and feathering so that you can apply different levels of each tool to different areas of the image. Plenty to keep you amused for an evening or two !

Here's a sample. I've adjusted the levels separately for the sky, the two soldiers' faces and the tank. Then upped the saturation a bit and sharpened. With a bit of practice you should be able to do better than this 5-minute job. (which for some reason won't show up as an image right now so here's the link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/te51cle/TankTop.jpg

>> Edited by te51cle on Monday 4th July 18:31

gopher

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Monday 4th July 2005
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te51cle said:

Lots of good stuff


Thanks for that, very handy and your PS work does make for a vast improvement.

Cheers again

Paul

bilko2

1,693 posts

233 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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CVRT Scimitar, i was a crewman on those for 6 years!
Brings back some memories.
Well done.